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	Quote: Originally Posted by Buzbe Better ? What going on with new X-Men titles? The last X-Men titles I bought were during Age of Apocalypse. Anything after that I learn from the MCU lol
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	The House of X is supposed to be hot or something like that. But I haven't really looked into it.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by GanaSoth The House of X is supposed to be hot or something like that. But I haven't really looked into it. I'm SHOCKED!! Oh wait, is that a comic title?
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Collector 9.66K	9.66K GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@MR_SigS I know right! Sounds like it should be rated Mature only.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 75.22K	75.22K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 6
	Quote: Originally Posted by NoahSult I know what Steve said and I maintain that this is not a conversation for a forum owned by a comic book grading company. I mean we can always run it up to the higher ups in the company and see what they think. Let them decide was is appropriate here. It's great that you maintain that. When you own/moderate your own forum feel free to dictate the topics. Until then we'll let these moderators and Executive decide....and it looks like they're ok with it, so thanks.
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If I could, I would. I swear. 54.34K	54.34K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 4
	Most anything is "allowed" here conversation wise. The threads are then watched to see who can handle adult conversation and who can't. Little action is taken until someone proves themselves to be verbally incontinent. After that, moderation discusses among themselves and takes whatever actions are necessary. Just my two cents based on observation.
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	Certainly not a topic for everyone.
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I'll probably wake up constipated. 19.86K	19.86K Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 6
	It's sad that a topic such as this cannot be approached with tact, diplomacy, and understanding,... as opposed to criticism and ridicule. Which only goes to show that the human race needs leadership,.. whether it's the president of a country or a forum moderator,.. leadership is a basic need.
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If I could, I would. I swear. 54.34K	54.34K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 6
	Quote: Originally Posted by MR_SigS Certainly not a topic for everyone. As is bound to happen. I've never understood why someone clicks on a thread and comments on something that holds no interest for them or that they find distasteful. It costs zero dollars to worry about yourself.
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	@DrWatson Agreed. If it's a topic of no interest, take a hard pass and move on.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 75.22K	75.22K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	or even worse, threaten to tattletail, lol!
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	@GAC Quote: Originally Posted by GAC or even worse, threaten to tattletail, lol! There was a fellow on here a couple of years ago who was reporting sooo many threads. Locks were being handed out like it was a self-storage center.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck @GAC Quote: Originally Posted by GAC or even worse, threaten to tattletail, lol! There was a fellow on here a couple of years ago who was reporting sooo many threads. Locks were being handed out like it was a self-storage center. Was, as in no longer here?
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	@MR_SigS Quote: Originally Posted by MR_SigS Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck @GAC Quote: Originally Posted by GAC or even worse, threaten to tattletail, lol! There was a fellow on here a couple of years ago who was reporting sooo many threads. Locks were being handed out like it was a self-storage center. Was, as in no longer here? Ya, gone. Moved on or got banned. Not sure which.
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	Kind of sounds like CopperAgeKids. He got booted.
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Collector 14.3K	14.3K Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	I think it better not to have topics that cannot be discussed. That is how society has become so dysfunctional ....suppression of ideas and thoughts in particular directed at science and reason and logic Despite living in an age where we can clone animals and cure diseases...we can visit the bottom of the oceans and land robotic vehicles on other planets ..we have sectors of the population who deny Earth is round or we can visit our own Moon and others who beliveve vaccines can trigger autism. The only way to end ignorance and get all of humankind working towards common purposes is expose and educate rather than censor and hide What I feel would be more useful is the enforcement of no personal or ad hominem attacks. Responding within a thread to a post isn't an attack until it becomes centered around the person not the issue regardless if you disagree with or comment against someone else's ideals or views. Attack the issue not the person..or raise your points not your voice. That is how intelligent people debate and discuss. Sadly there are a few who trample that line into the dust. Anything you offer that contradicts their view is called an attack and they douse themselves in victim paint as they make repeated PERSONNAL attacks ....slippery slope but a necessary one. Just my two.cents
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town I think it better not to have topics that cannot be discussed. That is how society has become so dysfunctional ....suppression of ideas and thoughts in particular directed at science and reason and logic Not sure I understand- Are you saying you personally think it's better not to have topics that cannot be discussed, and are protesting the suppression of ideas and thoughts? Or am I reading it wrong?
