In Extended Clip, Captain Marvel Is Revealed To Be A Villain9141
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth Hahahaha ... oh, man, you are SO reading into things. It's like everything you say is just a bundle of misogynistic animus. Bias much? Here's a hint: stop drawing conclusions based on interpretations with zero evidence. I know you do that as part of your religion, but it doesn't translate very well in the real world. |
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| @Tedsaid don't bring other post into this thread and don't try a petty attack on one's beliefs, that's pathetic. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth It's not an attack on your beliefs. Don't gaslight. Belief is about faith, not evidence (as you said in that other thread). It works there; it doesn't work here. |
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| @Tedsaid no evidence its feminism biased? The below are taken directly from the USA Today site that got the "exclusive" extended scene. No evidence?............ Author Brian Truitt also describes the exchange as Danvers “punch[ing] toxic masculinity right in the mouth.” “Watch Brie Larson totally own a dude in this exclusive ‘Captain Marvel’ video,” read the headline. The video is titled, “Exclusive, Brie Larson smiles for no man in ‘Captain Marvel’ scene.” They could have did without all the man bashing slurs in the titles. They could have simply stated "Exclusive Captain Marvel Scene" or something basic. |
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| We live in a world now in 2019 where all we can do is pick apart dialog from a sci-fi movie and argue talking points over things none of us have any control over. I didn't make the movies. I didn't direct them or star in them. What do I care? None of this should really matter to any of you. It's a fantastical science fiction movie about elaborate plot points that would never happen in reality or our existence. It's supposed to be fun and entertaining enough for us to forget about our daily problems and escape for 2 or 3 hours of pure excitement and thrills. Are you not excited and thrilled? Or would you rather just argue it over with a bunch of strangers you've never met on the Internet? | ||
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| @kaptainmyke your right Mike. Thanks for taking time to set us straight. (Most of us that have common sense will listen to your advice.) Yeah, I'm done with this thread. It's getting toxic. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth Yes, that's right: no evidence. There is no evidence that Captain Marvel "Doesn't like men to begin with." Just your assertion. Also, for the record, you keep pointing to someone else's assertion as evidence. That's not what "evidence" means. Please, do yourself a favor, and look up the term "feminism." It is painfully clear you don't have a clue what that means. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Is the internet for something else? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk Yep sharing pics of comic books we own  |
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| I find the writing and portrayal of her character to be shallow and pedantic. | ||
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| @Studley_Dudley is that a family guy reference? | ||
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| @bige31 it is, but I also don't like the character. I rewatched Endgame and that confirmed it for me. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Tedsaid Viewed by a new generation of people (including pre-teens who are still developing intellectually, with adult children for parents incapable and/or unwilling to properly guide them) who are far more impressionable I think, and with far less common sense than in the past. Is it THE scene that represents the conflict? No. It also isn't the scene that takes a first step in rising above the conflict, leading by example. I guess they [all] feel that's the 'next person's' job. I'm not personally affected by this whatsoever, but I am disheartened that the enlightenment required is still a ways off. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley FYI, they wrote and filmed Endgame before Captain Marvel. So they really didn't have a handle on her character yet, when they put her in that movie. They didn't have any of the backstory or motivation. Brie Larson or the directors didn't know much about who she was when she did those scenes for Endgame. That said, I think Brie Larson is pretty weak as an actress. It was really noticeable when she shared the screen with some real outstanding actors, such as Annette Bening or Jude Law. She wasn't terrible. But she wasn't really giving it the good stuff, either. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town I agree it's harmless if the ladies want "their moment" and unite as they did in the scene I believe you're mentioning, but that's different from the linked article, and main topic of discussion. No one I know cheers on a guy hurting and threatening a woman with dismemberment, which is much worse and outrageous than a group of guys giving each other high fives. It wouldn't be okay if a man reacted to a woman's "glare" at the scuba comment the way she did to his 'smile' comment. That would cause a big uproar among viewers, especially if he were a "hero". I don't see how switching the genders around makes it any less wrong. |
