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I swore no more comics, then this happened. PaulPop private msg quote post Address this user
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The restored grade is how it appears to look, not the actual grade as if it was an unaltered comic.
I have to agree. See this example. It got restored up to a 9.6
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
Interesting. I have one book that came back restored a while ago. A small amount of color touch on the cover is the note, House of Mystery #1 5.0. Probably not valuable enough to try for removal, but I did not know that was even an option, so thanks
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Here's a link to a color touch removal that probably never should have been done. I can't imagine this book looked worse before.
https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/447874-restoration-removal-blue-label-sale/
I would assume that this wasn't just "small amount of color touch" though. This is certainly an extreme example.
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Collector gmellos private msg quote post Address this user
YEAH.... No thanks! I have a Avengers 4 I got graded that came back restored. I am NOT going to have the color touch removed after seeing the comic from the link
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If you are emotionally and financially ready to sell this book, the best advice is to just sell it. You have a finished product right at a restored grade of 5.5 on a very desirable and attractive key book. You can have the color touch removed (potentially) and the book pressed and regarded, but to what end? The only thing that is and always will be negotiable is the price, so let the market decide what that will be. If you are not happy with what offers you receive, look at further options. Yes, the demand for restored comics is smaller, but it does exist. You already acknowledge there will be a price drop from the FMV of an unrestored 5.5, so try to sell the book. You can always change an asking price without changing the item.

It doesn't make much sense to me to spend more money to take less money.
Just my two cents.
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I swore no more comics, then this happened. PaulPop private msg quote post Address this user
After seeing some examples of color touch removal, I think I will stay away from it. At least the book presents better and it is already graded. I'll put it at $5000 as an auction and see what happens.

I'll be back in a week or so to grumble about eBay and Paypal fees.

@gmellos Have I got a book for you!!! LOL.
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After seeing some examples of color touch removal, I think I will stay away from it. At least the book presents better and it is already graded. I'll put it at $5000 as an auction and see what happens.

I'll be back in a week or so to grumble about eBay and Paypal fees.

@gmellos Have I got a book for you!!! LOL.


lol

I am currently out of the market on books over 500.00 I am saving up for SDCC.
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I have a graded book with the notation "Minor amount of color
touch on cover." To the best of my knowledge the only thing
done to the cover appears to be an erasure of some pencil marks
...I guess this is considered "color touch" and restoration.

Marty

No, it isn't.
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This Hulk 181 was a B1 Restored 7.0.

B means decent quality work, 1 being the amount (minor).

After removal, it came back a 6.5.

See the scrapes on the spine for where restoration was removed.

More restoration to remove = bigger impact on grade.


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I swore no more comics, then this happened. PaulPop private msg quote post Address this user
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I am currently out of the market on books over 500.00 I am saving up for SDCC.
That's a good reason. I haven't made it yet.
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I swore no more comics, then this happened. PaulPop private msg quote post Address this user
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More restoration to remove = bigger impact on grade.
Very nice example. I'm going to live with it. Let's see if anyone on eBay is watching.
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Collector VisceralDreams private msg quote post Address this user
IMO i would rather remove the color touch. Yes you are spending more money on a book that will come back a lower grade but it will definitely be easier to sell a blue label book. If the book didn't look too bad after resto removal, i would even think of keeping it.
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Imagine if a few years from now, we had the technology to remove the restoration without severely defacing the book.

Everyone who had “restoration removal” done today would be kicking themselves in the ass.



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@martymann
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Originally Posted by martymann
I have a graded book with the notation "Minor amount of color
touch on cover." To the best of my knowledge the only thing
done to the cover appears to be an erasure of some pencil marks
...I guess this is considered "color touch" and restoration.

Marty


I believe Golden Age comics can have a certain amount of color touch and still receive a Universal label.
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@PaulPop Looks amazing!
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That link to the Planet Comics #1... OMG! Looks like a mouse ate it or they took a Drummel tool to it. I still think restored and conserved books get a raw deal. But, that's just my opinion. It would just make things easier when buying them if there was a set formula to figure out the FMV of books that have had professional work done to them. Bottom line is it's as valuable as much as a person will pay for it.

@PaulPop Still love that Batman!
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PEDIGREED... Again! martymann private msg quote post Address this user
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I have a graded book with the notation "Minor amount of color
touch on cover." To the best of my knowledge the only thing
done to the cover appears to be an erasure of some pencil marks
...I guess this is considered "color touch" and restoration.

Marty

No, it isn't.


CGC Certification #0225530001.

Marty
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by martymann
I have a graded book with the notation "Minor amount of color
touch on cover." To the best of my knowledge the only thing
done to the cover appears to be an erasure of some pencil marks
...I guess this is considered "color touch" and restoration.

Marty

No, it isn't.


CGC Certification #0225530001.

Marty


Marty, the CGC notes do say “Minor amount of color touch on cover (cover detached).” But it also says it received a Blue Universal label, not a restored label. My guess is that there’s only a dab or two of a “magic marker” type pen that you can see some bleed through on the inside cover. Pencil marks, erased or not, would never be listed as color touch.

PS - You have the only graded copy! Nice!
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@esaravo

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I have a graded book with the notation "Minor amount of color
touch on cover." To the best of my knowledge the only thing
done to the cover appears to be an erasure of some pencil marks
...I guess this is considered "color touch" and restoration.

Marty

No, it isn't.


CGC Certification #0225530001.

Marty


Marty, the CGC notes do say “Minor amount of color touch on cover (cover detached).” But it also says it received a Blue Universal label, not a restored label. My guess is that there’s only a dab or two of a “magic marker” type pen that you can see some bleed through on the inside cover. Pencil marks, erased or note, would never be listed as color touch.

PS - You have the only graded copy! Nice!


The actual grader’s notes may give more insight into the nature of the “color touch”.
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PEDIGREED... Again! martymann private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by martymann
I have a graded book with the notation "Minor amount of color
touch on cover." To the best of my knowledge the only thing
done to the cover appears to be an erasure of some pencil marks
...I guess this is considered "color touch" and restoration.

Marty

No, it isn't.


CGC Certification #0225530001.

Marty


Marty, the CGC notes do say “Minor amount of color touch on cover (cover detached).” But it also says it received a Blue Universal label, not a restored label. My guess is that there’s only a dab or two of a “magic marker” type pen that you can see some bleed through on the inside cover. Pencil marks, erased or not, would never be listed as color touch.

PS - You have the only graded copy! Nice!


THANKS! Overstreet notes that's it's the FIRST CHARLTON COMIC
BOOK...but no one else agrees.

Marty
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