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	You are correct, awful wording on my part there using a double negative as well. Let me clarify...and thanks for the opportunity to restate. I believe people should have freedom to discuss what they like here within fair reason of course...a friendly discussion of ideals, reasons and logic is everything to a civil people and how progress is made. Everyone has a different set of experiences to add to the discussion...and insights that people can often learn from. It is my ideal progress can be made if logic is applied and the rules of logic always used...what I oppose are the ad hominem personal attacks, the erecting of straw man arguments and belittling of others rather than their ideals or thoughts. Attack the belief or ideal rather than the person....or raise your points vs your voice .. Some follow their emotions and beliefs to determine their facts and others use the facts to determine their beliefs...for me logic and reason are central to any form of understanding. To thoroughly appreciate those rules of logic go back through the thread and see how many you can spot in play...very illuminating
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Pre_Coder It's sad that a topic such as this cannot be approached with tact, diplomacy, and understanding,... as opposed to criticism and ridicule. Which only goes to show that the human race needs leadership,.. whether it's the president of a country or a forum moderator,.. leadership is a basic need. I appreciate this comment Coder, well well stated.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Pre_Coder It's sad that a topic such as this cannot be approached with tact, diplomacy, and understanding,... as opposed to criticism and ridicule. Which only goes to show that the human race needs leadership,.. whether it's the president of a country or a forum moderator,.. leadership is a basic need. I appreciate this comment Coder, very well stated.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town I choose the science and the evidence over the myth. You keep putting down other people beliefs in negative ways by calling it myths, yet your belief is just as mythical. You like to mix fact with fiction, as most evolutionist do. To put this too rest (cause I'm tired of the back & forth) I'll ask you for an answer to a simple question. The Science theory: All life came from nothing, since nothing exploded, (and an explosion is chaos not order) then created matter, (water, stardust, rocks) then the mud/ooze, food for the ooze, air etc. This is the start of life as we know it. Common Sense thought: Where did all that come from? Everything comes from somewhere, a creator/maker. "Nothing" can't create because it's, well, nothing... Can't be nothing. (Simple science and laws of physics debunk that.) The Question: "What was the "something" that started it all?" PS: we don't need a book or wall of text. If you can't handle that simple question I'll go even simpler next time. PSS: I'm traveling due to work. I'll get back when I can. Thanks.
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Collector 4.03K	4.03K VaComicsGuy private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Here's the thing about planting a flag in a position that is wholly based in science and leaves no room for any change or understanding that what is currently believed could be wrong. Science KNEW for a fact that the earth was flat Science KNEW for a fact that the Earth was the center of the galaxy Science KNEW that blood contained evil spirits and about a million other things that science KNEW but we now believe the exact opposite A family friend (highly accomplished research scientist) sums it up best: "Science is simply our best guess based upon the knowledge and technology that we currently have. It is always subject to change. When we think otherwise, we are no longer scientists" If you Don't think that we are still having scientific "oops, what we've believed and and known to be fact turns out to be wrong" moments even in this age, you need to do some more research. Pluto, Brontosaurus, Dinosaur feathers. . .
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	Quote: Originally Posted by VaComicsGuy Here's the thing about planting a flag in a position that is wholly based in science and leaves no room for any change or understanding that what is currently believed could be wrong. Science KNEW for a fact that the earth was flat Science KNEW for a fact that the Earth was the center of the galaxy Science KNEW that blood contained evil spirits and about a million other things that science KNEW but we now believe the exact opposite A family friend (highly accomplished research scientist) sums it up best: "Science is simply our best guess based upon the knowledge and technology that we currently have. It is always subject to change. When we think otherwise, we are no longer scientists" If you Don't think that we are still having scientific "oops, what we've believed and and known to be fact turns out to be wrong" moments even in this age, you need to do some more research. Pluto, Brontosaurus, Dinosaur feathers. . . and that is precisely the issue with people who fail to understand scientific process...there is no "planting of any flag" I have literally typed this a dozen times above but science is the process of forming the best possible answer to meet all evidence until such time as further evidence is presented....get that? until further evidence is presented. Science is not about flag planting, that is religion..creating rules that cannot be questioned and claims that cannot be validated . Science is always willing to accept new evidence and offer a new conclusion ...your family friend summed it up PERFECTLY....science offers the best possible and most likely true answer given all the information until something more is known and a new conclusion is formed....not sure where you get flag planting and the rest out of that but yes that is how science works and always has....which is why you drive a car, and have vaccines and lighted and conditioned home and are able to eat a million different foods without planting or killing anything...science. I also hate to break it to you but Brontosaurus has been validated once more and considered a valid species....as for feathers on dinosaurs, science has known that valuable little tidbit of information since the 70's but the public...far more susceptible to flag planting has refused to accept it largely until the past dozen years.
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Hmm, I'm having issues with the end-quote. Sorry for my responses ending up in the quotes.Quote:

