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| So I just had an interesting chat at the comic store about the Gerber products. Has anyone had any terrible experiences with any Mylar products? Like cracking or aged materials sticking more so to books making removal more difficult? Maybe something you noticed if you bought an older collection that contained some Mylar protected books? Recently, after some reading, I was planning on transitioning my better books to Mylar (i.e., the Gerber products) but now I'm beginning to second guess. Any thoughts? Also, one guy really liked the Archive versions of the 2 mil. Having an open container seems terrible to me but he LOVES them. Any thoughts on those? |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I use E Gerber Mylite 2 and Mylite 4 mylar bags and have never had a problem. They also make the books look great and of course superior protection for my books. | ||
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Never had a problem with Gerber mylites. 6 years is the longest I've had a comic in a Mylite and there is no sticking or removal issues. I just removed one the other day. | ||
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| Yea i never had a problem with the gerber mylites. I use mylites 2 and 4 for my silver age books and had np with sticking. Just one thing take your time sliding your books in because the mylar can slice a book. | ||
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| Archives are supposedly better because they let the book breath but I also wouldn´t like them. | ||
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
I use the following and love them. I'll never use any other brands. No issues whatsoever. |
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vacaboca private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I just wish the E Gerber folks would add online ordering :/ | ||
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth +1 |
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| I'm reorganizing my collection right now and transitioning a lot of books to Mylites 2 and fullbacks - eventually hope to get all my books in them. As part of that, I'm replacing some old (very old) boards with new fullbacks. Just last week I took some books out of the mylar bags they'd been in for 30 years. No sticking, no problems, no nothing. I wish Gerber had online ordering (and cheaper shipping) but I can't recommend them enough. |
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| I also have been using mylites 2 & 4 for years without any issues. The only frustration I have had with the product is that you have to go one size up with the sleeve if bagging a book with a full back and a 4 mil sleeve ie silver-age 4 mil and full back for a modern book or you have to trim the fullback width to fit. The only other frustrations with egerber that I have had (according to the egerber rep that responded to my email) is that they are getting out of the single package selling and focusing on mass orders for shops, museums etc. E-gerber used to have several customer service reps available to take phone orders throughout the day. Now you have to leave a message and a representative will call you back to take your order and the customer must now order a minimum of $100 of product. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by mattness Really? I called a week or so before Christmas and placed an order. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by vacabocaI agree. I could buy them on line through someone else but it is usually much cheaper to call in the order through E Gerber. Yes, you actually have to call in using the phone. But I do not like the $100 minimum purchase. I know we had this discussion a few months ago but I know there are new members and I figured it would be good for those to know this. I have been waiting to do my order once I get down to the last package. |
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mattness private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @CatCovers Really? Hmm, well that's good to know.. I was told by a kgeorge through email that the reps weren't available to be on the phones anymore...I wonder if it was a seasonal thing. I wrote to them in October.. ? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by mattness Maybe. I called, one of the reps picked up (very nice lady I've spoken to before) and she took my order just like always. She told me it wouldn't ship until January, but after a moment or two of joking and begging she promised to see what she could do. It shipped before Christmas. |
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| I emailed Gerber just after Christmas and George got back to me right away. I was looking at getting about 400 2's and Fullbacks but shipping to Vancouver was quoted at $115 - which is clearly ridiculous. I then asked about a US address (Point Roberts) and that was going to be $52. He really wasn't too forthcoming in the email responses to say if these shipping costs were so high because my order wasn't big enough or if there was a weight issue. They don't seem too concerned with trying to increase their market share. Every site I seem to find (including eBay) seems to mark everything up by 50 to 60% - so buying the Gerber product is really not user friendly. Sucks when high shipping costs end up being the bottleneck. Bill Cole's Arklites are way over priced for the same material as Mylites.... Polyester is polyester! I don't know what their shipping costs were going to be. My argument at the store was that maybe the stuff coming out of the collections, that was cracking and holding on to the books too tightly, wasn't actually Mylar - but rather some crappy derivative that felt rigid. I'm still not sure what I should do. |
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Thearrow private msg quote post Address this user | |
| LCS order a bunch u can see if they can add to their order next time they place one. Thats if u have one close by that orders them. | ||
