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| @CatmanAmerica there is so much I disagree with on what you said. First off, I don't care what others do in the comfort of their own homes. I can careless who's gay or straight. But here's the part that a few of you on here seem to not get. Its not that we are attacking transgenders or gays, only when the agenda of pushing that lifestyle into our children's lives is when we "demonize" it & speak out. Quote: Originally Posted by CatmanAmerica Then why spread it through comic book tv shows & movies that children watch? Why even have that lifestyle in mainstream media at all then, if by your thinking, sexual preference or orientation can't be taught or manipulated? Then what's the point? Clearly, most of you that see no issues with this agenda probably don't have children. |
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| Disabled people greatly outnumber “alternative lifestyle” people. Are they being proportionally represented in television and film? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth I do. My daughter's about to turn 12. She's familiar with concepts like homosexuality and transgender. Couldn't very well raise her without understanding what homosexuality is, given that her "uncle," my closest and oldest friend, is gay. Morally, I felt an obligation to raise her to be open-minded and accepting of people different from herself. |
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| @CatCovers well said! | ||
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| @CatCovers Ok. Good luck! My grandson, when he comes of age, will be taught it's wrong and goes against our religious beliefs and morals in our home. Your head of your household, I'm head of mine. Only difference is I don't allow agendas like this in mine. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| Zero class | ||
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| @GanaSoth She'll turn out just fine. Let me put this extremely mildly - I don't care at all for the insinuation otherwise. | ||
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| Haha. Zero class... More like Zero CW. |
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| @CatCovers oh? So when it comes to your kid you get on the defensive? Now you see how I feel about my grandkid & future generations of childern. At least you had a chance to debrief your child on the subject. Most parents don't have the time or want to bring that subject up to their childern. Then these tv shows step in through the backdoor & plant the ideas and "alternative lifestyle" in the child's mind. | ||
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| So is there an ignore feature on this board? | ||
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| I will give my 2 cents on this. People can act or do whatever they want in their own home. I just don't want people throwing their alternative lifestyle up in our face in social media,tv,(Bruce Jenner comes to mind),etc. It is also against my religious beliefs. I think it is sick that you have these really young teenagers questioning their own identity on tv shows and more. This is because it is being exposed to them and they get ideas from all this stuff. What would happen if Steve Rodgers started acting like Bruce? I will keep it to comic book stuff now. | ||
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@BrianGreensnips if Steve Rogers acted like Bruce Jenner...  In the next Avengers Movie, Steve takes a different serm so he can go undercover.... Avengers 5 - The Trans-Agent Agenda |
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Quote:Originally Posted by X51 Green Arrow - white Flash - white Supergirl - white Legends of Tomorrow (to start, at least) - white, white, white, white, black guy who only has powers if he combines with a white guy must be an agenda, I guess. |
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| @xkonk Agenda? Let's see. Green Arrow - 1941 Flash - 1939 Supergirl - 1959 Legends of Tomorrow - you can't really use that example cause it actually contains an African American. Nope, no agenda, just golden age heroes. |
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..Makes this 1943 comic cover villain all the more interesting today  |
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@Sagii LOL!   |
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| @Sagii well, it's really like a circus freak; a bearded lady for example. If you look at the pic, its like Two-Face from Batman, only half man half woman. A transgender hides the fact it's either one sex or another, other than what it really is. |
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| The word indoctrination comes to mind. Where do you draw the line? At some point do you say Nazis are people too so it's all good? How about this, google NAMBLA. Is this next? | ||
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| @OGJackster wow... That's pretty messed up. I've never even heard of that group before... | ||
