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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan While I agree with most of what you're saying, Disney does invest creative time and effort into these Spidey movies. Maybe it's not cold hard $$$ but Kevin Feige specifically spends alot of time and effort from a creative standpoint and as they say time is money. |
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| I think its great the Sony isnt giving in to Disney. Hes not even in any Phase 4 films and Garfield isnt going to get any younger. PLUS, a Spidey-Venom movie would be awesome | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan That is flat-out wrong. Marvel Studios also does not "need" Spider-Man. Not at all. |
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| Negotiation tactic, something will come out of this. | ||
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| Tom Holland unfollowd Sony... Oh snap! | ||
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| I feel a lot of people go see the MCU movies in theaters because they have so much time invested in it and want to see what happens next. If far from home wasn't part of the MCU I wonder if it would have done as good financially. I think that for a lot of people seeing a movie that's part of something like the MCU gives them the extra push to see it in theaters. I had a lot of friends that would have probably waited for the blu ray release of Captain Marvel but they wanted to see it before Endgame, and I know a few people that went to see Spidey 2 because it was the end of phase 3, where they might not have if it wasn't part of the MCU. Sony should understand that by having Spidey in the MCU more people will see it. I know multiple people that don't go see movies a lot but they go see all the MCU movies and wait on the others. I have a feeling they will work something out. Sony just rejected the first offer hoping to see what Disney comes down to. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by moodswingThat'll show 'em! |
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| Sony can not make good Spiderman movies any more for what ever what it worth, The first 2 where great, the other Spiderman movies from Sony where just bad, it is much better in the MCU where he should stay. I feel bad for Tom Holland now in Sony. |
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| Sony was in a bind when they made the deal with Marvel to share Spider-man. They had just been hacked and everything was uncertain going forward. I'm tired of it being a spin-off Iron Man movie, so I think Sony will do fine without Marvel exercising their influence. | ||
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| I have zero problems with how Sony is handling this. | ||
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Never except the first offer. |
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| Stan Lee's daughter came out throwing at Disney and Marvel today. "...Marvel and Disney seeking total control of my father’s creations must be checked and balanced by others who, while still seeking to profit, have genuine respect for Stan Lee and his legacy.” She went on to say: “Whether it’s Sony or someone else’s, the continued evolution of Stan’s characters and his legacy deserves multiple points of view.” The 69-year-old ended her statements with a scathing attack directed at Disney and Marvel. “When my father died, no one from Marvel or Disney reached out to me. From day one, they have commoditised my father’s work and never shown him or his legacy any respect or decency. In the end, no one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney’s executives.”... clickable text |
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| @Towmater I read that earlier today. Stan's daughter is wrong in saying Disney and Marvel didn't pay respect to Stan's legacy. Quite the opposite actually. It's on the blu ray's, his cameos in every film is direct acknowledgment of his contribution to the artform. She's not the most credible person by many people's account including Stan and Joanie Lee. | ||
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@GAC I've no idea. Although, certain corporations may be seen to have issues with creators. |
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| ....Several insiders said Sony Pictures chief Tom Rothman was willing to give up as much as roughly 25% of the franchise and welcome Disney in as a co-financing partner in exchange for Feige’s services. clickable text |
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| @GAC I agree. Time is money. Is Kevin's time worth one half a billion? Regardless of what happens between Sony and Marvel, two more Spider-Man movies are planned and Kraven has been announced as the villain in the next movie. I don't recall any Spidey/Kraven battles in the comics that involved say the GOTG, Captain Marvel or Nick Fury. The actors and director are on board for the next movie. So it seems like the movie should be fine. @theCapraAegagrus One guy from Marvel - no matter how talented - constitutes "hardly any work". Marvel doesn't have to pay anyone, they don't have to finance anything with the current arrangement. That is "hardly any work". Marvel behaves like they need Spider-Man. But otherwise I agree. Marvel's done really well with the MCU. And Sony has done really well with Spider-man properties. For all the critic's complaints, Venom did over 850 million on a 100 million budget. That's the same multiple as Far From Home. That's a little better than Captain Marvel. That's a way, WAY better multiple than GOTG. This is a business after all. Sony is entitled to make business decisions. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan Since when is "financial investment" the only variable in the equation of 'work'...? Money ≠ everything. Marvel Studios performed the majority of creative work on the Spider-Man movies and characters. The art/product means more than investment/profit to the Spider-Man character. Marvel also is not behaving like they "need" Spider-Man. They're asking for a bigger pieces of the pie. They had 5% - and now they want 30%. That doesn't sound desperate to me - at all. |
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| https://cosmicbook.news/spider-man-deal-7-movies-avengers New Spider-Man Deal possibly underway with Disney, Marvel and Sony According to the new deal Disney wants: - A 6-picture deal with Tom Holland, with an option for a 7th. - There are three more Spider-Man films after Spider-Man 3, which will be a new trilogy. - The second trilogy will focus on Peter Parker's college years including plans for Peter to meet up and team up with Firestar and Ice Man of the X-Men (based in part on the old Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends cartoon). - The other three movies are two Avengers films in which Spider-Man will have a larger role and become friends with Johnny Storm (Human Torch from the Fantastic Four). - Marvel Studios will helm and co-finance all Spider-Man related movies for 30% of the full profits (Disney previously wanted 50%, but Sony said no, which led to the talks falling apart). - Sony would distribute, but Disney will acquire exclusive digital and online rights for Disney Plus and affiliated TV networks. - Marvel Studios will helm and co-finance SpiderVerse live-action spinoffs under the same terms. - Venom will relocate into the MCU. - Sony will be given permission for TV live-action programs based on SpiderVerse properties (Sony only has film rights to Spider-Man, but needs permission from Disney for TV rights) - Disney wants the deal to be done before Saturday's Marvel panel at D23 Expo. - Spider-Man is also said to be a part of a D23 Expo panel. Additional details: - It's said Tom Holland wants to stay with the MCU (it's been reported both Holland and Zendaya unfollowed Sony on Instagram). - If Sony was purchased by another company (like Apple), the Spider-Man film rights would go back to Disney, which Disney would love. - Disney wants to take out Netflix and dominate the streaming world, making their shareholders happy, which includes Marvel Studios now working with Marvel TV (former Marvel TV Netflix characters are rumored to be coming to FX). |
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it looks like a deal has been struck if you interpret Tom Hollands post this way. |
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| this could mean anything but the timing of his post is suspect... | ||
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| I agree. 2-3 days ago Tom Holland and Zendaya unfollowed Sony lol | ||
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