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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
On Turok, Dinosaur Hunter # 1 from 1993, there are clearly 2 different Chromium cards on the cover. I distinctly remember that when the comic shop received them, he had dozens of the (what I will call standard chromium) on the right and 3 of the variant on the left on the Red logo. That said, he qualified for a few gold logos, and each had the same variant chromium like the one on the left which has a pronounced gold hue especially along the outlines. Was this an actual error by Valiant? Was this left chromium supposed to only be on the Gold Logo variant?


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Ah yes, one of my favorite artest, Bart Sears!
Maybe the more they printed, the worse the quality before QC caught them.
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I believe that Valiant intentionally made variations to the comics they produced. On XO# 0, there are ivory colored price blocks and white colored ones. There are even some rare pink price blocks on some of their comics. On Rai #0, there are flat & glossy versions. People toss out the word "error" or "mistake", but I think they did it on purpose. Even on some promo posters like the one promoting HARD Corp #1, there are black border versions and blue version ones.
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I love that cover so much. Turok is a great character. Sorry I have nothing to to offer the topic at hand otherwise.......
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I didn't think these were on purpose, but Valiant was the first company to play around with chromium covers and it was my understanding there was a lot of issue with the process that led to the variability. I see the X-O #0 ivory going for "more", but honestly, that's the version I see most often. Pulled a bunch of X-Os out of a dollar bin a couple years ago and 12 of the 15 were ivory.
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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins


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When I got these back from grading last month, I showed them to my son and his response was..."Cool, I loved that video game"😃
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I didn't think these were on purpose, but Valiant was the first company to play around with chromium covers and it was my understanding there was a lot of issue with the process that led to the variability. I see the X-O #0 ivory going for "more", but honestly, that's the version I see most often. Pulled a bunch of X-Os out of a dollar bin a couple years ago and 12 of the 15 were ivory.


There's just too many variations for it all to be an accident. The Gold Eternal Warrior comics "accidentally" being shipped to comic stores worked as a huge marketing boost to the demand. When the retailers were given the gold foil embossed version at the retailer's seminar, some retailers were offering the other retailers $100 a copy outside the door.
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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins




I'm not really a fan of the character, but I collected scans for a cover galley. I assume there are Canadian price variants, but I can't remember.
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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins




HOLY SMOKES! That Turok diorama is insane! Any idea who made it, or if they take commissions?
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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins




I'm not really a fan of the character, but I collected scans for a cover galley. I assume there are Canadian price variants, but I can't remember.
there are price variants between the 12 and 15 cent area timewise.....
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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins




Wow!! That Turok sure is a nasty piece of work - killling a bunch of nice herbivores!!! Were these sponsored by the Beef lobby??
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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins




HOLY SMOKES! That Turok diorama is insane! Any idea who made it, or if they take commissions?



The diorama was begun when I sent Martin Garrat of UMF models in England an old Airfix or pyrite Corythosaurus model I had tried to build.....it had some gaps in the seams and wasn't working out so well...so I hired Martin to mend it and paint it. Once I saw the finished results I had a vision of it being like a dinosaur on a turok cover...so I described for Martin a scene with turok and Andar coming down to a canoe at the waters edge as this dinosaur raises up to threaten them.
I then went on ebay and chose multiple plastic indiands…..needed a small and big one...with a canoe...no rifles, horses, etc. I selected a half dozen canidates and sent those to Martin.

The boat was too large and was cut down, reassembled and had details like the internal area added as well as oars. the two Indians were painted to resemble turok and Andar....although actually two figures from two different scale size sets to make the difference in height and size.The dinosaur was added along with a resin waterway and nametag...voila...


So it was my idea, and I chose the pieces used, and sent him these very turok covers as guides what to depict and the rest was 100 percent Martin Garrat of UMF models, and yes he does take commission work ….and is incidentally a world class paleo painter....also one of the best people you will ever known in your life.

These are part of the thousands of dinosaur models, toys and figures I have, however all these were done by Martin Garrat of UMF models in England.....

I know...I know...a grown ass man playing with dinosaurs !!!













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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins


I'm not really a fan of the character, but I collected scans for a cover galley. I assume there are Canadian price variants, but I can't remember.


there are price variants between the 12 and 15 cent area timewise.....


I'm thinking there are some Canadian variants, but if so, I do not have cover scans.
I can't find cover scans for any 12¢/15¢ variants in my archive of scans.
I do have some scans for 15¢/20¢ variants.





