CBCS vs PSA Lawsuit21143
It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. | chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sagii Is 2rd (above) pronounced "turd"? |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC That's wasn't even supposed to be in this thread. I used that in a post to Ed. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. | GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson lol!! All good my friend!! 🤣 |
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. | HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC What a cotton-headed ninnymuggins |
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CBCS broke up with me over Facebook. | CFP_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Where would you go to procure a head grader? This isn’t a main stream business where there are graduate’s waiting in line to be hired. I remember when CBCS was looking to hire graders. The vast majority of applicants didn’t even come close to expectations. Hopefully cross training was going on behind closed doors. | ||
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Collector | Sagii private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by chester15I meant 3rd (and I know there's PGX and some other also rans, but I meant big league) but Kat had quoted me already so it was too late to change |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by CFP_Comics Probably the same place the cgc will go when it's time to replace Matt. Do you think West was grading and finalizing every book that was graded? Who took West's place when he was let go from the cgc? Maybe they will send an S.O.S. to Vancouver and hire greggy away from the Canadian government. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. | flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC If that's Maurice they're in good hands. Also, I'm not paying more for subgrades. I can use my own eyes for centering and avoid the dreaded arvel comics. If CBCS wins the lawsuit, what are they going to get? Sole rights to a terrible idea? |
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I like bean sprouts. | James42 private msg quote post Address this user | |
First, the filing seems pretty damning. Beckett seems to have some good evidence of wrongdoing, and there hasn't been discovery yet. It will be interesting to see what shakes out of this, and if PSA ends up having been involved. Quote: Originally Posted by HotKeyComics Not a graded card collector, but this makes very little sense to me. Four "10" subgrades is a "10". Okay, that tracks. But three "10" and any one "9.5" is also a "10"? My BA is in English, but even I can do simple averages. 39.5/4 = 9.875, and so on. Subgrades seem interesting conceptually as an expansion to grader's notes, but if there is no mathematical sense to relate the subgrade to the overall grade, it's just another way to separate fools from money. I would expect that certain categories would have more "weight" than others. Cover condition is likely to be "more important" than interior condition, for example. But it opens up a lot more room for people to complain. |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
And Lo, There Shall Be Complaining... | ||
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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.... and warranted | ||
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CBCS broke up with me over Facebook. | CFP_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Hopefully it is easier done than said. CGC had three graders who worked together for years with others under them. Hopefully CBCS had that in place in case of an emergency or someone deciding to suddenly leave. |
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. | Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@CFP_Comics Steve Borock trained several graders before his departure. If they paid attention, their grading department is just fine. | ||
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
I'm not understanding why people who don't even submit books to CBCS are so concerned about who is or isn't grading them. | ||
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. | HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatsonFOMO? |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. | GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I'm not so sure the complaints are warranted because as far as I know, the sub-grading is optional...One doesn't have to pay for it. I'm not a fan of sub-grades myself...I won't pay for the service. I would buy CBCS books that had the sub-grades....I won't pay a premium for the book that has it... but I think this service might be good for CBCS if it differentiates them from CGC....any edge CBCS can get on its competitors...especially CGC is good with me. |
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Collector | B3Chandler private msg quote post Address this user | |
Thought I would drop these in here for your viewing pleasure. and here we have a video response from Dave |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. | xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson They're staying in the loop for that day when CGC shoots a comic book in the middle of the street. Then they'll say that they don't think CBCS' graders are experienced enough and keep submitting to CGC. |
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I started watching the Comic Book Investment video and thought....why is this guy coming off so defensive right off the bat!? Had no idea he's the son of someone involved. I don't watch either of these guys regularly as they both irritate me...but I will say that when CBI starts talking about this history of his Dad in grading, it does shed a lot of light onto why he has such a hate (or maybe a chip in his shoulder) on for CBCS in some of the videos that I have watched in the past... |
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. | KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Paulbg2000 Yeah..at first I watched some of his vids years ago but I had to stop as I started to realize most of his 'analysis' even the whole premise was specious - that is to say things sounded good and maybe true but were actually wrong...trend analysis was interesting but trying to conflate comics and stocks just doesn't equate Have to laugh...he's another of the group that complains pretty regularly about CGC but...hey..what ya gonna do???? |
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How do I know this? Because I've done it myself. | lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@KatKomics @Paulbg2000 I didn't watch the entirety of either video, but a quick Google search shows that Paul Lesko was the chair of an IP division for a law firm at one point. You don't get to chair an IP division if you don't know IP law -- so that's a very quick strike against the CBI video when he tries to say that Lesko doesn't know what he's talking about and could just be a divorce attorney. All the YouTube stuff is just another example why every new client of mine gets a 3 page letter why they should not use any social media while they have an active case. One last thing -- I'm not an IP lawyer, but I also know that speculating about the merits of the case at the beginning is only good for someone who needs ratings or "clicks." |
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" . " | Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 I’ll add, the YT guy committed the same “sin” as that lawyer… not taking 30 seconds to diligence the basics. That lawyer may be sufficiently capable in his domain (no opinion from me) but he clearly didn’t prep for that video. The YT guy also didn’t take the 30 seconds needed to see the lawyer did indeed have a relevant background. Common mistake - sloppiness. Both videos were for self-aggrandizement but both were marketing at least some level of incompetence. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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New device for Brain surgery Thoracic aortic dissection repair tool Penicillin Designs for a bridge over 100 miles of ocean Sub-grades Flights to Uranus Ingredients to shitburgers Not sure which of these would sound frivolous to "copy" and sue, but I have a thought or two. |
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
You mean just like it was frivolous for the cgc to threaten CBCS with legal action over the use of a star symbol? | ||
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Every Star in this immense universe is unique | ||
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Apparently, I am easily annoyed. | Rbolton private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 So what exactly are all the ingredients in a shitburger? |
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Forum Crier | OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Rbolton All kinds of shit lol! |
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Collector | electricprune private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson There isn’t a grading company on the planet that could handle the influx of books they would get if that were to happen. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Rbolton If I told you the ingredients, and you took that information to another restaurant, I'd have to sue you for a million dollars for stealing my sub-grade idea .... woops... I mean ingredients. The idea of Sub-grades and the ingredients to shitburgers are highly classified and patented |
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