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Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy In my house the Chef cooks the food. The Butler serves it, the maid cleans up and the Dishwasher does the dishes. The Driver takes everyone home and picks up the Escorts on the way back. Is good life. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town I know the origins and also the modern adopted and then partially co-opted usage. Like I said, it is not an externally applied term but was instead adopted (or adapted, if you prefer). Nothing I said was inaccurate - not in the slightest. |
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| I enjoy cooking and do the majority of it. I also do all the heavy physical labor and probably a disproportionate amount of the cleaning too. My wife changes the diapers 90% of the time. With two kids in diapers I may even have the winning end of the deal. |
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| I reject the idea that using any term in a scornful or even derisive way is "hate speech". I've heard this now about the terms "woke" and "SJW" and I just fundamentally disagree. Even "Preppie", "Jock", "evangelical", "Karen" and "braniac" do not qualify as hate speech in my opinion. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics I have a friend in Vancouver who works for Revenue Canada. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash I used it when I unexpectedly became a Special Ed. assistant. |
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| I’ll play. I take out the trash. It’s an uneven split on the dishes, wife does 99.9% of cooking and cleaning. My wife does the majority of child related duties since I work 11-12 hr days and am usually home in time to say goodnight to our 4 yr old. I take care of the manly macho things like household related repairs, picking up heavy things and putting them down, yard work, and putting all stuff together she buys online. Oh she works full time too and happens to be home more to do all things after coming home from doing all things at work. Bless her heart… I mean “equal rights!” |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Today is the last day that I'm using words. They've gone out, lost their meaning. Don't function anymore. Words are useless, especially sentences. They don't stand for anything. How could they explain how I feel? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatsonpancakes. Side bar; do you happen to know a Donald Priour Jr.? Quantum Mechanics professor with a big brainium. |
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@DrWatson Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson I can explain how you feel. You feel like a freaking virgin. Woke for the very first time. I can appreciate the inclusion, but when they jam the inclusion down my throat til I vomit, then I’m just gonna turn it off like Batwoman. Saw the trailer once and never bothered with the whole series. Stopped watching Supergirl after season 3. Cringed through watching Captain Marvel and was praying for a certain Southern Belle to come and take her powers away so we dont ever get another sequel. |
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| I've seen Captain Marvel movie mentioned several times in this thread. I really liked it, watched it twice. Loved the opening off-world Kree and Skrull scenes, loved the retro 80's timeline. What's the issue people have with it? | ||
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia https://www.metacritic.com/movie/captain-marvel/user-reviews?dist=negative I barely remember it and these reviews aren't helping much. The one thing I recall was that the villains didn't look like aliens, only humans in bad costumes. Larson's personal opinions definitely didn't have anything to do with my dislike of the film. I didn't care about them then and I don't care about them now. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 "Men sexist." It wasn't done well. It doesn't really affect the story too much, but it doesn't aid it, either. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia They're simply shorthand descriptive words/phrases. This is how the reductionist works: 1. Get offended. 2. Call it hate speech. 3. Claim authority on what is "hate speech". 4. Censor. It's not a progressive interaction. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Mediocre-at-best for almost everyone I know. Uninspired acting, cookie-cutter story, undeveloped main character, etc. Fury and Talos were the highlights. Expectations that the Infinity War post-credits scene built did not help the movie. Other characters stealing your show is a big letdown for such hype. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus The problem is that there are three basic groups that talk about CM. First group is the angry incel group who just hate what Brie said and that Marvel had a woman as powerful, lead character. They tend to think CM was “stolen” from a man. Group 2 loves it for all the reasons group 1 hates it. Group 3 tries to look at it critically and cut through the noise to give an objective review. Some people from the first 2 groups try to pretend they are actually in group 3 which makes things interesting. To your point, CM felt like a ham fisted retcon to include a character that they either wanted or needed to paint themselves out of the Thanos corner they got into. I think that’s what hurts it. You have an Uber powerful hero and you just kind of forget about her for 25 years? That alone creates a pretty big hill to climb for any movie. |