Originally Posted by GanaSoth
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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
I choose the science and the evidence over the myth.

You keep putting down other people beliefs in negative ways by calling it myths, yet your belief is just as mythical. You like to mix fact with fiction, as most evolutionist do.

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He isn't but you keep claiming this as a way to disregard the science being shared.

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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town

To put this too rest (cause I'm tired of the back & forth) I'll ask you for an answer to a simple question.

Situation you created.

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The Science theory:
All life came from nothing, since nothing exploded, (and an explosion is chaos not order) then created matter, (water, stardust, rocks) then the mud/ooze, food for the ooze, air etc. This is the start of life as we know it.Common Sense thought:
Where did all that come from? Everything comes from somewhere, a creator/maker. "Nothing" can't create because it's, well, nothing... Can't be nothing. (Simple science and laws of physics debunk that.)

First, that's not the theory. You're posing a biased question based on ignorance of the science. This is a common misunderstanding for people with no physics background, which I'm assuming is you as your statements show no familiarity with the science. You can feel to do your own research on Standard Theory (or sometimes referred to as the Standard Model) in Physics.

The answer to your mis-stated question is part of the excitement that exists regarding the Cern supercollider research in their search for (which by the way they have found the boson...like 6 years ago) the Higgs boson. In the Standard Model each of the major forces has an associated particle. Gravity is transmitted via a graviton, light via photons etc... There was still an issue, though, the issue of mass and the associated particle as mass isn't a force. To accumulate mass, you'd need a "source" of the mass and a particle capable of accumulating it to form matter with mass (not all matter has mass, see electrons as they move as waves). The Higgs field (think of it as a dimension composed entirely of mass, though this is a gross oversimplification) is the source of the mass and there is a boson (one of several) then responsible for "transmitting" mass (read as accumulating). This theorized particle was thought to be possible in detection by taking very heavy elements and colliding them in a way as to send out these fundemental particles. To be the Higgs boson, the particle would need no electrical charge, 0 spin and 0 colour (these words do not mean what you think). Because this particle is responsible for mass, it's been called (NOT defined by scientists, but not they sometimes use due to popular vernacular, which they should not do) as the God particle. This is the simplest way to describe this, but does not entail all details/knowledge we have about the Higgs boson.

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I choose the science and the evidence over the myth.

PS: we don't need a book or wall of text. If you can't handle that simple question I'll go even simpler next time.

PSS: I'm traveling due to work. I'll get back when I can. Thanks.

There is no way to simplify complex science the way you keep requesting, but I have no doubt you choose to skim instead of read. This technique, along with continually claiming people providing scientific answers to your questions are condescending is your way to use passive aggressive insults to hope they stop challenging your uninformed comments and, I'm guessing, hope that by claiming to be a victim get forum moderators on those who are doing exactly what you keep asking them to do. Which is to provide the scientific answer to these questions you continue to pose...and then disregard because you don't understand it.

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I choose the science and the evidence over the myth.

PSS: I'm traveling due to work. I'll get back when I can. Thanks.

Cool, safe travels.