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| Myself I see it all as more a reaction to Brie Larsons public statements than the scene itself....when you go back and watch movies like Electra, Iron man 2,(black Widow) or even the Aliens movies with Signourey Weaver you see many scenes where a woman is rude or manages to intimidate or outdo a male figure...ts gone for years in dozens of movies....Watch helas character in Ragnarok….she isn't exactly cordial nor polite to men.....I guess I am missing the point. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth So what if there is a scene that can be interpreted as having a feminist bias? Calling one event driven scene an "agenda" is a stretch, especially since there's a plethora of inarguably biased testosterone dominated scenes displaying male arrogance in countless films. Male critics with their own agendas never seem to get their panties in a bunch over male dominance in movies. For instance, early Bond films are very sexist portrayals, but we love watching Sean Connery's macho embodiment as a super-spy anyway. Why not give women of this era the same opportunity to dominate and behave badly in action roles? The point being that if it's okay for the goose, then it oughta be okay for the gander. One of the best examples I can come up with of the past few years is the Cold War action film Atomic Blonde. This may not be your cuppa, but from my perspective smart, powerful female leads deserve the same attention and respect as their male counterparts. Your beliefs are what they are, but in the larger scheme of things it isn't up to guys to classify women by agendas or appropriateness. For instance, if you're offended by the "Me Too" movement or women demanding equality across the board, that's your right. Heck, I'm sure there's a MEN ONLY golf club or militia that would bend over backwards to welcome you with open arms. One final point. Back in the early days of film Our Gang comedies had a running gag with the "He-Man Woman Haters Club" organized by pre-pubescent boys to exclude girls, who were presumed weak and stupid, but obviously smarter. Today, it would appear that some of those lads have grown to adulthood retaining those misguided adolescent values. |
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| I thought the "moment shot" of the ladies was foreshadowing an A-Force formation type situation. | ||
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| In an alternate reality the creep turns out to be The Beyonder trying to experience human life by flirting with an attractive example of this planet's female humans. “Nice scuba suit,” The Beyonder says jokingly. Danvers glares at him and goes back to her map. The Beyonder suddenly grabs her by the head, driving her to her knees, thumbs poised at her eyes and says, "Tell you what. you give me a smile, and I let you keep your glaring eyes." My reaction would be far more than it is for the linked scene, and I think it would be the same for the majority of anyone seeing it. Especially women. But in the true spirit of equality it shouldn't. The true spirit of equality says both scenarios are equally wrong. So, I feel this is a poor example of empowering towards equality. But like I said, that's for the NEXT filmmaker to tackle. |
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| If a 10 year old girl who is a BIG fan of Captain Marvel sees this scene and cheers her hero on, should her parents explain the reality of such a situation, like responsible caregivers, or encourage the behavior like those asshole parents years ago who gave their toddler son and daughter boxing gloves and encouraged them to settle their toddler differences "in the ring"? True equality has to start somewhere, and sometime. And it's always the next guy's job to start. Of course, if the problem IS ever solved, they'll expect a big chunk of the credit. |
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| @Studley_Dudley haha I know a family guy reference when I see one lol. Yeah I think she was a little forced into the movies. She should of showed up in the next phase. Cuz she kept touting that she was the strongest character and she got her butt handed to her. She had zero impact on the outcome other than destroying that ship. | ||
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| I really take issue with that summary honestly. She did take Iron Man to earth and without that the entire story falls apart so...she very directly affected the outcome immediately.No Iron man no snap...and Thanos wins. I kind of get where they are going with her I think...shes signed for like five more movies and we will watch as her character develops....remember what a jerk Stark was in the first iron man movie for instance? I honestly feel Marvel had to cope with the superman paradox in this movie using her....as powerful as she is, she could have probably done things by herself but why have an avengers movie then...they had to find a line between power and ruining the story so they curtailed her quite a bit I think.Time will tell though |
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Quote:Originally Posted by bige31 Like Indiana Jones and the entire plot to Raiders of the Lost Ark. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Now that is a rather astute observation right there. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke I liked Iron Man from the start. |
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| Gana you really could start your own blog. Besides there’s only one man she like. Rodey | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke A perfect correlation. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSothWow, if only someone who read that article early on could have seen this coming as the only potential outcome of what was shared and pointed it out...Oh, wait, I did that and was accused of stuff. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by southerncross Oh yeah. |
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