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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater Good thing most audiences disagree. |
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| And yet Captain Marvel made more money at the box office than the train wreck of a movie Man of Steel, more money than Justice League, and more money than Batman vs Superman which had the 2 biggest DCU superheroes squaring off in it. World Box Office Captain Marvel - $ 1.128 billion Man of Steel - $ 668 million B v S - $ 873.6 million Justice Legue - $ 657.9 million Hmmm, looks like people were voting with their wallets. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrusI am trying to understand your comment and meaning here...could you further expand and what you have said or explain what a mary sue, is and how it differs from Scarlet witch? I am not disagreeing nor debating your point, I wish to understand it better. |
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| So I keep seeing this comment about things being shoved down people's throats, such as: "I don't want ethnic diversity shoved down my throat." "I don't want women's empowerment shoved down my throat." "I don't want LGBTQ awareness shoved down my throat." However, have you stopped to think about the fact that those above groups have had to deal with years (decades, centuries even) of white, male, heterosexual shoved down their throat? And in many cases they didn't even have the freedom to complain about it (like some of you are) without sometimes getting physically hurt or killed. So the entertainment industry trying to bring some balance to the roles and more accurately reflect their audiences, although sometimes clunky, should be given a little slack. |
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| If anyone prefers a trip down memory lane on the Captain Marvel discussion, instead of rehashing it here, here are a few threads from when it came out https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/8501/page/1/captain-marvel-controversy/ https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/9141/page/1/in-extended-clip-captain-marvel-is-revealed-to-be-a-villain/ (another thread started by Gana from an opinion site) https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/8541/page/1/captain-marvel---with-spoilers/ (from after the movie actually came out) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater Nope. You're attempting to compare one franchise's first 1-5 movies to another franchise's 20th. You must pay prior to watching a movie; Not after. After seeing the movies, according to the #1 aggregate site: Captain Marvel: Below 50% approval. Man of Steel: 75% approval. BvS: Above 60% approval. ZSJL: Above 90% approval. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town A Mary Sue is typically someone who is good at everything without explanation or flaw. Rey being able to pilot the Millennium Falcon, and Danvers' random ability to fly, for example. I think it's fair to say that Scarlet Witch (I'm not limiting that term to her appearances in WandaVision) has experienced troubles and developments with her powers. |
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| @theCapraAegagrus are you really using the audience ratings from rottentomatoes just a few posts after it was pointed out that the movie was review bombed before it came out? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk The "review bombs" were removed, just as they were for The Suicide Squad (and Solo, IIRC). |
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| On that note. I haven't looked at reviews or whatever, but I really liked the new Suicide Squad. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Nope, I'm comparing the crappy Synder movies that starred the most powerful male superhero that transcends the comic industry to a female superhero that most people who weren't "fanboys" had never heard of before the movie came out. She kicked his ass at the world wide box office. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus From before release, but not after. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Do you mean with her being an experienced pilot, or with her using her own powers and flying into walls the first few times? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk They've been removing reviews that they consider "irrelevant" for awhile. Both prior to and post-release. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater Box office is irrelevant when most people would rather watch any of the 3 great films directed by Snyder. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk The first time she flew with her powers was when she was falling into the ground... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus Looks like you ran out of "but...but...but replies. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater No need to troll. You can move along after being wrong.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus The box office shows that world wide audiences would rather watch and sit through a movie about a female character that most knew nothing about and you say had poor reviews, than movies that starred a white male superhero that most people are familiar with that launched the DCU. Sure, dude - you win. Those Synder movies are the best. ROFLMAO! |
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| To say the box office is irrelevant is just completely false. It’s a fair metric as to how movies have succeeded or failed in addition to looking at reviews. You saying the Snyder movies are better is your opinion but not everyone. My wife loved captain marvel and dislikes all the Snyder movies. The trope of learning how to use powers in the face of danger has been around for a long time before captain marvel. Captain America uses Thor’s hammer without any training and summons lightening with it but no one has a problem with that |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater Not really. The box office is a result of marketing. Aggregate sites exist to provide the public with an idea of how re-watchable a film is. Home media sales are also a much more accurate telling of how many people would rather re-watch This vs That. It's fine if you like CM more, but most people don't. Not sure why you try to drag DC through the mud on a post that has nothing to do with them. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrusThanks for taking the time, I did not understand initially |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus The first time she successfully flew was when she was falling. Before there she whips herself into walls with her powers quite a bit. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus The thread touches on Superman and what is going on in DC in post 14. Chatting about all the different characters in each universe is on the table. I'm surprised that Bat's cowl being donned by Tim Fox hasn't been brought up. Personally, I'm all for it. Just like I'm for Miles being Spider-Man. Neither of those characters have the weight of decades of canon on them. Their futures, and much of their past hasn't been touched upon. They are fresh unlike Bruce and Peter. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk She uses Photon Rays in battle. She doesn't even try to fly until that moment, which she immediately masters, and is part of the Mary Sue criticism. The power dampener was a really bad plot device. It was a bad plot device in Thor: Ragnarok, too. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Slesko It's irrelevant when discussing how re-watchable a movie is. If you re-read my posts, I'm conveying that "most" people agree that they're better, not everyone. Odin explained how Mjolnir works in the first Thor movie. We saw Captain America develop as a character through 6 movies, and it was teased that he was worthy in Age of Ultron. How are these 2 situations remotely similar? |
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| Using the internet to determine what "most people" prefer when it comes to one movie over another is pretty debatable, I'd say. Not saying you're wrong -- it's very possible that more people like something like Man of Steel over Captain Marvel. But these movies are distributed globally, and while I can agree that box office receipts alone don't mean the movie is quality, it definitely is an indicator that a lot of people around the world saw the movie and liked it. You don't get to a billion dollars just because everyone sees it on the first weekend. Anyway, for the folks who haven't seen it yet, I thought James Gunn's The Suicide Squad was fantastic. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 What about home media sales? I think that the amount of people interested in owning a copy is a good indicator of how much people want to re-watch it. Especially over the past 15 years when DVD/Blu-ray/Digital prices haven't really changed. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xvipah Hell yeah! Tangible assets are king. |
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