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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. 31.9K	31.9K KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	So no lgbtq (sorry rock hudson or live theatre fans) no bestiality (Disney out)... are witches or zombies ok??? If not i think we are left with am talk radio (but those guys are conspiracy kooks!)
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 81.19K	81.19K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by X51 Quote: Originally Posted by CatCovers Quote: Originally Posted by GanaSoth Clearly, most of you that see no issues with this agenda probably don't have children. I do. My daughter's about to turn 12. She's familiar with concepts like homosexuality and transgender. Couldn't very well raise her without understanding what homosexuality is, given that her "uncle," my closest and oldest friend, is gay. Morally, I felt an obligation to raise her to be open-minded and accepting of people different from herself. I worked with a guy who was arrested for wearing women's underwear and a trench coat at a mall and flashing people. How open-minded does a person need to be? When I was 14, a man approached me at the urinal and tried to get a peek while I was peeing. He wanted to put his mouth on my genetals. I shouted "No" and he ran out of the bathroom. At what point does open-minded behavior stop? I want a definition of what is normal. I was proud of the Indigo Girls. I never actually saw Emily or Amy perform, but I knew them before they ever played music together. I donated an article to a fan site that was collecting articles and news clippings about them. My donation pre-dated the earliest article the site had available at the time. I wanted their fans to be able to enjoy it. Here are pictures of them from high school. I talked to Amy right after they'd gotten a recording contract and she was nice and cordial. I briefly tried to say hello to them years later when they were slated to perform a sidewalk concert in a small local community. They acted like they didn't know me. I was actually offended and lost all desire to even see their concert. They weren't the same people. I was disappointed. I did smile when one of the recent DC Legends of Tomorrow episodes mentioned them. That was one of the few bright spots with regards to CW's agenda.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by KatKomics So no lgbtq (sorry rock hudson or live theatre fans) no bestiality (Disney out)... are witches or zombies ok??? If not i think we are left with am talk radio (but those guys are conspiracy kooks!) At no point have I ever said none. Adding this context to every superhero show you produce is excess.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC Quote: Originally Posted by X51 Quote: Originally Posted by CatCovers Quote: Originally Posted by GanaSoth Clearly, most of you that see no issues with this agenda probably don't have children. I do. My daughter's about to turn 12. She's familiar with concepts like homosexuality and transgender. Couldn't very well raise her without understanding what homosexuality is, given that her "uncle," my closest and oldest friend, is gay. Morally, I felt an obligation to raise her to be open-minded and accepting of people different from herself. I worked with a guy who was arrested for wearing women's underwear and a trench coat at a mall and flashing people. How open-minded does a person need to be? When I was 14, a man approached me at the urinal and tried to get a peek while I was peeing. He wanted to put his mouth on my genetals. I shouted "No" and he ran out of the bathroom. At what point does open-minded behavior stop? I want a definition of what is normal. I was proud of the Indigo Girls. I never actually saw Emily or Amy perform, but I knew them before they ever played music together. I donated an article to a fan site that was collecting articles and news clippings about them. My donation pre-dated the earliest article the site had available at the time. I wanted their fans to be able to enjoy it. Here are pictures of them from high school. I talked to Amy right after they'd gotten a recording contract and she was nice and cordial. I briefly tried to say hello to them years later when they were slated to perform a sidewalk concert in a small local community. They acted like they didn't know me. I was actually offended and lost all desire to even see their concert. They weren't the same people. I was disappointed. I did smile when one of the recent DC Legends of Tomorrow episodes mentioned them. That was one of the few bright spots with regards to CW's agenda. I'm just saying someone needs to define the parameters of what is normal and reasonable if you don't see an excess in the CW shows. I'm capable of making a decision on a personal basis. I have no interest in fantasy themes. I have no interest in zombies or vampires. I can make a long list of story content that doesn't inspire me to watch a television show.
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	One group of people telling another how they should believe, act, and live isn't right. One group seeking acceptance and not extending the same courtesy to others isn't right. Everyone deserves the freedom to choose within the law. I no longer watch the CW because I do not agree with the underlying agenda of their programs, and yes, it is an agenda. Whether it is a lifestyle agenda, a ratings agenda, or a political agenda is debatable, but it's an agenda nonetheless. It becomes an agenda when the underlying idea becomes more important than the quality or progression of the story. A good story gives you all the information to make your own decisions. It doesn't tell you what to believe and damn you for disagreeing. If transgenderism is your interest, then watch something quality such as Transparent or Transamerica and skip the blatant politically correct pandering. If that's your thing and enjoy it, then carry on. Just my two cents.
