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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak Sweet car and a favorite for me. Around 1968 I bought a 1964 'cuda. It had a 273, 4 speed manual in Burgundy Red. I tricked it out for the street band it was a blast! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by The_Watcher I disagree. Posting CGC comics on here is fine. Please no "bad mouthing" them. Everyone of us collects what we love and this forum is about sharing everything we love with our fellow hobbyists. Our esteemed competition has been around for a long time. Heck, I was the original Primary Grader and restoration detection expert for them. I am still friends with some of the people there today, especially Mark Haspel, a true brother and one of the most knowledgeable & passionate people in our hobby. Now, when it comes to pgx, I have seen way too many shady things like easily missed restoration that can be seen through their holder, pages missing, wrong back cover married, fake sigs, etc. I do not want new collectors to think that that is "certification". Same goes with the so called "grading services" that buy and sell their own books. This is not to say that CGC or CBCS will not make mistakes, but those mistakes should be minimal. Both companies have made, and will make a few mistakes, but until you take the "human factor" out of the equation, there is no way to stop that. Every company, in any industry, makes mistakes. Certification is a safety net for collectors, the "good housekeeping seal of approval", if you will. Certification is also a way to help sellers to sell their books with the buyers confidence. A seller might pick up a large collection and they need to processes it to get it to market quickly, as they have paid a lot of money and, like any business, need to recoup their money to buy the next collection to offer to you. They might miss a small amount of writing on a page, might not have the best eye for restoration, can miss very light stains, not know a strange page count (13-16), and many other things. The good ones do the the best they can, but many rely on the experts in certification to help them process a collection quickly and as correctly as the certification company can. I love our hobby and want it to remain strong while bringing in new collectors. I have been doing this for the better part of my life because of my love for this incredible hobby and the friendships I have made in it. I was very lucky to have been taught the ethics of our hobby by friends like Bob Overstreet, James Payette, Jerry Weist, and many others. I want to pass those ethics along to everyone I can. End of rant. Thank you for reading this. As always, happy collecting! Peace, Steve |
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| comic book collecting is a fun hobby to be a part of. And its good to be here to see others passion for these funny books also | ||
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| Bravo Steve! Welcoming us to post pics from our collections that may include books graded by CGC speaks volumes. Not only for your passion of collecting, but also that you see the extreme benefit to our hobby by respecting one another for the quality services being provided. |
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| I agree with your reasoning Steve. I hope if I make a mistake and post a PGX label, your moderators just delete it and slap my wrist. I assume a pic of a PGX slabbed book, that does not show the label or any other thing that would indicate it is in a PGX slab, is okay. I made a mistake years ago and sent a bunch of books to PGX, and I will never do that again. I didn't find any mistakes on their part, with the grading of my books. But I have heard about and seen too many fails by them/him, to ever send them more books. Just as an aside. I also will never send any more books to be graded by CGC. But that is a personal issue and not reflective of their prowess doing what they do. My future submissions will be to CBCS. I am getting a submission ready right now. Be good to me, and I'll talk with Santa about you. Santa apparently likes me. He gives me comic books every Christmas. |
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| Are we allowed to post pictures of CGC or PGX graded books, if it is just to share them? Yes I disagree. Isn't this something you and the Mods should've already discussed? Posting CGC comics on here is fine. Please no "bad mouthing" them. Everyone of us collects what we love and this forum is about sharing everything we love with our fellow hobbyists. Our esteemed competition has been around for a long time. Heck, I was the original Primary Grader and restoration detection expert for them. I am still friends with some of the people there today, especially Mark Haspel, a true brother and one of the most knowledgeable & passionate people in our hobby. Now, when it comes to pgx, I have seen way too many shady things like easily missed restoration that can be seen through their holder, pages missing, wrong back cover married, fake sigs, etc. I do not want new collectors to think that that is "certification". Same goes with the so called "grading services" that buy and sell their own books. Could you explain this last part a little more? Who is currently doing this? This is not to say that CGC or CBCS will not make mistakes, but those mistakes should be minimal. Both companies have made, and will make a few mistakes, but until you take the "human factor" out of the equation, there is no way to stop that. Every company, in any industry, makes mistakes. Certification is a safety net for collectors, the "good housekeeping seal of approval", if you will. Certification is also a way to help sellers to sell their books with the buyers confidence. A seller might pick up a large collection and they need to processes it to get it to market quickly, as they have paid a lot of money and, like any business, need to recoup their money to buy the next collection to offer to you. They might miss a small amount of writing on a page, might not have the best eye for restoration, can miss very light stains, not know a strange page count (13-16), and many other things. The good ones do the the best they can, but many rely on the experts in certification to help them process a collection quickly and as correctly as the certification company can. So if CGC or CBCS make a mistake it's the "human factor", but if PGX makes a mistake they're shady? That's not how I feel personally but it's what I'm reading here. Seems a little hypocritical. I love our hobby and want it to remain strong while bringing in new collectors. I have been doing this for the better part of my life because of my love for this incredible hobby and the friendships I have made in it. I was very lucky to have been taught the ethics of our hobby by friends like Bob Overstreet, James Payette, Jerry Weist, and many others. I want to pass those ethics along to everyone I can.  |
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Hey gang, just letting you all know I'm here.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton 1) Not everyone has the breadth and depth of knowledge as you when it comes to the area of forum moderation.  2) Everyone knows that PGX purposefully perpetrates fraud. PGX is so crooked that when the company dies, it will have to be screwed into the ground. It's common knowledge. 3) He's is referring to honest mistakes. PGX puts books in erroneous holders with the intent to defraud. There's a difference. It could be analogous to asking legitimate question versus asking obtuse questions for the sake of trolling. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by greggy FU Manchu. Stay away from my hottie. |
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| It's alive! So far it's a nice and relaxed atmosphere, nice to see. As a car collector it is nice to see there are a couple of car guys here also, here is where my nickname came from: |
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Quote:Originally Posted by VintrageComics there goes the neighborhood |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Actually for # 2 I was referring to this: "Same goes with the so called "grading services" that buy and sell their own books." By using "Same goes..." after talking about PGX I thought he was referring to someone besides PGX. Either way, anyone can answer this question. Is anyone besides PGX currently (allegedly) slabbing their own books and selling them themselves? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by VintageComics And you are?  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Now that's a legitimate question, bravo!  I would also like to know. What other grading services are there? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by PovRow Complicated. |
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