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Collector kidhuman private msg quote post Address this user
Just wondering, when is the card charged? At which step during the process?
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
@kidhuman When your order is received/checked in. If you use any kind of screening then some of the charge may happen later. Like if you use press screen, you pay for the grading and the press screen at check-in and then pay for any pressing that happens after the press screen occurs. If you use grade screen, you pay for the grading after the screen occurs.
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Collector kidhuman private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xkonk
@kidhuman When your order is received/checked in. If you use any kind of screening then some of the charge may happen later. Like if you use press screen, you pay for the grading and the press screen at check-in and then pay for any pressing that happens after the press screen occurs. If you use grade screen, you pay for the grading after the screen occurs.


Thank you for the quick response.
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Collector Silverado private msg quote post Address this user
Thank you all for the replies/help to my unique query.
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Collector DREADH3AD private msg quote post Address this user
Regarding comics in a sealed poly-bag, is it possible to have the sealed comic encapsulated by CBCS without a grade, but with autograph authentication?

Example: Superman #75 "The Death of Superman", sealed in the poly-bag and signed by the creative team.

The goal would be to have the item encapsulated to preserve the autographs, and to contain the entire item (comic & poly-bag) as it was on the day it released on store shelves.

Another example would be Ultimate Fallout #4. From what I've seen, the comic sealed in a poly-bag is currently valued more than a 9.6 grade.
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@DREADH3AD Welcomd to the forum!

Great question! I do not believe CBCS will encapsulate anything in the slab that may cause damage to the book whether grading or not. I believe the polybags do cause an indentation at the seam. For this reason, I do not believe they'll do this but we should probably get an official response.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@DREADH3AD No. Sealed comics must be removed from their bags before encapsulation. Per their grading restrictions:

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Poly-bagged comics must be removed before they can be certified. If you do not remove the comic from the poly bag, by submitting it to CBCS for certification, you are authorizing us to remove it for you. Comics with loose items such as detached 3-D glasses, poly-bags, certificates of authenticity, or other loose materials that can damage a book will not be encapsulated with the comic. These items will be sent back to you at no extra charge.



If you want the whole thing encapsulated together, PGX is the only major grader to do so, and even they assign it a “No Grade” because you can’t evaluate a book’s condition when it is in a bag.

Since the book isn’t being graded regardless, your other option if you wanted something similar to a slab, would be something like a Comic Skin
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Collector NDS private msg quote post Address this user
So I recently bought a CBCS Graded book off eBay. I typically check the CBCS population report to make sure it's listed before I bid on anything. However, I didn't do that this time as the seller had 100% feedback over a long period.

So I just checked the population report now and only 1 book is listed as graded. And of course, the CBCS serial number listed in the population report does not match the CBCS serial number I have on the book I purchased. However, when I clicked on the CBCS serial number of the book listed in the population report, it shows this... "Total Grade in Pop Report: 3". So is the population report just not showing all the actual graded books of this comic? Is there a way to just search by the CBCS Serial Number? I guess the book I purchased has not been entered into the database or can be viewed for whatever reason, but this all just seems odd. I've never run into this issue before. Thanks in advance.

NDS
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
@NDS sometimes they have different titles. Like one will be "Spider-Man" and another "Spider-man". That's my example, I don't recall if it is an actual example. Anyways, enter the EXACT title on your label or pick out the exact one on the drop down list as you are typing. If that's not it, let me know what book you have and I'll see if I can find it.
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Collector Silverado private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by NDS
So I recently bought a CBCS Graded book off eBay. I typically check the CBCS population report to make sure it's listed before I bid on anything. However, I didn't do that this time as the seller had 100% feedback over a long period.

So I just checked the population report now and only 1 book is listed as graded. And of course, the CBCS serial number listed in the population report does not match the CBCS serial number I have on the book I purchased. However, when I clicked on the CBCS serial number of the book listed in the population report, it shows this... "Total Grade in Pop Report: 3". So is the population report just not showing all the actual graded books of this comic? Is there a way to just search by the CBCS Serial Number? I guess the book I purchased has not been entered into the database or can be viewed for whatever reason, but this all just seems odd. I've never run into this issue before. Thanks in advance.

NDS


If it was graded recently, it might not be in the system. I had my books back for about a month and they didn't end up in the system. Jesse_o fixed it for me but who knows how long some books are in limbo...
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
@NDS it's possible the 'total graded' is wonky. I randomly picked a comic, since you didn't provide an example, and clicked through to the serial number of one of them. It said there are 34 graded copies of that book even though the original search results have 44 (32 of the direct edition I was looking at, 6 direct, and 6 in another category for some reason). You could click the 'report an issue' button and describe what's happening, see if you get a response.

Have you tried checking the number in the graders notes area? Is there a particular thing you're worried about?
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Collector NDS private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks, Jesse_O! I noticed that tendency of the search before, so I know what you're describing. I've typed it as it appears on the slab and other variations, just in case. Still only 1 book listed with a total graded of 3 books. Dunno.

Here is the book listed in the population report:

Comic ID: 17-3068549-063 (this is actually listed on eBay for purchase)
Grade: 9.8
PQ: White
Variant: Direct Edition
Pedigree: N/A
Total Grade in Pop Report: 3
Comic Graded higher: 0

Here is the Serial ID of the book I purchased. 20-3E12373-049

I appreciate the help!!

