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Collector OrangeNemesis private msg quote post Address this user
CGC will not grade these books because of the covers. Does anyone know if CBCS will?

thanks in advance
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
Only a call to customer service knows for sure, but I would guess not.
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Collector RyanHicks private msg quote post Address this user
No, they will not unfortunately

Edit: I did hear historically that PGX would grade erotic covers (ie. Savage Dragon erotic cover) so if you really want it graded you can try them but I think most people would rather just keep raw lol
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Collector Lonestar private msg quote post Address this user
If you are referring to the issue #1 & #2 second printing erotic variants, I would bet there is almost a zero percent chance that CBCS would grade them.

The only way to know for sure would be to contact CBCS in advance. I suggest you do so before submitting them.
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Gotlift private msg quote post Address this user
We kind of covered this a couple weeks ago

The conclusion was to take a picture or scan and email it to CBCS for approval.
I just haven’t done it yet.
I have those and they are a quite risqué
I would definitely get them cleared beforehand.
If not there are a few places (comic skin)
That sell holders with nice looking blue labels. If you want to encapsulate.
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Collector OrangeNemesis private msg quote post Address this user
Just found it odd seeing some of the stuff CGC HAS graded and then get told no on that issue. But its whatever in the end.
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Collector Stantheman private msg quote post Address this user
@ryanhicks PGX will grade it because the grader will miss that is has an erotic cover like all the other things they miss in grading!
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Collector etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user
If CGC won't grade it due to it being an "erotic" cover, I'd say there's no way CBCS will. CBCS would not grade the full nude Sad Girl Psycho Baby #2s, but CGC will.
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CBCS Pressing SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by OrangeNemesis
CGC will not grade these books because of the covers. Does anyone know if CBCS will?

thanks in advance


No, we will not grade or encapsulate them.
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by OrangeNemesis
CGC will not grade these books because of the covers. Does anyone know if CBCS will?

thanks in advance


If CGC, who encapsulates Playboy magazine, is not encapsulating these well my guess would be that CBCS won't either.

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CGC will not grade these books because of the covers. Does anyone know if CBCS will?

thanks in advance


No, we will not grade or encapsulate them.


Is it because of the nudity? or because of political correctness?
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
Keep in mind that in the workplace, adults don’t have to be subjected to things other adults do not find objectionable. And employers have to very careful of creating a hostile work environment even if others do not find it hostile.
I used to see centerfolds displayed around workplaces in my various fields and locations of employment, no more, pretty much.
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Collector Lonestar private msg quote post Address this user
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Is it because of the nudity? or because of political correctness?


Have you actually looked at these covers? These are the erotic variant second printings. The certainly go beyond "nudity".
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COLLECTOR Wolverine private msg quote post Address this user
Seems like that is just giving money to competitors in not doing that. I mean. They’re not making them. Just grading them.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.
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Collector etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user
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Seems like that is just giving money to competitors in not doing that. I mean. They’re not making them. Just grading them.
...there are no competitors that will grade these. For the reasons @GAC mentioned. I don't have an issue with it as long as their consistent and clear regarding what is considered acceptable.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Exactly. And they’ve been pretty consistent. Some nudity is allowed, just not anything that would be considered explicit. Not sure where they fall on full frontal, but I’d imagine it’s a case by case basis.
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Collector etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user
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Exactly. And they’ve been pretty consistent. Some nudity is allowed, just not anything that would be considered explicit. Not sure where they fall on full frontal, but I’d imagine it’s a case by case basis.
I think there's a gratuity component to it too. It the image is telling some sort of story, or in context nudity makes sense. Versus just a naked person for the sake of having nudity. I also think they let it slide on much older stuff that has more of a historical component.
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
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It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.


How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Their name is on the slab. It’s approval by proxy. A stretch, but a matter of principle.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.


How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement.


If you owned a grading company would you attach your brand or logo to Neo-Nazi propaganda literature?