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	I will respond a final time on this topic Gana, and I hope it meets your ....demands. You have stated yet again untruly I spend my efforts "putting down " in negative ways peoples beliefs by calling them myths. I have offered evidence in an unending stream that directly contradicts assertions you have made. This is not "putting anything down in a negative way" It is a direct response to misinformation you have posted or offered. You feel that having your beliefs called a myth is an insult...here is the literal definition of myth according to wiki...."Myth is a folklore genre consisting of narratives or stories that play a fundamental role in a society, such as foundational tales or origin myths. The main characters in myths are usually gods, demigods or supernatural humans.[1][2][3] Stories of everyday human beings, although often of leaders of some type, are usually contained in legends, as opposed to myths. " That definition perfectly and accurately describes the things you have thrown out as your ideals or beliefs. Notice the term myth has no negative nor derogatory meaning assigned to it...only your own ego has done so. " The Science theory: All life came from nothing, since nothing exploded, (and an explosion is chaos not order) then created matter, (water, stardust, rocks) then the mud/ooze, food for the ooze, air etc. This is the start of life as we know it. Common Sense thought: Where did all that come from? Everything comes from somewhere, a creator/maker. "Nothing" can't create because it's, well, nothing... Can't be nothing. (Simple science and laws of physics debunk that.) That is your direct quote..right out the gate you started with a false dichotonmy . You asked to choose between science and common sense as if your own version is more sensible....you literally are attempting to argue an idea based on the concept yours MUST be right....do you get that? Lets look at your science theory first....all life came from nothing since nothing exploded etc etc etc …. The reason your argument fails before it starts here is quite basic...you ASSUME you know the beginning state of anything...that all came from nothing and nothing exploded etc. Science has never said there was nothing and nothing exploded...we don't know and neither does anyone else....everything may have been a solid mass, or a cloud of gas or anything else...you are assuming conditions you cannot establish from the outset. As for nothing exploding...you do understand that explosions can occur from expansion, heat, electrical sources, gaseous causes etc....how do you know "nothing exploded"....you do not...you have erected a straw man argument for pre existing condtionts that you can then sit and pick and tear at....transparent, painfully obvious and rather oddly chosen.Science has never suggested what the beginning was, what did or did not explode and how it all happened....what science has established with evidence is the big bang is still occurring...we can measure and see the universe expanding using our telescopes and satellites ….we KNOW the big bang is ongoing an factual because it has not ended yet. As for your magical ooze, another straw man you have created and whipped to death..do you know life was not a condition prior to the event called the big bang? Can you prove that there was no building blocks of life present in the primordial bubbling mud as you call it to start with? No of course you cannot and no one else can either. Even then that isn't the start of"life as we know it" ...it was the beginning of single celled organisms that would then spend millions of years advancing to become …"life as we know it" Now your theory....I will call it response B since you named it so unbiasedly.... Common Sense thought: Where did all that come from? Everything comes from somewhere, a creator/maker. "Nothing" can't create because it's, well, nothing... Can't be nothing. (Simple science and laws of physics debunk that.) Response b states everything comes from somewhere, Nothing cant create because its well nothing...simple physics...so in turn where did god come from? nothing can come from nothing and all things must have a creator...and guess what...you don't get to use special pleading to create extra dimensions that also came from nothing and magical beings that also came from nothing...your entire pretense destroyed itself before you even typed it...and can be summarized as... All things must be created...who created god then...no one god has always been and doesn't require a creator...a self defeating circular logic loop ……..arguing god has always been or always will be is a fail...justify your physics laws you just slammed on the table for the entire universe to obey …..
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	WEird, tried to edit and it made a duplicate post...
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	Thanks for sharing that information Etapi...especially the part about how much work and time it takes to type out complex science spanning hundreds of years and involving dozens of disciplines. Someone at least gets it, thank you
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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
. . .until such time as further evidence is presented....get that?

and that "evidence" could be anything including the existence of a God or a wizard behind a curtain telling you to ignore him or nothing at all. ...Get that? Apparently you don't because you seem to firmly entrenched in a God doesn't exist, science is the best and most likely way position. Seems that true science would at least allow for the possibility.

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. . . that is religion..creating rules that cannot be questioned . . .

Can't speak about anyone else but I'm all about questioning everything including religion. Some of the most religious people I know struggle with their beliefs on an almost daily basis. Not everyone believes things blindly.

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. . .your family friend summed it up PERFECTLY....science offers the best possible and most likely true answer given all the information until something more is known and a new conclusion is formed

Um, Ok. but that's not even remotely close to what she said. she said it's a guess. You changed "a guess" to "the best possible and most likely true answer."

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science offers the best possible and most likely true answer

How about another family guy reference. That answer insists upon itself. science is the best possible answer according to . . . ? According to people that believe that science is the best possible and most likely answer. Lots of people disagree with that sentiment, including the list of 11 Nobel laureates and other world renown scientists I listed earlier. Are they wrong? Do they not understand science?

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. . . I also hate to break it to you but Brontosaurus has been validated once more and considered a valid species.

I hate to break it to you but my point that you apparently missed is how often science is wrong and reverses course. Science Knew brontosaurus existed, then oops it didn't, then it did again but in different genus, then didn't, now does again. question: which of those should I have believed? The point: Scientific knowledge is wrong quite often. Is it possible, even remotely that scientific knowledge is wrong about some religions and religious beliefs?

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. . as for feathers on dinosaurs, science has known that valuable little tidbit of information since the 70's . .

Um, science doesn't know this at all in fact several prominent paleontologists currently disagree about this. which scientist should I believe?

Science is not a thing, It's a process that is used to explore the unknown. Any unknown.
I've already said that I have no problem with anyone believes or doesn't believe. I do have a problem with people saying we should "believe" the science. I haven't stated what I personally believe. I'm simply pointing out that real science and scientists allow for at least the possibility of the unknown, including the existence of a divine being, Creator, Entity. . .

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	Keeping it comic related.
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