Mislabeled Ultimate Fallout 4 as Facsimile17447
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| @power_struggle55 I agree, if grading comics was my job, it seems there'd be a simple checklist I follow after grading a book to make sure everything lines up. | ||
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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| Maybe the people making these errors were trained here. |
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| Wow... just wow... PDG |
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Poop happens, and everyone's poop stinks. It all results in the owner having to resend the slab if they want it fixed. I seriously doubt anyone here ever did so with great big bright heart-warming smiles on their face. For the record, I'm not against the informative intent of the thread. It's definitely something to look for. And I'll readily admit their poop is runnier these days. This is just a reminder that the same mistakes happen here, and perhaps for the same reasons. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Anyone care to disclose their observations of percentage of errors between the 2 based on their personal submissions? Everyone makes mistakes, but there's this concept called probabilities. I use both companies and it is not even close.... not even close from what I have obtained from both. I have been on the CBCS frustration/anger train for 3 weeks now; and they deserve it. But the probability and likelihood of a quality delivered product from CBCS is not one of the reasons |
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 No problem. I have been dealing with both companies for about 3 years now, and I can break down my returns to each one. Check it out. 2019: CGC returns: 1 (hair in capsule) CBCS returns: 0 2020: CGC returns: 2 (1 piece of plastic in capsule, 1 scratches to back of capsule) CBCS returns: 0 2021: CGC returns: 14 (13 cracked/damaged slabs, 1 label error) CBCS returns: 0 2022 (so far): CGC returns: 13 (1 fibres inside capsule, 1 inner capsule visibly bent, 5 scuffmarks on outer capsule, 6 label errors. And it's only April...) CBCS returns: 1 (1 cracked slab - I sent an email regarding this issue but have yet to hear back aside from auto-generated reply) The above single cracked slab constitutes my first and, so far, only return for CBCS. We'll see how things go on that and how much effort I need to put into getting it taken care of. For the record, it took FOUR MONTHS for me to get a response from CGC regarding the returns from 2021 & 2022. I finally received instructions to send all 27 (!!!) returns back about a week ago. It sucked. |
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| @Byrdibyrd How many CGC subs vs CBCS subs in that timeframe? | ||
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 I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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| before I knew of Facsmile. Thought I saw a copy of Ultimate Fallout #4 very cheap on ebay (ungraded). seller didnt say it was facsmile but marked it as 4th printing (or whatever it would be technically). I did research. Learned of facsmile knew....still collectable but not worth much. did eventually buy a copy of it (here actually). point is...Im not a professional. Im not paid to know the difference. people at cgc are. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy I can only give an approximate answer, but in that timeframe I have submitted around 1200+ books with around 700 going to CGC and around 500 going to CBCS. A lot of the difference is due to me starting out in 2019 with CGC, submitting well over a hundred books to them and only 19 to CBCS. So I have submitted more books total to CGC (CBCS will catch up - I'm sending them the lion's share now), but that still doesn't account for the ridiculous difference in the number of returns. Seriously, 700/500 does NOT mesh with 30/1. |
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| One thing I will say about all the returns I have had from CGC: The giant flood of returns didn't start until December of last year. Up until then, it was negligible - literally 1~2 returns per year, which is pretty good. Then came several submissions in a row with multiple cracked slabs in them, and it was all the same pattern: crack on the right side in the middle or on the left edge near the top left corner. Over a dozen books with the same damage pattern had to be poor materials or a bad change in procedure. Whatever was wrong got fixed because after December I never got another book with a cracked slab like that. The rest of my returns can be chalked up to newbie QC who don't have their acts together yet. I blame efforts to speed things up at CGC and deal with the massive logjam. I appreciate the intentions, but I can't say I approve of the execution. | ||
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| I've submitted somewhere between 50 to 75 books, and this is the 1st time I've gotten an error. | ||
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd Precisely. Probabilities & Likelihood - it is the answer to everytime someone says "everyone makes mistakes". |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bender3455 The first time I got a book I needed to return (hair inside a capsule) it came as a total surprise. I had submitted dozens of books and had no problem. That's part of the reason why I really do think a lot of these returns lately is down to the current huge influx of submissions and companies trying out ways to deal with them. Obviously, some ways are more successful than others. |
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Thank you sir. May I have another?
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| @Byrdibyrd Thanks. The numbers help put it in perspective, and are much easier to accept than "CGC sucks because CBCS doesn't." Especially when so - many - continue to send them books. Seems the best way for people to stop them from making mistakes on their books would be to stop letting them. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy My pleasure. It's a shame that CGC's efforts to handle all the submissions are not going well, but I also think that people need to know so they can make an informed decision on whether to continue submitting to them while all this is still happening. |
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd That makes perfect sense. That's why I posted the links- So lurkers/readers (who don't already know) are informed it isn't just CGC that can make a mistake on a book. I know many think I'm anti-CBCS. Far from it. I've purchased many CBCS slabs, I think the product is just fine, as I do with CGC's product. I want both companies to succeed, because ultimately WE win. So many posts make it sound like CGC, and only CGC WILL make an error on your order, which, od course, isn't true. If it were, there wouldn't be so many CGC customers on this forum happily showing off their returns. I think this forum would appear to have more class if the pro-CBCS talk outnumbered the anti-CGC talk. 2c |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy Not sure a comic book forum needs to worry about anyone's perception of it's level of class, but things might bother you less if you stopped taking the debates so personally. |
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy I don't ever see anyone say that. We all know the "both sides" argument. I just see a lot of people say CGC is constantly making errors. When CBCS constantly makes errors.. let's talk. Anyway, here's one someone showed off on the CGC forum..     |
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| I'd love to have a Marvel Spotlight #32 in 9.8, but not if it looks like that! Dang! | ||
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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| That's a Train.Wreck 10.0 | ||
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| So, I got the book back a few days ago. It literally had nothing changed. It was still labeled as a 9.6 Facsimile Edition. I called up CGC, and the very nice lady on the phone said that she could see why it was being resubmitted and that it's extremely unusual that it slipped through a 2nd time, especially as a "Mechanical Error" listing the specific problem. She said all I could do is submit again, but told me she was going to put a note on the book's information. I'm imaging it said something like "WTF guys??", lol. So, book is sent off AGAIN, and then we'll get it back and go from there. Still planning to sell, but I have friends telling me to wait until MCU debut of Miles. | ||
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 "Forum Overlord" bah ha ha ha...
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bender3455 Tee hee |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Bender3455 Oh, yeah. That sounds like my Strange Academy #1 Walmart edition that will be going back again because they can't seem to deal with the fact that it's a first print and not a second. This will be the THIRD TIME I've sent it back. |
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bender3455 Are any of these friends Economists? I think that will be like waiting for a lottery ticket to expire. Newsstand in particular is propelled by a bubble of extravagant spending. |
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| This. Excess savings from stimulus is mostly spent down. Excess net worth from excess speculation (meme stocks and general market) is coming down fast. The speculative part of the market (the books “north of trend”) is unwinding quickly. False scarcity is the meme stock equivalent for collectibles. Quote: Originally Posted by EbayMafia |
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Bender3455 I've seen this a number of times on YT. People getting their mech-error books back with no change... or worse errors. Looks on their faces is what it's all about. I selfishly support CGC's enjoyable, horrible QC. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Puckster Only thing I'd pay extra for is simple, obvious errors like this one. No interest in mislabels.  |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Sigur_Ros LOL!! That's excellent! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd Yeah, I would collect these if I bought graded books and ran across them. Most people get them fixed though. I think they're great. |
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