An extreme example but it's about controversial material a corporation doesn't want attach itself too.
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
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It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.


How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement.


If you owned a grading company would you attach your brand or logo to Neo-Nazi propaganda literature?

An extreme example but it's about controversial material a corporation doesn't want attach itself too.


I don't do hypothetical. They (both CGC/CBCS) are impartial grading and certification companies where is the impartiality when they start deeming what is politically correct or not? If it is how they define there services they should be more akin to their own vision and objective.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.


How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement.


If you owned a grading company would you attach your brand or logo to Neo-Nazi propaganda literature?

An extreme example but it's about controversial material a corporation doesn't want attach itself too.


I don't do hypothetical. They (both CGC/CBCS) are impartial grading and certification companies where is the impartiality when they start deeming what is politically correct or not? If it is how they define there services they should be more akin to their own vision and objective.


where do you draw the line then? or is there no line? should a corporation have no moral compass? they should grade any comic book regardless of subject matter?
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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where is the impartiality when they start deeming what is politically correct or not?


The impartiality is on the condition of the book, not the content. Kind of like the FDA; they'll tell you if something is safe but not if it's worth eating.
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
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It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.


How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement.


If you owned a grading company would you attach your brand or logo to Neo-Nazi propaganda literature?

An extreme example but it's about controversial material a corporation doesn't want attach itself too.


I don't do hypothetical. They (both CGC/CBCS) are impartial grading and certification companies where is the impartiality when they start deeming what is politically correct or not? If it is how they define there services they should be more akin to their own vision and objective.


where do you draw the line then? or is there no line? should a corporation have no moral compass? they should grade any comic book regardless of subject matter?


yes, it is what customers are paying for not for any type of moral compass.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.


How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement.


If you owned a grading company would you attach your brand or logo to Neo-Nazi propaganda literature?

An extreme example but it's about controversial material a corporation doesn't want attach itself too.


I don't do hypothetical. They (both CGC/CBCS) are impartial grading and certification companies where is the impartiality when they start deeming what is politically correct or not? If it is how they define there services they should be more akin to their own vision and objective.


where do you draw the line then? or is there no line? should a corporation have no moral compass? they should grade any comic book regardless of subject matter?


yes, it is what customers are paying for not for any type of moral compass.


Totally disagree. It doesn't matter that there's a client willing to pay. It's refreshing to see a company with a moral standard. A company has the right to refuse business if it chooses to.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
I seem to recall a book listed by a member that mentioned the swaztika. My first impression was, damn I cant believe they graded that.

So the argument of being guilty by proxy does take effect.


I found the book I was referring to on Google images.


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Collector Terry88 private msg quote post Address this user
But there's a problem with cartoon nudity!

lolz
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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I seem to recall a book listed by a member that mentioned the swaztika. My first impression was, damn I cant believe they graded that.

So the argument of being guilty by proxy does take effect.


I found the book I was referring to on Google images.




I thought about this book in regard to this thread. I new it had been graded. it'd be interesting to know what this book is actually about. I would bet a whole lot of money that nazis are not portrayed in a positive light hence cgc grading it. I would be shocked if this is a pro-nazi story.
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Collector X51 private msg quote post Address this user
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It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books.


How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement.


If you owned a grading company would you attach your brand or logo to Neo-Nazi propaganda literature?

An extreme example but it's about controversial material a corporation doesn't want attach itself too.


Definitely not! I would never want my name associated with anything that implied I endorse Nazi values.

http://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fitems%2Easp%3Fid%3D5260&id=1312374
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC

People like my dumb ass dont often look deeper than the cover.

As usual common sense prevails.


Hansi: The Girl who Loved the Swastika is an American one-shot comic book, published in 1973 by Spire Christian Comics and drawn by Al Hartley. It is a story set in Nazi Germany in 1938 that condemns Nazism and Communism and promotes the Bible. It is based on the real-life story of Maria Anne Hirschmann
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