Hulk 180 or 181?9936

Originally Posted by EbaySeller
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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
Originally Posted by EbaySeller
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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
Just glancing at the CGC census it shows well over 4,000 copies of 180 and over 12,000 copies of 181....suggestive that if the price levels were realized for 180 that have been seen for 181, it too would reach a much higher census figure.


Exactly correct. My point was that the ratio of available Jimmy Olsen 134 to Forever People 1 is probably very different than the ratio of Hulk 180 to Hulk 181 (which is most likely 1 to 1). I'm thinking this explains why a single panel appearance in Jimmy Olsen has a higher market value than the full first appearance in Forever People. At a local convention I might find 3-4 copies of JO 134 vs 30-40 copies of Forever People 1.



I am not so sure of those conclusions..the CGC census has 1371 Jimmy Olsen 134, vs 1420 copies of Forever people

The total graded is misleading because JO 134 has a much higher FMV and is more likely to be graded regardless of condition. Forever People is less likely to get graded in mid to lower grades, only worth about $70 in 5.0. A better measurement would be to compare the high-grade numbers (9.4-9.8). There you have 318 forever people to only 83 JO, about a 3.5 to 1 ratio. This ratio would make sense only if Forever People were the higher value book. When you factor in that Forever People 1 has only about 40% the FMV of JO 134, it's now reasonable to assume that Forever People 1 might be 5 to 7 times more common than JO 134. I guessed 10x earlier, but maybe 5x-7x is more accurate.

Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
or the statistics could also be a relic of comparing a dark cover vs a white cover comic in high vs low grading which puts you firmly back at...less Jimmy Olsen's than Forever people 1

By your own admission if JO has a higher market value meaning more would be graded and yet there are still less known copies I would have to say...there ya go

Why cherry pick the stats to attempt a different outcome

Originally Posted by EbaySeller
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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
or the statistics could also be a relic of comparing a dark cover vs a white cover comic in high vs low grading which puts you firmly back at...less Jimmy Olsen's than Forever people 1

By your own admission if JO has a higher market value meaning more would be graded and yet there are still less known copies I would have to say...there ya go

Why cherry pick the stats to attempt a different outcome

Now I'm totally confused. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?

Originally Posted by flanders
Be careful with that Gocollect data, the prices listed aren't accurate. If you have a subscription and click the actual sales prices under each grade, often times you'll see several recent sales substantially lower than the listed price and you won't be able to find a single sale that matches the Gocollect estimated price.