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my order (21-2E12ECB) went from Heat Seal to Grading, this does not make sense to me...

yep. me too. But don't ask. That question is insignificant compared to some more serious issues that have been happening recently. It has happened to several other folks here too. I know it has happened to @Scifinator more than once.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
@1976jfperez - Confirmed, as @Nearmint67 mentioned, I have seen that happen to many of my orders in the past year. And, yet, those orders have come in well under the current estimated TAT's, which leads me to believe that those TAT's may be accurate for submissions from the late 1st qtr and 2nd qtr of 2022.
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
cgc is now working on orders middle of may


while i still wait from cbcs for a first order from january

are they ever going to grade books from this year without paying a fast pass charge for
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are they ever going to grade books from this year without paying a fast pass charge for

Um....yes, but you are aware of all the people on this thread still waiting for orders from last august/September, right? Do the math, mate. Your Jan submission still has a loooong wait.
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
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are they ever going to grade books from this year without paying a fast pass charge for

Um....yes, but you are aware of all the people on this thread still waiting for orders from last august/September, right? Do the math, mate. Your Jan submission still has a loooong wait.


they told me cbcs the tats are 140 days
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
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they told me cbcs the tats are 140 days


I generally believe 2% of what I hear/am told; and 50% of what I see.
I think those numbers are even less when it comes to this stuff.

I learned the hard way in April when it all fell to the birds
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are they ever going to grade books from this year without paying a fast pass charge for

Um....yes, but you are aware of all the people on this thread still waiting for orders from last august/September, right? Do the math, mate. Your Jan submission still has a loooong wait.


they told me cbcs the tats are 140 days


Just entering the 10th month for my first order and hasn't entered grading yet. No press, no nothing just grading.
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
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are they ever going to grade books from this year without paying a fast pass charge for

Um....yes, but you are aware of all the people on this thread still waiting for orders from last august/September, right? Do the math, mate. Your Jan submission still has a loooong wait.


they told me cbcs the tats are 140 days


Just entering the 10th month for my first order and hasn't entered grading yet. No press, no nothing just grading.


this make no sense at all the slowdown
my last orders were nothing like this

ever since they changed the new tiers it all got messed up and tossed aside.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
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ever since they changed the new tiers it all got messed up and tossed aside.


For those of us that sometimes forget; but incredibly important when dealing with businesses or people: Actions speak louder than words. So simple of a saying; yet so vital.

For CBCS their actions in the last few months are as follows:
1. Successful increase of Express costs from $40 to $60
2. Successful TAT of 14 days when utilizing Express or money back

What has been problematic but is unresolved (have words that it's being worked on):
3. Reduction of Standard submission TAT
4. Customer Service revitalization effort

1 & 2 hit their immediate bottom line - so completed.
3 & 4 may lose a few customers; I dunno - so not completed but alot of words that its coming.

So I ask - what is important to them?
The results of the completed actions tell the story.
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this make no sense at all the slowdown
my last orders were nothing like this

ever since they changed the new tiers it all got messed up and tossed aside.


I'm not saying you can't be irritated about being provided incorrect information. I'm just not sure why you're asking about January orders when 5 minutes of reading would give you your answer. Indicates you're just posting to complain.

These long TATs preceded the tier changes by over 12 months. Tier change is not the "reason" for insanely long TATs and continued inaccurate statements related to TATs. The express tier at $40, though, certainly didn't do anything to help bring the TATs down; hence the increase to $60.

I had a submission at Orlando megacon that was slab only/art submissions; hasn't even entered the system yet. At 31 work days (just over 6 weeks) since the Wednesday after con.
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Collector Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
September 12th 2021' received at CBCS. 30 moderns. Grade only. No press, no signature verifications.
Went to grading a little over a month ago. Sat there for 3 weeks. Went to heat seal 2 weeks ago. Then last week back to grading. Books are probably in labels and or encapsulation. Hoping they ship before the end of August. They are on the way...
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Today is my anniversary! 1 year ago today my books started their journey. I’m no closer to having them back than the day they received them, can’t get anyone to answer a phone call and only email I’ve gotten was that they were processing.
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I blame the forum gremlins. figment private msg quote post Address this user
"Vintage" (Pre-1975) Orders from September 2021

CBCS Expanded

1) Delivered 8/10/21, Entered 10/15/21, Grading 2/18/22, Labels 3/1/22, Complete 5/6/22 (268 total days)
2) Delivered 9/07/21, Entered 11/04/21, Grading 5/19/22, Labels 6/4/22, Complete 6/15/22 (281 total days)
3) Delivered 9/07/21, Entered 11/04/21, Grading 5/19/22, Labels 6/4/22, Complete 6/24/22 (290 total days)
4) Delivered 9/08/21, Entered 11/08/21, Grading 6/03/22, Labels 6/8/22
5) Delivered 9/17/21, Entered 11/12/21, Grading 5/19/22, Labels 6/18/22, Complete 6/20/22 (276 total days)
6) Delivered 9/20/21, Entered 11/11/21, Grading 7/06/22

A little out of order, we'll see how the rest of it goes. It is worth noting that submission size does seem to have an effect, with larger submissions taking longer than smaller ones.


