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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk It's just something that happens on occasion   |
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| I can see the plagiarism in the venomized Mary jane, and the dark phoneix copy he did which he was accussed of the first go round along with the Magneto. These lead to Marvel distancing themselves from him. The punisher "copy" I just dont see. It looks like alot of punisher or "generic soldier" holding a gun style pose. IMO This new accusation almost feels like trying to open up an old wound. Bleeding cool is like the comic book version of TMZ I havent taken them serious in years. All that being said people looking to dump a Dark Knights Metal 3 Virgin let me know. |
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| LOL! I don't buy many modern comics, but I should start collecting covers he's done. Bad publicity is still publicity. If everyone scorns his work, it'll be in short supply in the future. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by X51 Great point! I've bought his covers just to unload them immediately. But even rhinestone costume jewelry sometimes has value |
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Quote:Originally Posted by X51 How'd that work for Milli Vanilli??? LOL!!!! |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O "Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know; Girl you know" |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Hcanesthe guns in the punisher - > batman are exactly the same.. Ie they were taken in photoshop and slightly rotated and colour balanced. no or very little new linework. Like the MJ one where legs were retoned as pants . It's literally using an existing base and manipulating until looks like something new. Which is still a skill, but not acknowledging the original source is not cool |
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| It may just be the way he works /gets his vision rolling. Not everyone can work with a blank canvas. .. He sees an image and automatically sees how it can be redone as something else and or made better . almost all of them are totally awesome. (usually anyways better than the original he traces over.) and basically look like originals. I hope he continues to do them. Maybe he just needs to release a book one day showing each cover he has done, and the cover that inspired it {I. E. which cover he traced over)  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O You still remember them more than the artists that recorded the songs. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| and still there's zero demand for their work post controversy. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I have heard their songs since then, but I don't think they are any worse off than many other pop artists from the past. How many people are yearning for Debbie Gibson songs. She hit triple platinum, yet I know of no one looking for her music. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by X51 Isn't that the point tho? Everyone scorned their work and it's likely in very short supply now but still worthless because no one wants it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC It can go either way. Pence comics were scorned, some people still scorn them, but there's a dedicated bunch who really want them. Newsstand comics were frowned upon because of the bar code. Some people like me prefer the bar code. Now the prices are running ahead of direct market editions. An example of an artist who has sustained his career despite negative sentiments is Rob Liefeld. How has Greg Land's career progressed? Is he still getting work? He went through a similar controversy over swiping images. A large number of artist do it. Most don't get caught. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslave What is he talented at, copying other people’s work? Finishing technique? When I was at art school there were a lot of artists who had excellent finishing technique but couldn’t draw their way out of a paper bag. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| I think we all can agree that he did not trace 100% of his work. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Naw.... Now I'm not so sure.... (Hahaha) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Logan510 Gimme a break. You're saying he copied everything he did? No man. Clearly poached some stuff he shouldn't, but still did a lot of pretty impressive work. You can't ignore that stuff. Also, he can draw, end of story. Watched him do it live. Considering the time constraints artists are under to do commissions at shows, he was doing pretty damn good. Better than some others, thats for sure. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslave How do you remove a thumbs-up? I accidentally (while scrolling my screen) hit the thumbs-up on this post I quoted... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth Sorry, can't take back what's posted on the internet. You forever endorse the quote. |
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| @Drogio your icon fits perfectly on how I feel about that... | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by mediaslave We'll have to agree to disagree. You see a fantastic artist, I see a guy who's got some nice finishing technique, but otherwise I see nothing that separates him from any other portrait style cover artist out there. I like interesting composition that teases what I can expect on the inside, I like fluid, dynamic work instead of the same posed, stiff work that's only saved by the rendering technique. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Logan510 I think he's very talented, but give me a 70's Marvel cover with the heroes actually jumping into action any day and I'll like it better. On another message board, I was discussing the sad state of modern day comic book covers. One guy was saying he hated looking at heroes flying in formation like blue angels. I hate the covers with an upshot of heroes standing on a ledge in stupid "chest poking out" poses. We discussed how covers will feature content (characters, situations, etc.) that isn't even in the comic. Months later I brought that up to an artist who was drawing covers for Dark Horse. He said Dark Horse actually had some of those lame character poses planned for a comic series months in advance. Not only were they horrible, but they were inserted intentionally. I also exchanged some messages with Neal Adams' son Josh and he was explaining how the publishers like to buy cover artwork that isn't tied to a comic so they can re-purpose it and re-use it later. Cover art is not about enticing consumers to read the comics anymore. It's another reason why modern comics are so horrible. |
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But but but but but it's Mattina man - he's like one of the hottest artists in the biz. And he's got a cool last name like other cover artists. So if he's cool and his art looks cool then he must be an incredible artist. I mean just look at the work!!! It's Frazetta x2 for chrissakes  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I can't do what he does, so I don't judge. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by X51 You can’t use a light box and swipe other artists work ? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Logan510 I screw up a stick figure... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogio I screw up TRACING stick figures. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Logan510 No. I had a cartoon published for 2 years, and the first thing I bought was an electric eraser. The best I could do was my own crappy cartoon style. I think I could have light boxed a Dilbert cartoon, but that's about it. My girlfriend on the other hand can draw beautiful renditions of other people's work all freehand. |
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