will cbcs grade Faithless erotic covers?9309
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OrangeNemesis private msg quote post Address this user | |
CGC will not grade these books because of the covers. Does anyone know if CBCS will? thanks in advance |
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xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Only a call to customer service knows for sure, but I would guess not. | ||
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RyanHicks private msg quote post Address this user | |
No, they will not unfortunately ![]() Edit: I did hear historically that PGX would grade erotic covers (ie. Savage Dragon erotic cover) so if you really want it graded you can try them but I think most people would rather just keep raw lol |
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Lonestar private msg quote post Address this user | |
If you are referring to the issue #1 & #2 second printing erotic variants, I would bet there is almost a zero percent chance that CBCS would grade them. The only way to know for sure would be to contact CBCS in advance. I suggest you do so before submitting them. |
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Gotlift private msg quote post Address this user | |
We kind of covered this a couple weeks ago The conclusion was to take a picture or scan and email it to CBCS for approval. I just haven’t done it yet. I have those and they are a quite risqué I would definitely get them cleared beforehand. If not there are a few places (comic skin) That sell holders with nice looking blue labels. If you want to encapsulate. |
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OrangeNemesis private msg quote post Address this user | |
Just found it odd seeing some of the stuff CGC HAS graded and then get told no on that issue. But its whatever in the end. | ||
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Stantheman private msg quote post Address this user | |
@ryanhicks PGX will grade it because the grader will miss that is has an erotic cover like all the other things they miss in grading! | ||
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etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user | |
If CGC won't grade it due to it being an "erotic" cover, I'd say there's no way CBCS will. CBCS would not grade the full nude Sad Girl Psycho Baby #2s, but CGC will. | ||
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SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by OrangeNemesis No, we will not grade or encapsulate them. |
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SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by OrangeNemesis If CGC, who encapsulates Playboy magazine, is not encapsulating these well my guess would be that CBCS won't either. Quote: Originally Posted by SteveRicketts Is it because of the nudity? or because of political correctness? |
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doog private msg quote post Address this user | |
Keep in mind that in the workplace, adults don’t have to be subjected to things other adults do not find objectionable. And employers have to very careful of creating a hostile work environment even if others do not find it hostile. I used to see centerfolds displayed around workplaces in my various fields and locations of employment, no more, pretty much. |
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Lonestar private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim Have you actually looked at these covers? These are the erotic variant second printings. The certainly go beyond "nudity". |
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Wolverine private msg quote post Address this user | |
Seems like that is just giving money to competitors in not doing that. I mean. They’re not making them. Just grading them. | ||
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
It attaches their name and in some way perhaps endorses the content or at the very least the PERCEPTION is CBCS endorses the content. I completely understand why a company would choose not to grade these books. | ||
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etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Wolverine...there are no competitors that will grade these. For the reasons @GAC mentioned. I don't have an issue with it as long as their consistent and clear regarding what is considered acceptable. |
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00slim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Exactly. And they’ve been pretty consistent. Some nudity is allowed, just not anything that would be considered explicit. Not sure where they fall on full frontal, but I’d imagine it’s a case by case basis. | ||
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etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 00slimI think there's a gratuity component to it too. It the image is telling some sort of story, or in context nudity makes sense. Versus just a naked person for the sake of having nudity. I also think they let it slide on much older stuff that has more of a historical component. |
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SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC How would grading them endorse the product? CBCS/CGC are third party grading company nothing they grade is being endorsed by them or in need of their endorsement. |
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00slim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Their name is on the slab. It’s approval by proxy. A stretch, but a matter of principle. | ||
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim If you owned a grading company would you attach your brand or logo to Neo-Nazi propaganda literature? An extreme example but it's about controversial material a corporation doesn't want attach itself too. |
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SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I don't do hypothetical. They (both CGC/CBCS) are impartial grading and certification companies where is the impartiality when they start deeming what is politically correct or not? If it is how they define there services they should be more akin to their own vision and objective. |
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim where do you draw the line then? or is there no line? should a corporation have no moral compass? they should grade any comic book regardless of subject matter? |
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xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim The impartiality is on the condition of the book, not the content. Kind of like the FDA; they'll tell you if something is safe but not if it's worth eating. |
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SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC yes, it is what customers are paying for not for any type of moral compass. |
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim Totally disagree. It doesn't matter that there's a client willing to pay. It's refreshing to see a company with a moral standard. A company has the right to refuse business if it chooses to. |
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
I seem to recall a book listed by a member that mentioned the swaztika. My first impression was, damn I cant believe they graded that. So the argument of being guilty by proxy does take effect. I found the book I was referring to on Google images. ![]() |
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Terry88 private msg quote post Address this user | |
But there's a problem with cartoon nudity! lolz |
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte I thought about this book in regard to this thread. I new it had been graded. it'd be interesting to know what this book is actually about. I would bet a whole lot of money that nazis are not portrayed in a positive light hence cgc grading it. I would be shocked if this is a pro-nazi story. |
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Definitely not! I would never want my name associated with anything that implied I endorse Nazi values. http://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fitems%2Easp%3Fid%3D5260&id=1312374 |
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
@GAC People like my dumb ass dont often look deeper than the cover. As usual common sense prevails. Hansi: The Girl who Loved the Swastika is an American one-shot comic book, published in 1973 by Spire Christian Comics and drawn by Al Hartley. It is a story set in Nazi Germany in 1938 that condemns Nazism and Communism and promotes the Bible. It is based on the real-life story of Maria Anne Hirschmann |
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