What is considered rare on CGC census??8429
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| Just wondering what is considered rare?? less than 2000,1000,500?? |
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| Do you mean simply "what's a low number of copies of a specific issue for CGC to have graded?" Or are you trying to figure out, more generally, how rare a book is by the number of copies that have been graded? I'd imagine that any answer to any variation of the question would vary by book. I believe the Census itself warns against conflating census results with rarity as a lot of low value books would not be graded (and thus have very few copies on the census) just on the basis that they're low value books; on the other hand, there are some modern variants where the entire run is graded. | ||
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| If there are more than 10 copies on the census I think it would be a stretch to call a book rare. | ||
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| Low print runs of books with a low outcome of receiving a 9.8 or above grade due to flaws/damages. A grade of 9.9 to 10 on a book that the census only shows one copy graded that high when all else grade below 9.8. Perhaps a good example may be the original TMNT 1, first print. The book was self published. Eastman himself says having a 9.8 or above is rather rare due to their creation of the book, distribution, and general years being out in the wild. A LOW print run also helps it combined with simple supply and demand for a copy, but not only a copy, but a high grade. | ||
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| I don't know how to define "rare" on the census. But I do when I see listings for a random, nothing book that has a high grade listed as "rare, highest on census"; it is not rare. Simply no one sends that random, nothing book in for grading. So of course there's only 1 on the census. |
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| I agree, there are two kinds of rare. One type means very few copies are known to exist. The second applies to books that are not in demand and therefore are not very valuable, so no one gets them graded. A good test for a rare book is search for it on ebay. If you do repeated searches over several months and get no hits, then I would say it’s pretty rare. Another variation on rare is rare in high grade. Many of the “funny” books intended primarily for little kids (Bugs Bunny, Peanuts, Four Color) or even teenagers (Archie, Wilbur) were produced in high numbers, but rarely show up in 8.0 or better grades. As interest in these titles increases, so do prices for higher graded copies. PS - I get a kick out of ebay sellers who call their listing “rare” yet have four copies of the same issue for sale. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos That is definitely rare. I would set my sights a little higher and say around the 100 mark |
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| Just handed some books to get graded by cbcs and 1 of them was Weird Science 12...the 1952 Wally Wood cover. Now i know its "rare" but not actually really how rare...hoping for 6.0 or higher and only 47 on the cgc census but I've seen this at conventions but generally in worse shape than mine. Was trying to decide either that book of BB 54 or Teen Titans 1 to send in...all for personal none for sale and it just got me thinking about 'rare' and what that actually is | ||
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| The Gerber scarcity index is worth seeking out. Although dated still a great resource. This website might help as well CGCData |
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| Venom AMC Edition #1 CGC 9.8. Only 3 on census. I have 2 of the 3.   |
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 2001 Spider-man 2099 Second Printing #1 CGC 9.8 only 8 on census |
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 2017 Walking Dead Here's Negan Preview #nn Only 9 on census in 9.8. |
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 2018 Radically Rearranged Ronin Ragdolls Ben Bishop Kickstarter Edition Variant #1 Only 1 on census. |
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 2012 Betty and Veronica #261 1st Vampironica CGC 9.6 only 13 on census and 7 are 9.6 with 4 in 9.8 |
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 SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke But we don’t know if the 9.8’s are newsstand editions like yours. |
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| True! | ||
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| When I had my copy of Thor Annual # 6 pressed I was thrilled to find out that there were only three 9.8s on the census before mine came back with the same grade. By the time I was able to get my copy up for sale there were six copies including mine. It would seem that the higher prices due to the Guardians of the Galaxy movie (they are on the cover of the book) brought more 9.8s out of the woodwork. Just because the census has some data does not mean it is complete. In addition to the raw books the CBCS graded books are also absent from the census. |
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katy keene pinup parade 15 10-20 copies estimated to exist .... I have two of them 5 total in the census |
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| Any book under a print run of 100 is rare. On census really doesn't mean much as other books may exist but no one is bothered to submit them |
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| In the CGC census, under ten graded copies is rare, but to create a baseline of usable data I try to correlate the number of copies in the census to the OSG estimated value of books and auction sales data, using the principle that grading books of lesser value diminishes the return on recoverable investment through encapsulation. It's an inexact science as there's no scarcity index that takes everything into account and CGC census data isn't dependable, but if you look deeply enough into what motivates collectors to speculate on comics at any given time (TV, movies, art, etc.) there are clear indicators that anticipate demand. I know, ...TMI.   |
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| @Darkseid_of_town Cool! I like how she's more concerned with the seagull than that horrific beast rising up out of the waves behind her. | ||
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| this is the way i look at it, but not from a CGC census 1-10: Ultra-Rare 11-100: Super-Rare 101-1000: Rare Comics 1001-10000: Low Distribution 10001-100000: Common 100001-Infinity: Very Common |
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| By definition, Anything under 10 is considered "scarce". | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatCoversthat book s rather interesting...chalk full of paper dolls....puzzles....word searches and pictures to color. even contains a picture of Bill Woggon the artist...finding a copy is hit and miss....finding a complete one with nothing removed or worked inside is tougher than you could imagine. think it hit the gerber scale at 7 meaning more rare than amazing fantasy 15 or hulk 1.....just not a character with the same mainstream draw for audience or the book would have crossed into grail status. |
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