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| I had no interest in seeing the movie before and I have less interest in seeing it now. | ||
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| One final thing- and I promise to f*ck off in silence. I think there are 2 things here- one is "why does every movie star have to take a political/social stance, regardless of if you agree or disagree." I don't care, I'm of the "I have been reading marvel comics since 1982 and I'm stoked to see marvel movies with big budgets" camp. The other thing is- with the ability people have to express themselves in ways they didn't use to be able to, certain elements of fandom are becoming increasingly toxic and seem to be actively seeking things to rage about. Gamergate, comicsgate, (something else)gate,etc. Everyone just needs to chill- Go see it if you want, cool. Don't go see it if you don't want to, cool. |
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| Everything is a controversy. I'm with the yawn group. Plus, anything coming out of the mouths of Hollywood people is not worth listening to. | ||
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| I disagree with the idea that Hollywood people should just be quiet. That only would help keep the status quo of old white males making decisions on who and what stories are made. People that have a soapbox to stand on that can further the idea of inclusion and diversity. If those people that can say something, don't say anything, then nothing changes. And changes do need to be made. I am really looking forward to this movie. |
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| @ThorneArt I disagree. Many of these “white males making decisions” are white Jewish males. Certainly it is inappropriate to say we need less Jewish people in Hollywood, yet saying less “white” people is a more accepted statement. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Enelson CO-SIGN |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Symbiote So your complaint goes from Bree Larson to white jewish males? She should tell the white jewish males who to cast? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOOOOOOUUUUUUTT? |
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| My main issue with brie was her Twitter rant on some dude asking for her number at an airport. I was like chill the f out. You are a good looking famous actress. Someone might ask for your number once and a while. Get off your high horse. | ||
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| Wow, what a minefield of a thread. Superheroes are always making a social statement, since the beginning. Social inevitable means political. Superman was originally a Hero born out of the depression. He attacked systematic corruption, slum lords and politically corrupt fraudsters. Superman was an immigrant, trying to fit in. Kids love superheroes because they themselves feel little power to change whatever situation they're in, in their lives. It's wish fulfillment. In the 70s Green lantern/green arrow tackled race relations and drugs. Spider-man rejected the comics code in order to tackle that issue. The X-men was all about the civil rights movement and inclusiveness. Wonder Woman was inspired by the suffrage movement and women's equality. None of that is new or controversial. Everyone with empathy wants to root for the underdog. The disenfranchised. Everyone wants a hero that fights for that. This is the first Marvel movie with a lead female hero, and many fans are intimidated because they feel excluded by a movie that's trying to promote a female hero's experience. It's wish fulfillment. I don't think this movie/story departs from the comic book tradition of empowering the underdog. I think it's very traditional that way. Empowering a woman like this doesn't dis-empower white men. Looking to have her experience acknowledged doesn't take away from your own. But men often feel like a punching bag when inequity is pointed out. And no one likes to feel shamed. Or rejected. Or marginalized. And it's being framed that she wants you to feel bad/ashamed just for being a white male. But Brie wasn't barring white males from her press junkets. She just wanted other faces present as well. It wasn't meant to call out White males as being the bad guys. Like she said herself.. she doesn't want to remove your seat from the table. just add some new ones. Her and Samuel Jackson were inspired by these roles because they represent the underdog. the disenfranchised. I imagine that same inspiration drives them to speak out. Anyway, that's my take on it. I hope it's a good movie/story! |
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| @Ambush_Bug You are missing the point here. It’s not about a female lead character. I defy you to find any white male superhero fan that is against seeing an attractive female play a lead role in a superhero film. I would personally rather see a black woman play Captain Marvel. |
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| Hmm ok.. what IS the point then? I think That Brie feels she's in a certain position of power to represent women and wanted to use that influence to create diversity in her press conferences. Isn't that the point? Not sure what I'm missing. |
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| @Ambush_Bug Brie Larson is selectively including and excluding people (journalists in this case) based upon their race. As we know from history, this is wrong on so many levels. As I mentioned before, some people are just trying to do their jobs and make a living. It is wrong to say, “I’m not going to use your services or employ you, simply because too many people in your field share your skin color”. Selecting by race is always wrong, even if it is framed as “leveling the playing field”. How do you tell a 10 year-old child that he can’t be what he wants to be when he grows up because too many “white men” already hold that job. |
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| You don't; you tell them there is always room for a good [insert occupation here] no matter their race, sex, or religion. Then you tell them to go for it. | ||
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| @BSeldin305 Alright, what do you tell him when he becomes a journalist and someone like Brie Larson refuses to be interviewed by him because of his race? |
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| You tell HIM to write down what happens, provide commentary if appropriate, and move on to the next interview. When that next interview is dynamite, Brie Larson will realize she might have made a mistake and will, perhaps, learn from it. | ||
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| @BSeldin305 So you see where I’m going with this? It is a mistake to use race as a deciding factor (even if you are Brie Larson). |
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| its a comic book movie. she's hot. who cares? | ||
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| @kaptainmyke Apparently Brie Larson cares. A LOT lol If only she had your attitude, we wouldn’t be talking about this. |
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I get it.. I totally do. I get the immediate sense of unfairness that triggers. It's tricky. It's not quite as black and white as all that. No pun intended. There's been a systemic repression of women in the workplace, and she's trying to address that. She didn't want to bar white men from the press conference.. she wanted to ensure other types of people would be there too. You might insist that's racism or sexism. I just don't see it that way.  |
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| Now that my MoviePass is pretty much gone, I'd rather read an Indy comic than watch another so-so, formulaic superhero movie. | ||
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| @Ambush_Bug Exactly, and more systematic repression is not the answer. Quote: Originally Posted by Ambush_Bug I would have chosen an image with more diversity  |
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| Ah Haha! Yea I actually wanted the one with Mr T but it looked too low rez!  |
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| @Ambush_Bug Nice!  |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| We came from a generation of Mortal Kombat, Termintor movies, Shaft, Coffee, just about every Fred Williamson movie, The Simpsons, Family Guy, and Southpark. What the f@#* happened?! Everyone should stop taking everything so seriously. ffs | ||
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| her butt is flat in that jumpsuit btw | ||
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| Brie Larson said, "I do not need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about [A] Wrinkle in Time. It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial," 2 things 1) Is she implying that we need a new movie rating to disclose what group of people a movie is made for? ie. women of color, biracial women, teen women of color, teens that are biracial. 2) Her statements alone are racially motivated. I really get tired of hearing a person say, "as a person of color". Last time I checked, white is a color as well. When I was a kid and I didn't like someone, it was because they were a dick, not because of the color of their skin. Racism is taught and that's why it will never go away especially in today's politically motivated society. It's a crutch for people to use to further their agenda. |
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I was taught white and black are shades, not colors  |
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| I never even read any Captain Marvel comics. I don't know the story line. I thought Capt M was a guy, now a gal. Is this some kind of Dr Who thing? | ||
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