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	@GAC The Tropic Thunder clip brings up an interesting question. Did I miss the outcry when RDJ did the blackface makeup? I also don't recall the media screaming at Hollywood for allowing them to use the now politically incorrect term of "retard". Could it be that tolerance line is continuously moving and evolving?
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	@OGJackster Yes, apparently you missed it. There was some squabbling. As for "retard," that would fall under the same general heading as other epithets, racial and otherwise. The fact is it's a character using the word, not the actor and not the writer. You can have characters say these words - after all, how are you going to do a movie about the civil rights movement with no one using the n-word? Or have a book with a racist character that doesn't use it? It's part of the story you're telling, not a position you're taking. I expect the same reasoning applied to the blackface - there was tut-tutting about it being on screen. If RDJ had chosen to go to the Oscars in blackface, you'd be able to hear the outcry on the moon.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. 31.9K	31.9K KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by X51 Quote: Originally Posted by KatKomics So no lgbtq (sorry rock hudson or live theatre fans) no bestiality (Disney out)... are witches or zombies ok??? If not i think we are left with am talk radio (but those guys are conspiracy kooks!) At no point have I ever said none. Adding this context to every superhero show you produce is excess. True...none maybe a bit to far
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	Quote: Originally Posted by NoahSult It blows my mind that there is still so much anger and fear of gays and transgender.you really can easily avoid these things. As someone who is in the comic book world i can assure you most of the audience has no problem with gay or transgender characters and if they do they don't go on rants to the creators they simply don't spend their money on the products. Typically, that is exactly what I do. I grew up with superheroes and like superheroes. I was watching 4 superhero shows that told superhero stories. Lately, the stories shifted on all of the current shows and all of the upcoming shows to be about alternate lifestyles. If every story went out of it's way to include sloths or an addiction to aspirin, my gripe would be exactly the same. I'm not advocating censorship. I'm advocating an objective perspective of the product being presented. A synonym for objective is dispassionate. Clearly the network and it's writers have an abnormal passion for writing about alternate lifestyles. The critics in this discussion call that an agenda.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by KatKomics Quote: Originally Posted by X51 Quote: Originally Posted by KatKomics So no lgbtq (sorry rock hudson or live theatre fans) no bestiality (Disney out)... are witches or zombies ok??? If not i think we are left with am talk radio (but those guys are conspiracy kooks!) At no point have I ever said none. Adding this context to every superhero show you produce is excess. True...none maybe a bit to far I'm perfectly fine with that.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by CatCovers And no, children cannot be brainwashed into being gay or being transgender. I can't put it more gently than this - if you think they can, you are incorrect. This phrase sticks with me and I'll say why. I own my Hulk #1 because a young Asian guy bought $600 worth of my Valiant comics in the 90's. I turned around and took that money and bought the Hulk #1. The young Asian guy was a cross-dresser with glamour shots taken of him as a woman. He was left to manage the store while the owner was out of town at a convention. I used to make him laugh. I'd say "When are you going to start liking women like you're supposed to?" He'd giggle and shake his head no. I had no problem with the guy. I didn't agree with his life choices, but I don't agree with a lot of people. Typical day for me. However, I did ask someone who knew him what they thought about his choices. The answer I got is that his neighbor was a sexual predator and initiated him into same sex acts. In that sense, I disagree with your assertion. If you talk to strippers and get them to be honest, you'll find that many were sexually abused as a child. They don't have a normal perspective on what it's like to be a child. While it's unlikely that a child seeing two men kiss will make them deviate from their destined path, focusing on sexuality in a show which kids watch can feed the fantasies of sexual predators who will go out and physically exploit a mentally immature victim such as a child. It's no different than John Wayne Gacy dressing up as a clown to be close to his victims. Superheroes appeal to children, so in that sense it doesn't seem wise to introduce sexual themes to a childin a superhero themed show. You are introducing mature concepts to children who are incapable of discerning who they can trust in the world. By no means am I advocating that children be sheltered from reality. I just feel that it should be meted or measured out at a level in which they can adjust. They need to be challenged to think at higher levels, rather than tossing them out of a plane with no parachute. The human brain does not fully mature until about 27 or 28.