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia I posted it earlier: Nick Fury does dishes. I mean, what kind of movie does that? To actually answer your question a bit, Captain Marvel was brought up because it's the woman equivalent to the minority discussion the thread is about. They made a movie with a strong (some have said overpowered) female lead whose main character traits are stubbornness and perseverance, and some guys were upset about that. The story of perseverance, true both to the comics and real life, involves some interpersonal and systemic sexism to be overcome: she only gets her powers because women are disallowed from combat missions so she flies for scientific studies, her superior in the Kree army constantly tries to limit her and keep her from reaching her full powers then gaslights her at the end by saying it was a test, and so on. Many of those same people were upset because of Brie Larson as a person; you have never seen the word "triggered" embodied so well than by cosmicnews when they have any reason to write about Brie. So the movie was one of those that gets slammed with negative fan reviews before it even comes out; rottentomatoes changed their audience review system in part because of it (along with Black Panther, the second Star Wars, and a few other recent movies), and actually had to turn off comments on Captain Marvel before it was released. A faction of people were ready to look for any perceived or actual 'slight' toward men and hated the movie whether they saw it or not. The sentiment carries through Captain Marvel's appearances in other movies, such as one forum member's favorite part of Endgame being when Thanos hits her. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk It doesn't really matter that she's "OP", but it does matter that she's a Mary Sue, like Rey. Superman is OP, but it doesn't matter because he has character/power development (same with Scarlet Witch). |
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In general I liked Captain Marvel. But, Brie Larson is just not a very good actor. So the acting just wasn't that great for the main character. But the messages around it never bothered me. I go to Marvel movies to see people get punched, I try not to worry about the rest too much.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia As others have stated, a lot of the hate was focused on and toward Brie Larson. I had liked her in other movies, but thought she was just average in this one. The movie was OK and better than many other MCU films. I did like the retro 80's timeline as well. |
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| I agree w @Lonestar and others that Capt Marvel was fine. Sometimes, fine is okay - not everything has to be the best ever or a steaming pile of garbage. As for the people who repeatedly 1-star a movie before it comes out, I am jealous of the abundance of time on your hands, but question your use of it. | ||
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| I saw Captain Marvel about 2 months ago. It was superior to any of the crappy Superman movies that Synder made us sit through. It certainly was much better than the first Suicide Squad movie or Birds of Prey. (I can't say if it was better than the 2nd Suicide film as I haven't seen it). |
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| For a film to be labeled as superior to any of the recent DC film offerings is faint praise at best. From what I have seen of Brie Larson's acting in the MCU, Pinocchio is less wooden. |
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| For anyone to gloss over the fact that my post stated any of the Synder Superman movies is misdirection. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater Good thing most audiences disagree. |
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| And yet Captain Marvel made more money at the box office than the train wreck of a movie Man of Steel, more money than Justice League, and more money than Batman vs Superman which had the 2 biggest DCU superheroes squaring off in it. World Box Office Captain Marvel - $ 1.128 billion Man of Steel - $ 668 million B v S - $ 873.6 million Justice Legue - $ 657.9 million Hmmm, looks like people were voting with their wallets. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrusI am trying to understand your comment and meaning here...could you further expand and what you have said or explain what a mary sue, is and how it differs from Scarlet witch? I am not disagreeing nor debating your point, I wish to understand it better. |
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| So I keep seeing this comment about things being shoved down people's throats, such as: "I don't want ethnic diversity shoved down my throat." "I don't want women's empowerment shoved down my throat." "I don't want LGBTQ awareness shoved down my throat." However, have you stopped to think about the fact that those above groups have had to deal with years (decades, centuries even) of white, male, heterosexual shoved down their throat? And in many cases they didn't even have the freedom to complain about it (like some of you are) without sometimes getting physically hurt or killed. So the entertainment industry trying to bring some balance to the roles and more accurately reflect their audiences, although sometimes clunky, should be given a little slack. |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| If anyone prefers a trip down memory lane on the Captain Marvel discussion, instead of rehashing it here, here are a few threads from when it came out https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/8501/page/1/captain-marvel-controversy/ https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/9141/page/1/in-extended-clip-captain-marvel-is-revealed-to-be-a-villain/ (another thread started by Gana from an opinion site) https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/8541/page/1/captain-marvel---with-spoilers/ (from after the movie actually came out) |
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