CGC Economy

1) Delivered 9/09/21, Entered 9/14/21
2) Delivered 9/24/21, Entered 10/21/21
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3 books submitted. 2 for Sig verification and one standard slabbing. Sitting at received since October '21
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Received my submission at the end of last week. Originally submitted at KC comicon Aug 20, 2021. Received July 2 2022. 315 days or 10 months & 11 days. No pressing no pre-screen etc. Just grade & slab on various tiers.

Anyone know what a * behind a grade means?
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I blame the forum gremlins. figment private msg quote post Address this user
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Anyone know what a * behind a grade means?


What The * Means
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
@Jsmead1 it's a checkmark https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/14434/page/1/what-does-the-check-mean-over-a-grade/
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
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this make no sense at all the slowdown
my last orders were nothing like this

ever since they changed the new tiers it all got messed up and tossed aside.


I'm not saying you can't be irritated about being provided incorrect information. I'm just not sure why you're asking about January orders when 5 minutes of reading would give you your answer. Indicates you're just posting to complain.

These long TATs preceded the tier changes by over 12 months. Tier change is not the "reason" for insanely long TATs and continued inaccurate statements related to TATs. The express tier at $40, though, certainly didn't do anything to help bring the TATs down; hence the increase to $60.

I had a submission at Orlando megacon that was slab only/art submissions; hasn't even entered the system yet. At 31 work days (just over 6 weeks) since the Wednesday after con.


CBCS is not doing right by the customers
i had comics back faster the last 2 orders of about 140 tats
i saw the current new tiers enter and all of a sudden it all changed
they stopped working on old orders and pushed them aside
its obvious

so in essence people will wait well over 1 year plus never to get orders back
on cbcs main page they never stated tats like this
if they did i would never had sent in anything
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Anyone know what a * behind a grade means?


What The * Means


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@Jsmead1 it's a checkmark https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/14434/page/1/what-does-the-check-mean-over-a-grade/


Thank you both!!
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@beastboy1980 I am waiting on an invoice of books from June 2021. At the time the TAT for standing pressing and grading was I believe six months combined. I am now approaching thirteen months and yes, like others have mentioned, I too watch my invoice move from Heat Seal back to Grading and then Received to Pressing and then back to Grading again where they currently are showing their status as.
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@beastboy1980 I am waiting on an invoice of books from June 2021. At the time the TAT for standing pressing and grading was I believe six months combined. I am now approaching thirteen months and yes, like others have mentioned, I too watch my invoice move from Heat Seal back to Grading and then Received to Pressing and then back to Grading again where they currently are showing their status as.


this is utter nonsense

i understand the tats are subject to change but nothing like this.

so in essence you can wait almost over 1 year and nothing.

this is bull

if they would have changed there tats like CGC does to current levels people would have expressed them or cut the order down
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
whats ironic is how is it possible CGC is getting new orders not expressed back and the other compnay that start with a P and ends with a X gets new orders back in same year but the second biggest grading company cant.

cbcs needs to address this issue
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
and what makes no sense is this.
you can pay a membership and it still takes the same amount of time to get comics back as a non memeber.
and you dont save that much if you consider you cant get any comics back without expressing them in the same year.

cbcs is basically telling all the new orders placed.

if you dont pay extra for express we wont grade your orders this year.

they dont want any new basic modern orders
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TAT should be something all the companies should strive to beat. CBCS feels the TAT is something to be delayed and pushed back unless you pay to express it. It is too bad this is the new business model.
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
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TAT should be something all the companies should strive to beat. CBCS feels the TAT is something to be delayed and pushed back unless you pay to express it. It is too bad this is the new business model.


i agree
funny cgc and the other company that starts with a P and ends with a X
i got all my orders back i sent in this year non expressed

but cbcs cant get orders back from last september

thats a joke
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
and how can we sell comics and send in orders if they cant complete orders in any kind of timely fashion.

why create a new grading express tier this year if you cant finish the work you have in house already.

if you can stay on top of express tiers in a timely manner then you should be able to grade moderns same way.

funny the other companys get orders back and guess what i can sell them to send in more orders.

i want to give cbcs more orders but dont trust how they work inside the place at all.
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@beastboy1980 I feel the same. I sent in sept to cbcs, in october i sent to cgc, i have 3 consecutive ones back from cgc in the same time i got mine back from cbcs. And i firmly believe the only reason i got my cbcs ones back was because of 3 months of emails and phone calls letting them know how upset i was and finally asking for my books back. Then they were finished.
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Well figured everyone else is posting there order status..lol


Order made and sent in Sept 7th 2021..

Received by CBCS receiving Dept Nov 9 2021..
Email sent that they are in grading room May 13,2022..

Nothing since then.
This was 15 moderns book with no pressing, Just grading and 2 books need signature verification.
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
i just got off phone and they told me regular moderns are 32 weeks
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user
so to me thats 160 days

but why does there website say 224 days
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