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	@X51 I disagree with his choice as well. Spending $600 on a bunch of Valiant Comics was unwise.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by CatCovers @X51 I disagree with his choice as well. Spending $600 on a bunch of Valiant Comics was unwise.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by X51 Quote: Originally Posted by CatCovers And no, children cannot be brainwashed into being gay or being transgender. I can't put it more gently than this - if you think they can, you are incorrect. This phrase sticks with me and I'll say why. I own my Hulk #1 because a young Asian guy bought $600 worth of my Valiant comics in the 90's. I turned around and took that money and bought the Hulk #1. The young Asian guy was a cross-dresser with glamour shots taken of him as a woman. He was left to manage the store while the owner was out of town at a convention. I used to make him laugh. I'd say "When are you going to start liking women like you're supposed to?" He'd giggle and shake his head no. I had no problem with the guy. I didn't agree with his life choices, but I don't agree with a lot of people. Typical day for me. However, I did ask someone who knew him what they thought about his choices. The answer I got is that his neighbor was a sexual predator and initiated him into same sex acts. In that sense, I disagree with your assertion. If you talk to strippers and get them to be honest, you'll find that many were sexually abused as a child. They don't have a normal perspective on what it's like to be a child. While it's unlikely that a child seeing two men kiss will make them deviate from their destined path, focusing on sexuality in a show which kids watch can feed the fantasies of sexual predators who will go out and physically exploit a mentally immature victim such as a child. It's no different than John Wayne Gacy dressing up as a clown to be close to his victims. Superheroes appeal to children, so in that sense it doesn't seem wise to introduce sexual themes to a childin a superhero themed show. You are introducing mature concepts to children who are incapable of discerning who they can trust in the world. By no means am I advocating that children be sheltered from reality. I just feel that it should be meted or measured out at a level in which they can adjust. They need to be challenged to think at higher levels, rather than tossing them out of a plane with no parachute. The human brain does not fully mature until about 27 or 28. Bravo ! Best telling of the truth in this thread !
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	Ive also noticed a trend in this thread, which is kinda spooky. People that are for transgenderism all have the word "cat" or different spellings of the word in their usernames. Which reminds me of an excerpt from an upcoming movie: meoooowwwww "we are transgender if you pleasssseeee, we are transgender if you don't please.... -From the new movie Disney is making called "The Lady & the Trans"
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. 18.18K	18.18K xkonk private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by X51 Quote: Originally Posted by CatCovers And no, children cannot be brainwashed into being gay or being transgender. I can't put it more gently than this - if you think they can, you are incorrect. This phrase sticks with me and I'll say why. I own my Hulk #1 because a young Asian guy bought $600 worth of my Valiant comics in the 90's. I turned around and took that money and bought the Hulk #1. The young Asian guy was a cross-dresser with glamour shots taken of him as a woman. He was left to manage the store while the owner was out of town at a convention. I used to make him laugh. I'd say "When are you going to start liking women like you're supposed to?" He'd giggle and shake his head no. I had no problem with the guy. I didn't agree with his life choices, but I don't agree with a lot of people. Typical day for me. However, I did ask someone who knew him what they thought about his choices. The answer I got is that his neighbor was a sexual predator and initiated him into same sex acts. In that sense, I disagree with your assertion. If you talk to strippers and get them to be honest, you'll find that many were sexually abused as a child. They don't have a normal perspective on what it's like to be a child. While it's unlikely that a child seeing two men kiss will make them deviate from their destined path, focusing on sexuality in a show which kids watch can feed the fantasies of sexual predators who will go out and physically exploit a mentally immature victim such as a child. It's no different than John Wayne Gacy dressing up as a clown to be close to his victims. Superheroes appeal to children, so in that sense it doesn't seem wise to introduce sexual themes to a childin a superhero themed show. You are introducing mature concepts to children who are incapable of discerning who they can trust in the world. By no means am I advocating that children be sheltered from reality. I just feel that it should be meted or measured out at a level in which they can adjust. They need to be challenged to think at higher levels, rather than tossing them out of a plane with no parachute. The human brain does not fully mature until about 27 or 28. I assume all of this behavior-following in children, especially of cartoons and superheroes, is why we are constantly bombarded with stories of costumed vigilante justice.
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	I don’t understand why gays are in the discussion at all, as transgender is an actual medical condition (gender dysphoria) while the other is simply a sexual choice. Mental suffering is not something that should be glorified in my opinion. Excepted, of course. It’s all about presentation. Is professor X in there to convince kids that it’s cool to be in a wheelchair and they should strive for that? No. It’s there for acceptance, and to help get rid of and a stigma attached to that particular medical condition. A transgender superhero should have a story about overcoming their condition, To promote acceptance and remove stigma. They should not have a story about how awesome it is to be transgender and influencing kids in that direction.
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	CNN reported that the World Health Organization no longer classifies transgender people as mentally ill but rather a condition related to sexual health. Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer I don’t understand why gays are in the discussion at all LGBTQQ” (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning, queer] and other variations are sometimes all lumped together even though each is unique. I think that may have happened here.
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Originally Posted by GanaSoth
Ive also noticed a trend in this thread, which is kinda spooky.

