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CGC to CBCS, grading, and pressing question9158

Collector DarthHam private msg quote post Address this user
Hello,

I’ve received the following books as a birthday gift from my wife.

I’m new to this grading and pressing. Will these books benefit from a press? Unfortunately the grading notes from CGC are listed as coming soon.



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Collector oakcitycomics private msg quote post Address this user
ASM probably not, You have a corner blunt and looks like a 2 spin tik on the back one braking color
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Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
@DarthHam

May be wise to wait for the grader’s notes. The grader’s had these books in hand. Very difficult to assess from pictures.
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Collector DarthHam private msg quote post Address this user
@CaptainCanuck There lies the problem. My wife bought these books a few months ago and told me the grading notes have not been updated since. So I’m lost here on what I should do.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
2nd one has a corner dent top spine. visible back cover scan
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Collector KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
always good to look at them horizontally with light source from like the hall or something (i.e. crack the door to let the light in) to see if you can pick up any bends or indentations on the covers. If any exist a press will likely help a bit?
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
@DarthHam Graders notes are available but you have to purchase them. Also CGC graders note might not be too valuable as they typically are very short.

Given they are from your wife - why not just enjoy them!
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Collector oakcitycomics private msg quote post Address this user
@poka Yep and typically on books 9.4/9.6/9.8 there wont be graders notes unless the deductions came from interior pages. If all flaws are visible they typically wont note on high grades
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TRA LA LA esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@DarthHam - Nice books! Happy birthday (and isn't it nice to have a wife that supports and encourages your hobby?).
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Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
@DarthHam

Getting the other company’s grader’s notes before deciding on whether to send these off for pressing and re-grading is a no-brainer.
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Collector DarthHam private msg quote post Address this user
@poka @esaravo Thanks! Oh I’ve enjoyed them and showing them off to family that calls or comes by to say happy birthday. Yes she’s amazing and she actually pushes me to buy comics. I tend to be frugal when it comes to spending on comics
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Collector IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
Nothing is better than an in-hand examination by someone with experience with the grading companies. Pictures minimize many defects and exaggerate some. Graders notes are nothing more than what the graders felt like taking the time to write down.

To me, both look to be good pressing candidates. Since at 9.0 the ASM seems graded rather low based on the pictures, I pulled the grading notes. (You are welcome)

"multiple bend spine".

Crack, Press & resubmit (CPR) them. I think you'll be happy with the results. Just use someone that knows what they are doing for a press. Not someone that knows someone that lives nearby that has a press.
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Collector DarthHam private msg quote post Address this user
@IronMan When you said you obtained the grader notes I though you were joking. I went to the website trough my phone and it said “coming soon”. I’ve should’ve checked trough the computer instead. Wow I feel like a dumbass. Will buy the other grader notes now.


Thanks!!!!!
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
listen at what @IronMan is telling you, he's an expert. Wow, I wish I got presents like those from my wife!
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
The 9.0 could be bumped up to a 9.4.

The 9.4 could be bumped up to a 9.6.

Maybe. Hard to tell in those photos. Need to see angular lighting photos.
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Collector IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
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listen at what @IronMan is telling you, he's an expert. Wow, I wish I got presents like those from my wife!


DarthHam seems to have married well, didn't he?
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Collector etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user
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The 9.0 could be bumped up to a 9.4.


This is what I was thinking with some corner blunting, but I don't see anything else that a pressing wouldn't improve. Not sure on the other one. Also keep in mind the cost. Are you happy with the gifts? Then would $40+/book be worth it for what may be a negligible change in value? Or, do you just want some cool higher numbers regardless of cost?

Maybe hold onto them until there's a con you could get Campbell's sig witnessed and then do it all at once (crack, witness signature, press/clean for a yellow label)? Regardless, cool stuff and whatever you decide just make sure it makes you happy.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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The 9.0 could be bumped up to a 9.4.


This is what I was thinking with some corner blunting, but I don't see anything else that a pressing wouldn't improve. Not sure on the other one. Also keep in mind the cost. Are you happy with the gifts? Then would $40+/book be worth it for what may be a negligible change in value? Or, do you just want some cool higher numbers regardless of cost?

Maybe hold onto them until there's a con you could get Campbell's sig witnessed and then do it all at once (crack, witness signature, press/clean for a yellow label)? Regardless, cool stuff and whatever you decide just make sure it makes you happy.


I wouldnt do it unless you are planning to sell them, or you are obsessed with a number and what your wife gave you wasn’t good enough a gift.

And if it’s the latter, good luck explaining the reason you’re spending $40 extra dollars on the gift she just gave you because you’re not satisfied with it 😉. That usually does not go over well with the spouse from my experience!

But in all seriousness to answer your question, the defects have to be pressable for a chance for a grade bump. And that’s really hard to tell just looking through the plastic, and nearly impossible to tell from just a photograph taken at one angle of lighting.

And if you’re thinking if sending the book to cbcs than id say the odds of a grade reduction are as good as a grade hike even after a press.

There’s a reason I prefer to buy cbcs grades books and sell cgc graded books given the same number grade...

I say stick with what you have until you’re ready to sell and it’s with a $50 investment per book.
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Collector marvelfreak1313 private msg quote post Address this user
Question, I have a few books in cracked CGC slabs, and one in a PGX slab that I want CBCS to reslab. Do I send the whole slab in as is, or do I submit them cracked out of their slab with the label?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
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Question, I have a few books in cracked CGC slabs, and one in a PGX slab that I want CBCS to reslab. Do I send the whole slab in as is, or do I submit them cracked out of their slab with the label?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks


If they are yellow slabs and would like to keep them as yellow label do not crack them yourself.
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Collector marvelfreak1313 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by marvelfreak1313
Question, I have a few books in cracked CGC slabs, and one in a PGX slab that I want CBCS to reslab. Do I send the whole slab in as is, or do I submit them cracked out of their slab with the label?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks


If they are yellow slabs and would like to keep them as yellow label do not crack them yourself.


No they are all blue labels
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by SpiderTim
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Originally Posted by marvelfreak1313
Question, I have a few books in cracked CGC slabs, and one in a PGX slab that I want CBCS to reslab. Do I send the whole slab in as is, or do I submit them cracked out of their slab with the label?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks


If they are yellow slabs and would like to keep them as yellow label do not crack them yourself.


No they are all blue labels


I'm not sure if their is a cost for them cracking the books for you maybe someone might chime in on this.
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Collector xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
CBCS won't reslab another company's books, so you'll have to have them regraded. You can send them in the current slab without adding anything to the cost though; they'll crack them out for you.
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Collector marvelfreak1313 private msg quote post Address this user
AWESOME, Thanks for the help everyone. I'm not worried about them regrading, a couple of them I want pressed anyway, for hopes of a better grade.
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