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Marvel Value Stamp cut out, but still have the stamp.8058

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After consideration of the expressed views of the community and assessment of the practice, beginning with submissions postmarked after May 3, 2013, CGC will modify its grading standard and ignore the presence of tape if it serves a function (such as fixing a tear or spine split) and instead grade the book as if it was not present. Therefore, any existing defect will be graded accordingly. If the tape does not serve a function, the tape will be treated as a defect and the book will be downgraded. By doing this, books will still receive a Universal Label but the grade will better reflect the actual condition of the comic book.

“As the trusted grading authority in the hobby of comic collecting we feel this new policy better serves collectors and protects the integrity of the books,” said Paul Litch, CGC’s primary grader and restoration detection specialist. “We’re grateful to the collectors and dealers who have come to depend on us. Most importantly, we value their trust and opinion and are constantly striving to serve the best interests of the community.”

Books with tape that have already been graded by CGC will retain their grade, but any books that are resubmitted will fall under the new criteria and be graded accordingly. CGC will continue to note tape on the label, as it has always done, whenever and wherever it is found on a book.

Anyone with questions can contact CGC customer service at 877-662-6642.


My bad, with tape CGC won’t give it an upgrade, but it won’t receive a downgrade either and it won’t be labelled “conserved” or “restored”.

I’m saying that according to CGC, if the tape serves a function, it won’t downgrade the book and will still get a Univetsal grade.

Not sure what your stance is. Are you saying that taping the MVS back in, doesn’t serve a function?

I guess taping it back in would just lead to more damage in the long run.
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Collector RRO private msg quote post Address this user
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@Homer

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Originally Posted by Homer
After consideration of the expressed views of the community and assessment of the practice, beginning with submissions postmarked after May 3, 2013, CGC will modify its grading standard and ignore the presence of tape if it serves a function (such as fixing a tear or spine split) and instead grade the book as if it was not present. Therefore, any existing defect will be graded accordingly. If the tape does not serve a function, the tape will be treated as a defect and the book will be downgraded. By doing this, books will still receive a Universal Label but the grade will better reflect the actual condition of the comic book.

“As the trusted grading authority in the hobby of comic collecting we feel this new policy better serves collectors and protects the integrity of the books,” said Paul Litch, CGC’s primary grader and restoration detection specialist. “We’re grateful to the collectors and dealers who have come to depend on us. Most importantly, we value their trust and opinion and are constantly striving to serve the best interests of the community.”

Books with tape that have already been graded by CGC will retain their grade, but any books that are resubmitted will fall under the new criteria and be graded accordingly. CGC will continue to note tape on the label, as it has always done, whenever and wherever it is found on a book.

Anyone with questions can contact CGC customer service at 877-662-6642.


My bad, with tape CGC won’t give it an upgrade, but it won’t receive a downgrade either and it won’t be labelled “conserved” or “restored”.

I’m saying that according to CGC, if the tape serves a function, it won’t downgrade the book and will still get a Univetsal grade.

Not sure what your stance is. Are you saying that taping the MVS back in, doesn’t serve a function?

I guess taping it back in would just lead to more damage in the long run.


A conundrum then. To place the cut-out stamp in situ or to tape it in. Considering that the adhesive on the tape will eventually migrate and cause harm (particularly whilst sealed indie the case).
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
If this book was slabbed would it come back as a .5 incomplete or grade higher? Is the missing piece significant enough to warrant a .5?


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TRA LA LA esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC - I think it would grade around a 1.5 to 1.8, but that’s just my guess. According to CBCS grading descriptions, you could get up to a 3.0 with a cut coupon. Since this interferes with the art/story, I think it would take a bigger hit than if It didn’t. Too bad, you don’t see an Avengers #1 every day (at least I don’t).
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Beaten by boat oars Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
So if I slap some Kentucky Chrome on a spine split, then CGC just ignores it?
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@GAC - I think it would grade around a 1.5 to 1.8, but that’s just my guess. According to CBCS grading descriptions, you could get up to a 3.0 with a cut coupon. Since this interferes with the art/story, I think it would take a bigger hit than if It didn’t. Too bad, you don’t see an Avengers #1 every day (at least I don’t).


@esaravo Very cool! Thanks! The cut out is about 1/9 of a page and obviously effects art. I wasnt sure how large a section of a page needs to be missing before the .5/incomplete designation is applied.
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