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| So does it all really come down to tolerance? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster Common sense. There are good and bad actors in all facets of society, just like there are some parents who teach kids to think for themselves and others who prefer rigid indoctrination. Organizations and ideologies that are evil by reputation usually get ostracized by society over time. Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster In my estimation, YES!  To their credit, CW seems to be making an effort toward inclusiveness, but as I stated earlier, I haven't been watching Supergirl so I can't comment on how these characters are portrayed to their target audience. . |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatmanAmerica Like Stalinism? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her democratic socialist ideas are becoming more and more mainstream thinking by our younger population that want the government and the rich to foot the bill for the poor and middle class. Sorry, even though you eloquently state your beliefs, I think we all need to be a little bit more conservative because when you open the door of total tolerance, the results will not be good. ie the acceptance of NAMBLA and the Nazi Party. A line needs to be drawn for our young. The sad thing is, is that it keeps getting moved farther away with each new generation. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster Well, we got 70 or so posts in without Godwin's Law. What exactly are you talking about with the "acceptance" of NAMBLA? They've been around for decades. Have you noticed us as a society getting lax about child molesters or kiddie porn? No. If anything, it is prosecuted more vigorously than ever before. Nor does it have anything to do with the original point of this thread. Conflating transgenderism and pedophilia is like conflating beach balls and locomotives. They have nothing whatsoever to do with one another. If common sense doesn't do it, how about this: tolerance stops when hurting others begins. You can be as much of a Nazi as you want to be. I don't care. Read Mein Kampf (I have). Listen to nothing but Wagner. Sit around and ruminate over how (what you see as) all these lesser humans are responsible for all the ills in the world. Have at it. I don't have a problem until you decide to put your ideas into motion, whether it's invading Poland, starting up a concentration camp or forcing all media to act as a propaganda organ for your traditionalist views. In short, your right to swing your arm stops at the other guy's nose. A transgender character on TV doesn't meet that threshold. It doesn't hurt you or anyone else. And no, children cannot be brainwashed into being gay or being transgender. I can't put it more gently than this - if you think they can, you are incorrect. Final note - there is a VAST gulf of difference between Stalin and democratic socialism. But we have plenty of cans of worms open already. Let's not pop the top on that one. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatCovers I think you kind of missed the point I was making. Where do you draw the line for tolerance? Society is slowly accepting everything. My point is there are things that are wrong (like NAMBLA and the Nazi Party) and there needs to be a line that shouldn't be crossed. As things stand right now, I don't think Hollywood has a line. And no, I wasn't comparing transgenders and pedophiles. I understand transgender people may identify differently from their assigned sex. That's all good but, when I watch TV to escape and relax, I don't want the CW to sensationalize politically correct topics just so they can make news saying they are the first to do this. I don't give a crap. Just give me a good storyline and stop focusing on what's between a person's legs! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster Apologies if I misunderstood. From your post, I don't think we're too far off, just looking at it from different angles. Can understand not wanting to watch if you feel like that's all they're doing. I'm very tolerant, but I prize story above all and wouldn't be interested in watching something if it seemed like all they were doing was marking off boxes on an inclusivity checklist. My point all along is simply that I believe there's nothing wrong with having a transgender character. Whether the writers make it worth watching is a whole different matter. |
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| @OGJackster I haven't seen any indication that CW has done more than trying to be inclusive in casting and storytelling. If anyone who regularly watches the series can demonstrate that I'm wrong on this, please correct my impressions. I sincerely hope you find something a bit less provocative to watch. There are lots of wholesome shows made in the 50's and 60's available on a variety of retro-TV channels and Shout Factory DVD sets that won't impinge upon your prurient concerns. The one line crossed that troubles me in this thread is the posting of overtly political comments, but as a tolerant person with no desire to offend anyone's political sensitivities, my approach is to avoid responding in kind even when I consider those views to be way off base. That's not who I am as a board contributor. |
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| It blows my mind that there is still so much anger and fear of gays and transgender.you really can easily avoid these things. As someone who is in the comic book world i can assure you most of the audience has no problem with gay or transgender characters and if they do they don't go on rants to the creators they simply don't spend their money on the products. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatmanAmericaYou crack me up! My apologies to my democratic friend if I offended. @NoahSult I don't think these should be considered "rants" but rather an open discussion on the direction that programming on TV has gone. Another issue that is interesting to me is the use of the word "f*ck". This, a few years ago was highly taboo and also an offense that was subject to be fined by the FCC. Not any more. |
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| In what scenario would Nambla be next? | ||
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