NDS
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@NDS The book is coming up as Invalid on the grader’s notes. This doesn’t necessarily mean that the book is fake. Unfortunately sometimes orders aren’t properly completed so the grader’s notes aren’t moved into public view. I would try to email CBCS customer service and see if they can locate the grader’s notes

If you are just using the population report to confirm that a book is legitimate, you are probably better off using the looGrader’s Notes tool, which allows you to search by serial number
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Collector NDS private msg quote post Address this user
@Silverado: Yup, I hear ya. That's what I was thinking too. But like I said, I hadn't run into this before and I buy slabbed books fairly often and they're almost always listed. Since CBCS is almost always slammed, I imagine it just fell through the cracks.

@xkonk: It's a Wonder Woman Gallery #NN (1996/DC). I did try the Graders Notes Area, but it just responded with "Invalid Comic". I just want to verify that the book I purchased is in the CBCS system and legit. I have a catalog of all slabbed books that I have purchased and I verify each one. So I don't buy the same book twice! Haha... it's happened a couple times. Plus I imagine the original submitter would want the items they're selling to be verifiable. I'm not too worried about it. Like I said the seller appears legit and this is probably just a glitch, but I guess we'll see.

NDS
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Collector NDS private msg quote post Address this user
@dielinfinite: I tried "Wonder Woman Gallery", "Wonder Woman Gallery #NN), and the "20-3E12373-049" serial number of the slab I purchased. All came up "Invalid Comic".

I do see it working for the slab already in the system, though.

NDS
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
Send an email to Customer Service at customerservice@cbcscomics.com

They should be able to verify the book and hopefully explain why the grader’s notes are not showing up
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Out of curiosity, can you scan the code on the back label of the comic?
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte It shouldn’t make a difference since the QR code should try to link to the Grader’s Notes page which doesn’t seem to currently exist
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Understood.
My thoughts were that I have had problems with serial numbers in the past, and found that scanning the code always yielded a result. The circumstances in this case might be totally different though.
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Collector comixcited private msg quote post Address this user
I believe CBCS is catching up on uploading older slabs. the new ones seem to upload to the population report automatically but the older ones have to be submitted manually (theoretical)? this one seems to be from 2017 so it would be pre auto upload (I think?).
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte Interesting. In my experience it just goes to the same url you would arrive to if you searched for the serial number on the grader’s notes tool but I haven’t tried it in a while. Could it actually send you elsewhere?
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
I think the problem i had was that the serial number was an old one and I couldn't figure out the search parameters. However I scanned the code and it came up. I forget what book it was it was so long ago....
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte Ahh okay, that makes sense
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by NDS
Thanks, Jesse_O! I noticed that tendency of the search before, so I know what you're describing. I've typed it as it appears on the slab and other variations, just in case. Still only 1 book listed with a total graded of 3 books. Dunno.

Here is the book listed in the population report:

Comic ID: 17-3068549-063 (this is actually listed on eBay for purchase)
Grade: 9.8
PQ: White
Variant: Direct Edition
Pedigree: N/A
Total Grade in Pop Report: 3
Comic Graded higher: 0

Here is the Serial ID of the book I purchased. 20-3E12373-049

I appreciate the help!!

NDS


The unofficial guess is that it is not entered into the population report yet. This would then make the total count of 3 correct. It would be the one listed, yours, and one more that is listed on eBay with a cert #20-3E12373-050 (one off from yours). If I get that officially verified, I'll let you know. But honestly, since there is another one on eBay with the next number (presumably the same seller) I wouldn't worry about it being legit.
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
Oh, 9.8's generally don't have notes.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@Jesse_O I think it might be a case of the order status not being changed to “Completed” because the serial numbers are returning as Invalid for any book on that invoice when you search for grader’s notes
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Collector NDS private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte: QR code did not work either

@Comixited: The 2017 slab is already in the system and is found when you search both the Population Report or the Grader's Notes (17-3068549-063). The book I purchased is 20-3E12373-049, thus a 2020 book. The Population Report and/or the Grader's Notes may have COVID. Dunno.

@dielinfinite: I will send an email to Customer Service.

Thanks, everyone!!

NDS
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Collector NDS private msg quote post Address this user
@Jessie_O: That is what I was thinking. The Seller of 20-3E12373-050 on eBay is the same seller that I bought 20-3E12373-049 from. So I think it's just a lag or something in the process being incomplete.

@dielinfinite: That makes the most sense. A button has not been clicked (or somehting) for it to be viewed in the pop report or the grader's notes because it's maybe "still in process".

Like I said, never had this issue before... but I appreciate everyone's input and help to try and help solve the mystery. Thank you!

NDS
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@NDS Grader’ Notes are supposed to become available once the order has shipped. It is not unheard of for books to be shipped without the order status being changed to Complete, which would then make the Grader’s notes go live. I don’t know enough to say how common an issue it is but I think it has happened once on one of my orders
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
@NDS you book is now in the system. It will show up in the graders notes now. The population report SHOULD update in the next day or two. If it doesn't, use the "report a problem" function on the population report page.
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