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| At the end of the day, money talks. While I believe CBCS is superior in most ways, I'm not blind to CGC commanding more money on equally graded books. People that don't see the financial difference between the two in my view are blinded by their loyalty. Nobody should be that devoted to anything. When you devote so much time and effort into something, it almost consumes you like a cult. In my opinion, you have to see and acknowledge the faults even in the things you love to really appreciate something. |
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| We like people for their quality love them for their defects....@bronte that last part hit pretty hard not just in our discussion but in life also. | ||
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| This will most likely grow the hobby in big ways and at the same time stomp a Godzilla sized foot on pgx.. | ||
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| Unfortunately, what you guys are seeing are the effects of inflation in the U.S. So much money was printed and given out freely in the last year that the price of everything must go up to adjust. You'll see things at the supermarket, retailers, etc. adjust as well. CBCS will raise their prices too, they must, the dollar is worth less than before. |
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| PGX has been around awhile, its kinda like a cockroach after a nuclear winter. It's always going to be around. If CBCS plays its cards right, I can see it growing, but to be honest, the one thing I see as an observer, is that the communication needs to be a tad better. If they do get an influx of business due to this, I hope they at least hire a few real customer service folks. Especially some folks to help out Canada folks..... |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus@theCapraAegagrus - I have 1,400 CBCS certified comic up for sale. Sadly, I guess I don't have what you want.  On the other hand, I have about 1,000 that are part of my permanent collection and hopefully those won't be sold for at least another 50 years, so i definitely see your point.  |
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Comicninja0215@Comicninja0215 - |
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| @Bronte They should really just build a Canadian facility to where they can grade and press there to get folks their books faster. | ||
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| @Bronte - I was thinking cockroach too (great minds...)! But it's like fast food, not much in nutritional value or quality, but it's quick and cheap. There will always be a market for faster and cheaper. | ||
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| I was thinking in the grand scheme of things they ere the K-mart to Wal-Mart and target..lol oh that pesky PGX | ||
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Quote: Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus I think this is the problem in a nutshell. The received wisdom is that CBCS books don't sell for as much but are high-quality. So people go to CGC for grading, maybe in general but certainly for sale, and if they send to CBCS they tend to keep them. There's a pretty easy fix: don't sell your CBCS books for less than the book is worth, and be willing to pay full market for CBCS books when you see them. And don't send your raw books to CGC unless you honestly think they're better. |
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| @esaravo I like your analogy as well. Very apt description. |
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| @xkonk Already made that mistake.....lesson learned. | ||
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| @Joosh When did you submit to them?? and did you fast track or included pressing in your order? | ||
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| @xkonk I respectfully disagree. It's not an easy fix. For example, I am on a severely fixed income. I have to do what I can to make ends meet. I cant take the moral high ground and hope that it works out. For example, I just sent in a hulk 181 to be pressed and graded. Do I think CGC will do a better job than CBCS? Quite simply no. Do I think CGC will command a higher premium when I try and sell it? Yes. If it means a couple thousand dollars in difference, I'm not going to let that slide. My brother was into Amway once upon a time, he proposed we buy only Amway soap. Even if we had to wait for it. I said no. Even if it's a better product, I need to take a shower tonight. I'm not waiting 2 days to get a bar of soap because it is loyalty to the brand. That kind of loyalty is what I meant by cult following. It defied common sense. I couldn't make out the logic. In the case with CBCS, yeah I prefer their cases, but if it means I'm not eating dinner because of loyalty, I'm sorry, my stomach wins. |
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| Hi guys I've been doing some research on the 2 companies CGC and CBCS to see which company I should send my books in to get grading. Even before the new price increases at CGC I feel CBCS is the superior company but their slabs don't command as much as CGC slabs. Now with the price increases I have decided to use CBCS for now. I have a question about the membership progam. I will mostly be sending in moderns and I see that in the Bronze tier there is the ecoupons rewards for 2x 2-day Modern. This is really confusing. Is that suppose to mean that I will get 2x the points rewards if I sign up for the Bronze tier? What does 2-day modern mean? Also I will be sending the books from Canada. On the Canadian page there is no option for membership pricing. It just lists the books for a flat fee for grading. The communication is very confusing. |
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| @Pedigree Welcome to the boards! |
