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With the huge increase of a "Cameo" issue, do you think other cameos will follow suit?   If so, then Web of Spider-man #18, 1ST VENOM CAMEO may be a good prospect. Any thoughts?  |
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| I've been waiting for years. I have 10 copies for some reason lol. Oh, and cameo, shmameo. First appearance is a first appearance, regardless of how big it is. Are some really lame? You bet (Darkseid)- but if a character is seen for the 1st time in a comic book story before any other comic story, then how can it be anything other than a first appearance? Is 181 still THE one to own? The Market says 'yes'. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Unless some ass**** sells them out of the warehouse six months from now because they have a ton left over that no one ordered. I know one or two sellers on eBay that are pretty suspicious with those incentive ratios. One guy I saw a few months ago was selling 1:1000 and 1:2000 ratios like they're candy. No way one guy legit has ~20 copies of a 1:2000 ratio. Who the hell could order 40,000 copies of one comic? Maybe the 1:50 ratio is safer. More people get copies to begin with, and less of the value is due to artificial restrictions on supply. So there's less room for a bad actor to kill the value by sticking a few extra copies on eBay. But still, ratios can be dangerous. Especially Marvel ratios. |
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| clickable text Only $1,000,000 and it could be yours!  |
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| Wtf? | ||
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| What would someone have paid to have that done at the time? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Enelson Is this a good read? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MR_SigS I think it has less to do about cameo vs. full appearance than what’s on the cover. If the covers of hulk 180 and 181 were swapped 180 would be the book to own of the two. I can’t think of a cameo that has the character on the cover at the moment though. Much less one that is followed by a full appearance the following issue with the character NOT on the cover. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio Closest one I can think of is Captain Marvel 17, which I believe is just a cameo of Kamala Khan in the book itself, but has her first appearance in costume on the cover for the second printing. |
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| @moodswing - yes, Bone Parish is a good read. My review: https://comicbookinvest.com/2018/07/29/the-reading-pile-week-5/#boneparish |
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| Books I am betting see some uptick are Mister Miracle first series issues 4 and 6 ….4 being first Barda and issue six the first female Furies. I also think the Mattina cover Female Furies 1 is a good hedge bet...as well as the Brave and bold issue 33, with Zatanna, Wonder woman and Barbara Gordon....I also like the first SP/DR in spiderverse, and Supergirl 5 from the 70's series with Zatannas origin reprinted faithfully. Also spec betting on Immortal hulk 12, 17 and 18 as potential hitters... Of course TOS 52 is golden right now and I think ASM 86 is following suit... |
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| Does Gambit appear on the cover of x men annual 14 his first true appearance ? I know on X-Men 266 he is on the cover and all over the book.... | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town No. Yes.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing @moodswing yes. It's excellent, and it keeps you guessing about what will happen. It has some great horror moments in it too. |
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| I also think Shang-Chi is going to be HUGE. He will be the first Asian Marvel superhero leading a film and I think that the box office will be massive and all his books will spike. If you look at films like Crazy Rich Asians killing at the American box office and then the fact that China has such a huge impact on films I bet it will be massive...providing they don't screw it up, which is always possible. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio How about Teen Titans #12? First appearance of The Batman Who Laughs? I don't remember exactly, but I think his appearance in the comic is very brief, more akin to a cameo than a full appearance. But he's on the cover of the main issue. This also supports your claim about the importance of the cover appearance (which I agree with). The B variant cover does not have Chuckles Batman. As a consequence, the A cover is about $450 in 9.8, while the B cover is maybe only $200. |
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| I agree, Cover appearance on cover A beats a noncover appearance cover B | ||
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| Wait till they announce a Naomi movie. lol. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by obrie2tm I wasn’t necessarily referring to 2nd prints, but those work too, or at least are another statistic. Let’s take a look at an unusual one: Thanos 15 (4th print), Thanos 16 (2nd print) and Thanos 17 (shop variant homage). Thanos 15 may be the first appearance of the black surfer (fallen one)...still tbd but that’s word in the lands of speculation. I will check but I believe it’s a last page cameo. 1st print has some value as the reveal/origin of the cosmic ghost rider...but the 4th printing has black surfer on the cover and commands a higher price right now. Issue 16 would be the first full black surfer, and the 2nd print also has Black Surfer on the cover but doesn’t go for much more than cover price. I’ll have to check but this 2nd print may have come out before the 4th print of #15. And then there’s the shop variant homage cover to 17. Has the black surfer on the cover and predates all reprints above....but no significance from a first appearance perspective (goes for $15-$20, trade dress which is what it originally cost). Anyway, in this case the first appearance (cameo) with the character on the cover wins, even despite it being the 4th print of that issue and may have been released last chronologically...although it’s print run is likely more scarce than the others which may also factor in too... it I’d have to look into it. Look at the first appearance of the rescue armor. 2nd print with the armor not even on POTTS, but is shown on the cover. And inside it’s a cameo appearance. 2nd print commands more than the first print and first full appearances in issue #12. The 1st cover appearance (by issue number, not release date) rules when the character is in the interior it seems. Edit: Thanos 15 4th prt came out May 23rd. Thanos 17 2nd print was the one that had the black su fee cover (not 16) and it came out a month prior (4/20). Also confirmed The black surfer had a full pag cameo only last pag. |
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| I just read that Naomi #1 2nd print had under 1000 issues...not sure the validity, but that a pretty damn low print run. | ||
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| Naomi #1 1st print - 25,252 Naomi #1 2nd print - 3,664 Naomi #1 3rd print - 894 Naomi #2 - 15,838 Naomi #3 - 14,691 Source: https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-01.html |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Yoosh5492 It’s DC so not likely but maybe part in a Superman movie - who knows |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster If they do, I don't think it will be as dramatic as Hulk 180/181 because I don't think there are other "cameo"/"1st Full" appearances that really compare in terms of the "Full" value. ASM 299/300 and 360/361 are other examples, but ASM 300 & 361 aren't quite Hulk 181, with 300 being even less so because Venom doesn't appear on the cover. Now if someday 300 & 361 skyrocket out of reach the way Hulk 181 has, I think many people will gravitate toward 299 & 360 the way they are Hulk 180. Or; if everyone suddenly feels the first named appearance of any size in a comic book story is the 1st appearance, whether the next full appearance or 1st cover appearance is more desirable[valuable] or not. |
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| Speaking of cameos and first appearances, these seem to have have cooled down quite a bit. First cameo of Ultron:  First appearance of Ultron:  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke So, how does the low print run of the 3rd print affect value? |
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| It doesn't. It's perceived value. | ||
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Low print runs build hype. Demand makes the value spike. People take notice and a brand new character and get tons of attention and interest. The character gets an option for movie or TV show and a star is born. |
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