Major X's first/cameo appearance??8759
 Collector
|
kevinlmillard private msg quote post Address this user | |
I have a question for the moderators on this one. What is CBCS going to consider Major X's first appearance? He appeared on the cover oDeadpool #10 on a Liefeld exclusive. Yesterday in Major X #1, Now it has come out that he is in the background in Spider-man Deadpool #10 a couple weeks ago. So what will CBCS mark these appearances as?   |
||
| Post 1 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The way Liefeld is behaving I am amazed there are still people who likes his work. | ||
| Post 2 • IP flag post | ||
 Moderator
|
Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user | |
I'd imagine that CBCS will side with Rob. They usually respect the artist wishes. Plus, it sounds like DP 10 came out before Spider-Man/DP 47. I'm just speaking from my viewpoint and I don't know the official CBCS position. |
||
| Post 3 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Cover appearances do not count as a first appearance | ||
| Post 4 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| never ever sign a single copy....is that supposed to be like the ultimate threat comes off very egotistical and childish... | ||
| Post 5 • IP flag post | ||
 I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
|
Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Deadpool 10 not first appearance. Maybe first cover yes but that’s it. | ||
| Post 6 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Just read this fb if you wish to have a laugh. You get blocked by Liefeld if you like the wrong post https://www.facebook.com/1784579275187219/posts/2150480821930394?sfns=mo |
||
| Post 7 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Frontier2Xterra private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Garbage character from a garbage “creator”. | ||
| Post 8 • IP flag post | ||
 COLLECTOR
|
Wolverine private msg quote post Address this user | |
| God he is such a doucebag | ||
| Post 9 • IP flag post | ||
 COLLECTOR
|
shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Tries to cash in in the first appearance market with an exclusive for $100 on his site. Doesnt understand the concept of cameo/1st full. Flips out when the market wants 47 over his exclusive, yet beither are first full and all his is a first cover. LOL | ||
| Post 10 • IP flag post | ||
 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
|
xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
| What gets marked as Gwenpool's first appearance? Seems like it would be a similar situation. | ||
| Post 11 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So a Cable clone and a deadpool clone appear in a comic Nothing new here. Just desperate grasps at a dying idea |
||
| Post 12 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Paulbg2000 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I can understand Mr. Liefeld's irritation, you get back into the spotlight with the Deadpool movie coming out (While we all know how much he actually contributed to the modern character) debuting a new character for Marvel and you get scooped on your own creation...that being said, he doesn't have to be such an ass about it. It seems like it was an honest mistake and unintentional, I checked my Spider-Man Deadpool 47 and I had to look REALLY...REALLY hard to find Major X in there. I completely missed it on the first read. Matt Horak is going to be at NFCC in June, wonder if he'll be willing to sign SMDP 47?! LOL |
||
| Post 13 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O Really because The Batman who laughs first appears in Dark Knights Metal 2 according to the creator |
||
| Post 14 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Hcanes private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I looked through Spider-Man/Deadpool 47 and could not locate the supposed Major X cameo. If anyone here has seen it and has an image I would be interested in seeing it. It felt like "where's waldo" trying to find it. | ||
| Post 15 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
kevinlmillard private msg quote post Address this user | |
I see this as just a quick money grab for people on ebay, kind of like Hawkeye vs Deadpool #0. First Spier-Gwen debate. It will be hot for the weekend then die off. Rob takes a lot of heat from people, but I can tell you after meeting him a few times he is one of the nicest people I've met at the cons.  |
||
| Post 16 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
bythegram private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Hcanes  I have no dog in this fight. Could really careless about this character |
||
| Post 17 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
Hcanes private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kevinlmillard If I recall correctly, this was also perpetrated, long after it had died, by that app. |
||
| Post 18 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