People that are for transgenderism all have the word "cat" or different spellings of the word in their usernames.

If you're looking for my lunch money, fergettaboutit, ...I'm pretty sure I've been out of grade school a little longer than you.

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Originally Posted by GanaSoth
Which reminds me of an excerpt from an upcoming movie:

*meoooowwwww* "we are transgender if you pleasssseeee, we are transgender if you don't please....
-From the new movie Disney is making called "The Lady & the Trans"

Being an advocate for tolerance isn't the same thing as encouraging behavior, but nuance is often lost on those who live in a silo.

Folks supporting tolerance seem to be a rarity in today's society. Perhaps it's because red gimme caps fit too tight or maybe it's something in the water. Who knows, but it's a real shame given Georges Santayana's warnings about history and those who don't learn from it.

BTW, I'd politely suggest working on those clever retorts a bit, that last one was really a dog.

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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. 18.18K	18.18K xkonk private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer I don’t understand why gays are in the discussion at all, as transgender is an actual medical condition (gender dysphoria) while the other is simply a sexual choice. Being gay used to be a condition too. The two don't seem that different for this discussion. Aside from that, gender dysphoria doesn't have to describe all transgender people. Referring to the DSM-V: "A new condition called “gender dysphoria” was added to diagnose and treat those transgender individuals who felt distress at the mismatch between their identities and their bodies. The new diagnosis recognized that a mismatch between one’s birth gender and identity was not necessarily pathological, notes pediatric endocrinologist Norman Spack, a founder of the gender clinic at Boston Children’s Hospital. It shifted the emphasis in treatment from fixing a disorder to resolving distress over the mismatch."
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	Quote: Originally Posted by CatmanAmerica Folks supporting tolerance seem to be a rarity in today's society. Perhaps it's because their red gimme caps fit too tight or maybe it's something in the water. What's a "gimme" cap? If you were referencing a MAGA hat, tolerance works both ways. And I disagree about it being a rarity. Currently, there are groups out there who spew hatred under the guise of racial or sexual equality when in fact they just want the division and news air time because of their hatred for the President. When they are serious about finding a solution, that's when the calmer, cooler heads will prevail and common ground will be found for solutions. It's not a democratic vs republican way or a gay vs straight way. It's a human way.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster If you were referencing a MAGA hat, tolerance works both ways The bigotry and intolerance that rises up in the left over the mere sight of a MAGA hat is insane
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	Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster If you were referencing a MAGA hat, tolerance works both ways The bigotry and intolerance that rises up in the left over the mere sight of a MAGA hat is insane A lot of well meaning folks ...on both sides (of the Atlantic)... thought the swastika was a symbol of progress in the 1930's (look up German American Bund). Just sayin'. .
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	Maybe for some but we all know how that turned out lol!
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	Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster Maybe for some but we all know how that turned out lol! It's a positive sign when we apparently agree that both (swastika & MAGA hat) are symbols of intolerance. .
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	Respectfully I disagree. A Maga hat is not a sign of intolerance. Currently the students that were wearing their MAGA hats at the rally didn’t disrespect the native Americans. It was all taken out of context which is all been brought out in the current news. What’s wrong with wanting to make America first?
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	Too bad we can’t sit down with each other and discuss this over a whole bunch of beer LOL.
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	At the risk of derailing things further, this is reminding me of the description I read for a Golden Age comic up for sale a few months ago. Under page quality, the seller put: "So white Trump would let it into the country." No matter your political affiliation, that's funny.
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	@CatmanAmerica haha. Your pretty funny when ya wanna be.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster Too bad we can’t sit down with each other and discuss this over a whole bunch of beer LOL. Great statement and very true!! something gets lost when deeper conversations are had over the internet....so much so I believe it's not really the place for it. A face to face conversation where you can read body language and here voice intonations and ask for clarifications or elaborations are how true, meaningful conversations are had.....beer helps too!
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