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| Two day modern means two business days for grading I believe.... | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte @Bronte Please don't take this as meant with any malice, or as personal to you, but it is my sincere hope and expectation that your choice will come back one day to bite you in the ass hard. I think that by choosing CBCS I am playing Chess, not Checkers. I'm not making the obvious choice that's in front of me...I'm looking a couple steps ahead when I make my move. I'm not choosing the option that fetches the highest FMV today. I'm choosing the one that I believe has the integrity and consistency to not have their brand tarnished in the future. I could be all wrong about this, but I've learned from the past not to ignore the warning signs and growing drumbeat of voices regarding a company's quality or integrity. And I will be perfectly content if the day ever comes that CBCS/CGC truly get the results they deserve based on the choices they made. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Pedigree You have the option of submitting through the Canadian office, which facilitates shipping the books to and from the main office in Dallas. Due to this, the Canadian portal does not offer as wide variety of services, notably the expedited services since there is additional time involved. You are welcome to use the main USA portal with the added options. You can mail your books directly to Dallas but I believe you can still mail your USA orders to the Canada office and they will forward them along to the main office, though I’ve only heard this from @KatComics who uses the Canada office on a regular basis I recommend checking out the Newbie’s Guide for more information about the services and process |
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| @EbayMafia I am well versed in delayed vs immediate gratification. My bachelor's degree is in psychology. I am assuming by your comment that I made the wrong choice in the long term. In my particular situation, I am looking to sell the book within this calender year. So in my eyes I can't see CBCS becoming market equivalent in the course of a few months. I'm making the decision that makes the most sense for ME at this time. In the long term, I sincerely hope you and everyone else are correct. (Not that I crash and burn, but that CBCS will rise to the status it deserves.) |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| @Bronte It is unfortunate that our system of living has put you in a position where you feel the need to use an inferior product just to get by. That said, when your Hulk gets back, are you putting it up for auction? Rolling the dice that you'll get as much money for it as you need? I can see how you might since you need money today, not tomorrow (hopefully not literally today, because it's going to take an extra month to get graded at CGC with their check-in time, but you get my point). Maybe you'll get more because it's in a CGC slab but you'll never know for sure. But if you're instead selling it at a fixed price, are you really going to ask more than you would have if you had sent it to CBCS? I hope not, as that seems self-defeating. I've sold the vast majority of my comics (which isn't a lot by any means, but some) as BIN. Whether it's a CBCS or a CGC, I go through the same system for pricing and listing it. I haven't had any problem selling any of them. If you have a desirable book at a reasonable price, it's going to sell. If we want to talk about a cult following, I think that's why CGC books sell for a little more. I have yet to hear a good reason why they would. Reasons, like CGC existed first, sure. But not good ones. Isn't that cult thinking? |
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| I'm telling you, the Registry at the cgc drives prices. People love to enter in those numbers and fill a slot. That's the biggest downfall to selling a CBCS graded book. Collectors don't have any where to stick it and no reason to buy the next one. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| I've sold CGC and CBCS slabs (BIN) and one time I had someone ask for a discount because of the CBCS case. My response was "no". I don't subscribe to the CBCS inferiority. If anything, I should charge a premium for its superior everything over the other guys. | ||
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| @xkonk In my opinion, you can't be blinded by just one viewpoint. You have to see things from the other side as well as your own viewpoint. Both sides have a following, my use of the word cult may have been a bit extreme. In my world, I NEED to think like the other person to see where they are coming from. I cant just go with my initial feelings. I may not be the most cerebral thinking person in tbe forum, but I do try and take account other folks thoughts / opinions before making my own opinion. In MY past experience, CBCS is a harder sell. People don't want to spend the money on a CBCS book unless it's at a discount to CGC. Again this is my personal experience. I've actually gotten messages saying if this was a CGC book I would have bought it already.... In regards to CGC, my book is going through tbe walk through tier. Essentially it skips the line of wait. It took 4 days I think to input into the system. 10 days to press and same day to grade. Since I live in tbe same state I get the books literally next day when they ship. As for how much I ask for the book. I plan to ask for as much the market can bear. I know that I sold a hulk 181 2.5 a long time ago that I regraded as a CBCS and got only a fraction of a comparable CGC book. Hence my current decision. As I mentioned many times before, I think CBCS is a better product and if not for the financial motivations I would be going CBCS. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson @DrWatson You've mentioned this before and it made me realize that there is more to it than I had ever considered. Particularly when it comes to 9.8 moderns and high grade keys. I should verify this, but I think the difference in cgc/cbcs selling price for moderns at 9.6 is far less than at 9.8. Which probably has a lot to do with 9.8's being for that registry and 9.6's not so much. |
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| @GAC the audacity.... | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia It's what started me on graded books years ago. Gotta catch 'em all... Oh, wait... |
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