What to do with a book missing a page?863
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Haha. Don't know why I just quoted to put haha in a thread where only 3 of us are talking |
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Collector | Swampy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 Right, and I said good, I hope those greedy flippers lose a lot of money. If they're not flippers they still know they are taking a big gamble buying a PLOD so if they lose out it's tough shit, you know. Quote: Originally Posted by matterus So they bought a PLOD, and then they still have a PLOD, what's the big deal? |
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Collector | matterus023 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy Is that a serious question or are you trolling me now lol Plus I heavily disagree with that whole statement. Nothing wrong with taking restoration off to sell as an unrestored comic. Their money and risk. Then if blue they will sell as the market dictates. Harsh view |
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Collector | Swampy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 Not sure what you mean here. Why would they be shocked to find out their restored book was restored? |
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Collector | adgbiking private msg quote post Address this user | |
I really do wonder what CBCS would do if I cracked this book out of the slab and put a loose last page to replace the missing page. I wounder if they would just grade the boom as a whole and deduct for the detached page or if they would still consider it a .5. Hmmmmm | ||
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COLLECTOR | DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
Personally I'd say if a restoration was classified as "extensive" and "professional" then undoing it would probably lower the value because why would someone pay lots of money to reduce the value of a book? | ||
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Ok last time as getting a bit frustrated @Swampy A bloke buys an AF15 from a shop which is 6.0 restored pieces added. Bloke wants to take off the resto (pieces added) so it becomes unrestored. He has NO IDEA that the pieces added to the comic where to mask the trim as not noted anywhere and his best mate didn't own the comic when it was trimmed and only trimmed. So he thinks taking the pieces added off will make it a blue. But the restorer comes back and either says ''hi sorry to say but the pieces added are infact all on one edge as though it was to mask trim. So it will come back as trimed'' Or he just takes it off without telling the customer this and it comes back trimmed. I really can't say it agani as getting ridiculous now |
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Quote:Originally Posted by adgbiking You said replaced, is the page from the book or a different book? |
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Collector | matterus023 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Of course but if the comic was only trimmed to begin with at say a 5.0 then the trim and only the tim was covered then it could come back slight/mod or even slight with just pieces added. People could try to have that removed |
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COLLECTOR | DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
@adgbiking Send Steve Rickets a PM and ask, he won't bite (hard). | ||
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COLLECTOR | DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
@matterus023 I don't know if an entire right edge restore could be done as "slight/moderate." We need a restoration expert to chime in. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 I don't know how much more direct I can be. If someone buys a PLOD with the intent of turning it Blue for profit I hope they get screwed over! I hope they lose thousands of dollars for being such greedy pricks. That's it in a nutshell. Thank you! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Now this I agree with. I personally think it could as it could of been micro trimming so very little area squared to be added. But I do not know. Either way trimmed comics get turned into untrimmed comics without it being noted |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy That is a crazy attitude. Many people hate that comics are even restored so if someone wants to take resto of to get it unrestored how are they greedy pricks? If a comic has a couple dots of colour touch and that is removed successfully and for their time and effort they sell it (at fmv) and make a profit this makes them a greedy prick. You are nuts |
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Collector | Swampy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 Please read my previous posts again, you missed some specifics. |
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COLLECTOR | DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
I would suggest if the notation says pieces added then get it examined by whoever you are thinking of using to remove the resto and get a list of what was done to it before they begin undoing it. Be an educated customer, don't just hand it over and say "have at it!" | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy ''Right, and I said good, I hope those greedy flippers lose a lot of money. If they're not flippers they still know they are taking a big gamble buying a PLOD so if they lose out it's though shit, you know.'' What did I miss? Genuine question |
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Collector | Swampy private msg quote post Address this user | |
No, you know what it is, it's CGC trying to get you to buy the grading notes for every book you see. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego You are heavily missing the point. Once you have bought the comic then it is too late. If you buy with the intention to take resto off well the restorer needs to crack the comic to observe it (so you can't get a refund now). So if the restorer as I mentioned says ''me doing this will make it trimmed'' you are left with a comic that you didn't think you were buying. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy This is why I don't deal with CGC. Well, one of the many reasons. |
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Collector | matterus023 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy This is a HUGE plus for CBCS |
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Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 No, this post: I don't know how much more direct I can be. If someone buys a PLOD with the intent of turning it Blue for profit I hope they get screwed over! I hope they lose thousands of dollars for being such greedy pricks. That's it in a nutshell. Thank you! That is a crazy attitude. Many people hate that comics are even restored so if someone wants to take resto of to get it unrestored how are they greedy pricks? For one, I said "for profit". |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy Yes but my whole reply was this ''That is a crazy attitude. Many people hate that comics are even restored so if someone wants to take resto of to get it unrestored how are they greedy pricks? If a comic has a couple dots of colour touch and that is removed successfully and for their time and effort they sell it (at fmv) and make a profit this makes them a greedy prick. You are nuts'' Saying that for profit anyway makes you a greedy prick is just very harsh |
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Collector | Swampy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 But either way it's in a purple label, so it's not that much of a difference. Am I misunderstanding how much you hate trimming? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 Truth hurts. |
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COLLECTOR | DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by matterus023 But if you paid for a restored book you know what you are getting, if you're only intentions in buying a restored book is to crack it open and undo the resto in the hopes of increasing the value then you are assuming that risk in your venture. |
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Collector | matterus023 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy No you just have completely misunderstood the whole point of this convo and I refuse to explain it a 10th time to you |
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Collector | Swampy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego THANK YOU, GOODNIGHT! You nailed it Darth. |
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Collector | matterus023 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Not at all. Yes there is risk but if this comic was not originally trimmed then the slight/mod resto could be taken off eventually without it coming back trimmed. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Swampy Not thank you lol My whole point is if you buy a restored comic to take the resto off then shouldn't you be aware that by doing this the comic will come back as trimmed. We are all aware of the risks of taking resto off and people do this as a business but not knowing it was trimmed is not a risk the buyer should have to take as it should be noted |
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