MarcJ private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm not sure how the creator has a say in what is the first appearance?? If a publisher printed something with that character in another series before the primary series ran, then that would be the first appearance as maybe a cameo. First full appearance would be the story that actually has the character. Just being on a cover is NOT a first appearance but a first cover appearance. In my opinion (which nobody cares about), CBCS needs to become a fully legitimate grading company by not cow-tailing to creator's whims. This bullshit with creator's saying "you can't witness my signature unless you work for xyz company", for example, is crazy Take a look over at PCGS for coin grading. You think they care a wit about what a mint says about a coin/bill. They will grade it from their professional perspective. Imagine the estate of George Washington saying they couldn't grade anything with his likeness. They would just laugh at how ridiculous that sounds. The comic grading companies allowing this pissing contest stuff is just hurting the legitimacy of the business. If you have someone authorized to witness a signature, then its valid if a creator signed in front of them and has zero bearing based on what the creator thinks or has to say. First appearances are what the industry standard says it is, not what a creator says it is. Be a grading company and do it well and relegate all that crap to the background noise. |
||
| Post 19 • IP flag post | ||
 COLLECTOR
|
JLS_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm not sure who is more at "fault" here, Liefeld or Marvel. Marvel asks Rob to create a new character and book so he makes them a NEW character knowing full well they will own the rights to said character. Then Marvel reaches out to the creative team of a different book (Spider-man / Deadpool) and says "Hey, here's a new character Rob made" so they use it. So then Rob counters with a LiefeldCreations exclusive to be released before that. But it's cover appearance only. Do cover appearances without in-story appearance now count? What will happen to Gwenpool? Can creators determine 1st appearances or is it left up to the market? Would it be considered a cameo or a full 1st? Seems like this is how it would go: 1st Cameo, 1st cover, 1st Full |
||
| Post 20 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
Paulbg2000 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| ....anyone think this could all be a marketing gimic to drive up publicity for the character launch? | ||
| Post 21 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
Hcanes private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The first cover app of Gwenpool goes for a fair amount, but I feel that one was not forced like Major X. The Gwenpool cover started as a joke and then fandom ran with it. Marvel then figured they had something and developed the character. | ||
| Post 22 • IP flag post | ||
|
COLLECTOR
|
JLS_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Happy birthday @HCanes ! | ||
| Post 23 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
infinityG private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Meh... this is so lame. it's a whack character. It's cooler when a character makes a debut and builds cred. This is Liefeld's attention/money grab at relevance again. He's jealous Spawn is still relevant and about to drop a movie. lol  |
||
| Post 24 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Did Deadpool and Cobra Commander have a love child? What issue was that? | ||
| Post 25 • IP flag post | ||
 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
|
kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk I disagree highly. Gwenpool's first appearance was on the cover of Deadpool's Secret Wars 2 in June 2015. Over the summer girls were cosplaying Gwenpool at conventions and Marvel took notice. That came out waaaay before the November release of Howard the Duck #1 vol 6 is in January 2016... |
||
| Post 26 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| oh the massive irony of Liefield complaining about someone else ripping off "His" creation....we have upset the creator of slade oops I mean wade Wilson... | ||
| Post 27 • IP flag post | ||
|
If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
|
xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke I don't see why the separation in time matters. The question is if a cover appearance alone is enough to be called a 'first appearance'. Is Deadpool's Secret Wars 2 labeled as the first appearance of Gwenpool? After that you can get into the whole 'how do you decide if a cameo counts/but what about Gambit/blah blah blah' question. For a non-Gambit data point on that last part, Captain Marvel 14 and 17 are listed as the first and second cameo appearances of Kamala Khan, and they are true one or two panel cameos. The obnoxiously named All New Marvel Now Point One is listed as the first full appearance. Ms Marvel 1 might say that she becomes the new Ms Marvel. Captain Marvel 14 and Point One are the money books according to gocollect. |
||
| Post 28 • IP flag post | ||
|
I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
|
kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| This is all so confusing. I hate comics. Thank you. | ||
| Post 29 • IP flag post | ||
|
If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
|
xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Agreed. Some quick googling says that Howard the Duck is labeled as Gwenpool's first appearance but Deadpool's Secret Wars might be selling for a little bit more but not a big difference, and neither is a big-value book. |
||
| Post 30 • IP flag post | ||
This topic is archived. Start new topic?