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@Darkseid_of_town Those models are freaking awesome!!!! I love the Godzilla and Creature ones!!! But for straight up dinos, I LOVE the Ankylosaurus (I had to google how to spell it). That has benn my favorite dinosaur since I was a kid.
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A run of books I finished a few years ago..the original Turok series....a virtual nightmare to find in nice grades, and beginning in 1954 with Dell four color 596 then 656 , through Gold Key and finally to Whitman. What makes the series even harder to collect is the constant reprinting of previous issues, using a different cover each time. Aside from the later numbers where there can be found both Gold key and Whitman versions, nevermind the various price versions, or double covers. Somewhere I also kept a copy of that first issue from Valiant when they released it..but never had much use for the way they altered the character myself.
Mad respect for Turok collectors !!! Someday perhaps a movie or some decent action figs or maybe a new series placing him back to his origins


I'm not really a fan of the character, but I collected scans for a cover galley. I assume there are Canadian price variants, but I can't remember.


there are price variants between the 12 and 15 cent area timewise.....


I'm thinking there are some Canadian variants, but if so, I do not have cover scans.
I can't find cover scans for any 12¢/15¢ variants in my archive of scans.
I do have some scans for 15¢/20¢ variants.





Right...when prices went from 10-12 cents Turok jumped to 15 cents....but some went straight to 20 cents apparently too so voila variants
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I like this cover...




And there are some odd items like these...





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@Darkseid_of_town Those models are freaking awesome!!!! I love the Godzilla and Creature ones!!! But for straight up dinos, I LOVE the Ankylosaurus (I had to google how to spell it). That has benn my favorite dinosaur since I was a kid.
the models are a small sampling of what is here, but I love them all. Ironic you mention the Godzilla and creature pieces...those are still the original Aurora glow in the dark kits from when I was a kid....and they cost like 1.50 each. I had kept them all these years but they were broken up and super glued and badly painted. I sent them to Martin and he soaked them apart, removed all the glue and paint, rebuilt them and then painted them over nicely. Now they reside in a glass case so they are especially loved.

Ankylosaurus is an amazing animal...I am fascinated with all species of those, as well as Nodosaurids...multiple models....the sauropelta and Gargoyleosaurus were species my friend Ken Carpenter first published as well as mounting the holotype of garoyleosaurus in the Denver Museum of nature and science.
The upside down model is an Edmontia signed by sculpter now deceased Dan Larusso Final image is the underside of a sauropelta model signed by Ken Carpenter...along with his business card, backside with sketch and signature






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Those Aurora models are friggin' so cool! The Creature from the Black Lagoon is a beautifully detailed piece.
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I like this cover...




And there are some odd items like these...





collectors today puzzle me. These older turok comics featured many fully painted covers...already wider due to being golden age but then many of them were tri folds plus front and back cover of art ..the book I pictured has a tri fold cover for instance...but today's collectors will walk past these to buy blank sketch covers at a premium
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I'm not really a fan of the character. I trusted Jim Shooter to make him interesting, but otherwise an Indian hunting dinosaurs never interested me. I like the dinosaur pictures, but that's about all. I think I picked up a lot of the Valiant run for 10¢ a piece in bulk. I probably have about 20 of the Valiant Turok #1's. I bought multiples and a friend gave me the multiples he bought. I only have a couple of the issues scanned.





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Turok itself was basically a steal from an older story in Space Western #45. Other incarnations would.l be
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Turok hself was a direct steal from a story in Space Western #45. This same story type would then figure heavily in a movie called. Valley of the Gwangi. That was the dinosaur flick that put a young wide eyes kidmon a path to follow dinosaurs the rest of his life
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This one?



I've thought about collecting the short run. I do not own any, but I've been collecting Charlton scans.
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This one?



I've thought about collecting the short run. I do not own any, but I've been collecting Charlton scans.
yep. That's the book alright
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I don't think I've ever seen this issue in the wild. I like the covers on #41 & #44 the best.
http://charltoncomics.herobo.com/Space_Western_Comics/Space_Western_Comics.html
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45 is a nightmare to do ind because of the turok precursor
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45 is a nightmare to do ind because of the turok precursor


I haven't investigated whether the numbering was continued with another title.

I see now.
Cowboy Western Comics went from #17-#39
Space Western Comics went from #40-#45
Cowboy Western Comics returned as the title on #46
It became Cowboy Western Heroes for #47

Charlton was such a mess.
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that title is a mess for sure, so im glad the only book that I was directly after was the 45....but yeah that looks to be a horror story
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I was wondering why Cowboy Western has some issue numbers missing. Now it makes sense.
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