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| It costs roughly about 3 to 4 times as much to use Mylites and Fullbacks instead of cheap bags and boards. I order Mylites and Fullbacks either from ebay or Amazon in quantities of 50 to 100 or more of each, shopping around for the best price. My wife gets free shipping with Amazon Prime and on ebay I can use eBucks or discount coupons to save even more. I have been slowly going through my collection and upgrading anything of age and/or value to Mylites and Fullbacks. I can tell you that after 30 to 40 years, cheap bags and even boards can get quite yellow and disgusting. With Mylar, you will never have to change bags ever again (one and done). And the rigidity of the Mylite with the Fullback offers several times the protection of a standard bag and board (and looks so much better). |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| and your comics covers "POP" like crazy in those mylites. They look fantastic! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth We are in the process of putting most of our books in these. They truly do make them look amazing. Highly recommended! |
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 I'll never go back to the cheap stuff. I replace all bags and boards of the books I buy with these. |
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I've got some comics that I put in Mylites in 1982. No cracking or issues with removal. The comics smell like fresh inks as they did in 1982. Some of the bags did get cloudy for an unknown reason. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by mattness Well yeah.... Halloween is huge with Gerber. They are all witches after all. That's why their products are so magical ! |
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| Perhaps if a bunch of collectors who knew each other , perhaps lived in the same regions chipped in (sort or like a co-op) they could buy in bulk and save on cost and shipping ...just a thought. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Terry88 I think I may know what's going on. About 15 or 20 years ago I purchased a pack of 10 ultra pro mylar sleeves for my more valuable comics at the time. The sleeves were very thick and rigid and came with a flap that folded over and tucked behind a tab. I thought they made the comic pop, and rigid enough I didn't need a backing board. Of course, they were so rigid you basically had to flex the sleeve by applying pressure on the sides...and even with that, the comic did not slide in easily; if any part was touching the sleeve it inhibited it from moving gracefully in or out. I basically was pushing on the sides and So you can imagine the risks you are taking when bending the Mylar with the comic inside and either pulling or shoving it to move it along. Needless to say I did not buy any more of those. Fast forward 15+ years...As I'm replacing old bags and boards with mylites and full backs (I use silver age for both for moderns and don't have issues with the full back not fitting in the sleeve, btw). I came across a few comics still left in those old ultra pro Mylar sleeves. They were still as difficult to work with getting the comic out and THEY DID CRACK at the seams....the flaps were actually falling off when I opened them up. So maybe this shop owner is thinking of these ultra pro Mylars like I had, or a similar product. Terrible product. A lot of the issues with them were there from day 1 of use. Although mylites are more rigid than basic bags, I don't see the same issues and like everyone else here in this post I don't think you can go wrong with the mylites and full backs. But know that the silver age size do not fit in normal long/short boxes (width wise). I had to buy magazine size boxes, or you can buy boxes designed for slabs. I've been throwing the ultra pros out as I find them. But if I come across another I'll post a picture. |
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| or just use plastic/cheap backing boards and change them out every few years. The whole "yellowing, turning cloudy/grimy" thing seems to be more a product of poor storage environment than the bags/boards themselves. I've had some go 10, 15+ years without changing them. That said, will probably upgrade to the mylars for the couple hundred or so books that are "nice, but not worth slabbing." So ultimately 3 tiers of storage: plastic, mylars, slabs. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrogioGood point about the Silver Mylite not fitting width wise across a standard comic box. It is annoying to have to split up a run because the keys or higher grade books are in those and the rest are not. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by brandon77 The cloudiness wasn't a storage issue for mine. The books were packed into the boxes reasonably tight. The temperature stayed cool & moderate. When I pulled them out of the boxes, there was no air gaps between them. The cloudiness was primarily where the bags made contact with one another. The books inside the bags were like new. It's possible that surfactants were on the exterior bags to make them easier to handle. Mylar's dimensional specs were notoriously inconsistent back then due to the difficulties in controlling the manufacturing process. The term "Ultrapro Mylar" makes me cringe. Ultrapro did not make Mylar comic sleeves. They made thick polypropylene sleeves. The Ultrapro products did crumble into pieces over time. They made a comic look great when they are new. After years go by they crack & split. I refused to buy them, but some premium comics were distributed in then. Usually, it was a signed comic or something that came with a certificate of authenticity. Although slightly off the subject, the last time I shopped at a comic book store, this was the labeling inside the standard bags they were selling.  It features Future Comics' characters. Is Future Comics getting a royalty? They haven't published in years. How old are the bags you are buying? Did they sit in a warehouse for a decade before the store ordered them? If you buy new bags and boards, are they new? |
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