Signed Jack Kirby comic found! CBCS Worthy?1892
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| Hi All, Well, I was going through an old box of comics (circa 1990's) that I stashed away and totally forgot about - when I found a stack of assorted "Dynamic Forces" signed comics. I had NO IDEA this was in there.155 out of 750 .Pretty excited to see the KING signed it.(along with Dan Panosian.) Is this CBCS worthy to get slabbed? and Does CBCS include the COA in the slab? Please advise, Thanks. Ray ( I put a cheesy watermark on the coa!)wa   |
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| It would have to be submitted for Red Label verified signatures, since you could put that COA with any comic. Keep the COA and when the comic is returned, slip it into the mylar bag on the back side of the slab. There had been some talk about CBCS and problems with verifying Kirby's signature from a company (not sure if it was Dynamic Forces or not), but I think the last post said that there was no problem anymore. You might want to look for that thread. Anyway, great find! (Hey, we should get together soon and talk comics over a beer or two!) | ||
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| Nice find. I think it would be a very good red label candidate. | ||
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| I am fairly new here, so I could be way off base with this. But I believe I just recently read somewhere that they do not include COA's within the slab, as to the potential damage to the comic. If I can find where I read it, I will gladly post it here. | ||
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| CBCS FAQ https://www.cbcscomics.com/faq What types of comic books does CBCS certify? CBCS grades any and all mainstream comic books that will fit into our holder. Currently, we do not certify underground comics or comic magazines. Poly-bagged comics must be removed before they can be certified. Items such as detached 3-D glasses, poly-bags, certificates of authenticity and other loose materials that can damage a book will not be encapsulated with the comic. These items will be sent back to you at no extra charge. |
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| COAs are meaningless to a grading company. Don't send with the comic. Do what esaravo suggested. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo It was DF and here's the thread https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/1846/page/1/just-a-thought-maybe-a-stupid-one-at-that/. @Johnnylray I would submit it for red label and cross your fingers. Don't even bother including the COA because it will be ignored as far as the verification goes. |
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Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Awesome responses, Thank you everyone..Red label entry..fingers crossed. Thanks All! Will keep you posted! | ||
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KenWorthing private msg quote post Address this user | |
| .. and the awesome thing about CBCS, is that if the customer doesn't realize that there's a sig in one of their books .. it has been known for CBCS to notify them about that (rather than another company either missing it or just slabbing the book as Universal). How cool is that? |
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| @KenWorthing That is cool. The best inside sigs that I discovered were by Mike Grell in Starslayer 1 and 2. Those were also the first 2 appearances of Rocketeer done by Dave Stevens. Real high grade too. It would have been nice if Dave Stevens had signed them too. Maybe I better take a closer look. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KenWorthing |
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1243782365 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego I contacted CBCS and they said this is not true. |
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Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @jimmylinguini What isn't true? the kirby done by wife fakes or COA is ignored? thanks. Ray | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Johnnylray CBCS said that the rejecting the dynamic forces signed jack kirby books because they weren't signed by Kirby was untrue. But also CBCS doesn't care about COAs. |
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| @jimmylinguini Thanks! | ||
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| I have seen that same fat marker Kirby sig before on a Marvel X-Men 1 Milestone a few times and had my doubts. I recently ran across a youtube vid of some Canadian guys who did some research on that X-Men and found that CBCS will not verify that Jack Kirby signature. I still have not seen a "Red Label" CBCS Kirby sig with that front cover, fat marker from the Dynamic Forces crew. Interested if there's one out there. |
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| Question for CBCS- I am getting ready to submit my comic for the red label. so - my question is this: if the sig/s come back NOT verified, do I still get charged the full price? and book returned(not slabbed as per request)? Thank you. | ||
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| @johnnylray...hey brother...hows your day going? Anyway...I went through this 2 years ago with a dynamic F. signature. CBCS rejected the sig even though it was still sealed with COA and I'd had for 10 years. They charged for the Verification and shipped the book back unslabbed per my request.it's a bummer, but they put the work in so they need to charge. Now, if its a triple sig and the first is rejected, I hope they wouldn't charge the additional fees for the other sigs. I did reach out to DF that day and they responded that they would be reaching out to CBCS ...I'm not sure if that initiated any of this drama over the last couple years regarding CBCS/DF...but it is what it is and all's good . |
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Watcher private msg quote post Address this user | |
My sig is different every time I sign my child support check  ...I accept these artists can't always be verified...Just have to sell it raw for less |
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@Watcher there is an edit button  |
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| LOL....I need it for my life |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Johnnylray You will not be charged for the grading; however you will still pay the VSP cost ($25 first sig, $15 second sig). And yes, they will send the book back in a plastic sleeve with a sticker that says it failed verification. You can also request it to be graded anyways but if it fails verification, you will take a hit on the grade for "writing on cover" and of course the signature will not be mentioned on the label in that case. |
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| @RyanHicks Thanks! | ||
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Here is my Jack Kirby find. Also, REMEMBER THIS, if you have a signature inside the comic, take a picture of it prior to grading. It will make a nice addition to the comic book and you'll kick yourself if you forget  |
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Here's mine.    |
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| Considering @OGJackster 's picture on the label and advice to take a pic, and some people's preference to get sigs inside some books (including myself on some covers), could one potentially have the picture of the inside sig added to the label? Verified or witnessed or both? | ||
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @shrewbeer - Many of us on these forums have been requesting that CBCS either include an image of an interior autograph on the label (the back of the label would be fine), or include an image of it with the free grader's notes. I'm sitting on three Miller signed DD's that he signed on the bottom of the first page back before he was famous and charging $100-150 per. Back then, he even spelled out his name, instead of his now "F- M-" scribble. | ||
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
Damn. It looked like @OGJackster had somehow gotten his pic inside slab  |
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Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm on the fence with all this DF concerns..I may just keep the book , not slabbed, and pass it down to my kids.let them worry about real vs fake. and save myself $47 plus bucks. kind of bums me out that even though it was a limited, it could be fake. and I have a stack of DF books from 91-94 that Have COAs'. Ray/RI | ||
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