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| The Dark Side will warp an individual to the point where the normality of right and wrong no longer exist. There is simply, I have a goal, anyone who stands in my way of that goal is my enemy and must be removed from the equation. | ||
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| Even Ewoks? How could you kill an Ewok? It's like beating a kitten with a meat tenderizer. | ||
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| The rebels brought the Ewoks into this, not the Empire. | ||
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| True. Those homosexual droids are to blame! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by The_Curmudgeon True but if they are killing the doctors that can help them that can't be good for the rest of us. |
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| This is why Anakin Skywalker turned against the Jedi, once he gave into the Dark Side his mind became set on a singular goal, save his wife from dying, he became convinced Palpatine was the only one who could save her from the fate in his visions. At the point the Jedi threatened Palpatine's life they instantly became obstacles to Anakin's sole purpose and thus needed to be eliminated. So form inside the point of view of a person being warped by the Dark Side they are always doing the right thing to accomplish whatever goal they have fixated upon. | ||
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| So say they achieved their goal of getting rid of the Jedi, what was the plan then? Their long term planning and goals were lacking. | ||
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| The Dark Side itself causes a sort of psychosis in the user, which is why Jedi are so careful to shield themselves from giving into that side of the Force. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego From what I understand, their goal is "order". They believe the Jedi's way of doing it has little success so they believe gaining order thru Fascism. They want to rule the galaxy to bring their version of "peace". They are not in it for the money or to destroy every living thing. If so, they could have killed millions but they don't. As Tokin said about the Death Star. It is a weapon to bring order to the galaxy and stop those who oppose them. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Oxbladder To quote the Joker, do you think a dog ever thinks about what he will do with a car if he ever catches it? |
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| I would think they thinking about chewing it or driving it around and mowing down cats and squirrels. | ||
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| I guess you have to ask the question "How was Anakin supposed to bring balance to the force". I reason there was no balance at first because there was only the Jedi, which represents "control". Control your emotions, control your thoughts, etc. Anakin, turning to the dark side, brought balance. Bringing Order and Freedom from control, freeing your emotions. I don't get how the jedi council thought he was supposed to bring balance. As far as they new, at first, there was no sith. So what balance did they think he was going to bring? |
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| Palpatine's plan was ultimately set in motion by Bane 1000 years before, to really get to motive then you have to look a Darth Bane's motive. Bane had a very hard life and I don't remember all the details of the book, but he hated and resented the Jedi and blamed them for many of his hardships, this led him to join the Sith army as a foot soldier, this was prior to him discovering he was force sensitive. The Sith recognized his power and trained him. At this point in time the Sith and Jedi were pretty much like the North and South fighting a civil war for control of the Galaxy because they could never agree. When Bane took power and killed all of the other Sith he took his own personal hatred of the Jedi to a whole new level a set a plan in motion that would take a millennia but would wipe out the entire Jedi Order once completed. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego To quote Deep Purple: It's not the kill. It's the thrill of the chase. |
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| I think the prophecy was misread by the Jedi, it was actually a warning to them. At the time there were thousands of Jedi and 2 Sith, the force was unbalanced. Anakin actually did balance the force by killing the Jedi. They misunderstood the meaning of balance because they so refused to except that you can't have light without dark. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by roarzola However, they were not all on the same page. So they were seeking order via different routes which ultimately brings them into conflict with others. Like Communism the fascist system has few checks and balances and is ripe for abuse. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego And you can't have order without consensus |
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| OMG, this so makes me want to go home and watch Star Wars tonight. Ok, back on topic. Mislabeling is bad, but they are only human. Send it back and they will fix it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Oxbladder Ah, you bring me to another excellent point. Darth Bane realized this exact problem within the Sith, they kept fighting amonst themselves for power so much that they kept failing against the Jedi. Bane solved this problem by killing the entire Sith Order and established the rule of two, one master and one apprentice, one to hold the power, the other to covet it. He established that the apprentice is to kill their Master when strong enough and take an apprentice of their own. If the apprentice failed then they failed to learn enough and were killed and a new apprentice found. This ensured that the ruling Sith would always be growing in power. |
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| This rule of two philosophy also comes into play when Darth Vader attempts to take Luke as his apprentice so he can kill Palpatine and become Master. And also Darth Taranus aka Count Dooku does the same thing when he attempted to persuade Obi Wan to join him, actually Dooku practically spends his entire time as apprentice looking for his own apprentice to help him kill Palpatine. | ||
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That didn't turn out very well in the end for the Sith |
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| The entire Sith plan, brought to it's knees by the love of a Father for his Son. And wow, this just hit me as ironic and circular because it was Bane's hatered of his own father's mistreatment that sent him down a path of darkness. Now that's poetic. | ||
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| Ya, very poetic. | ||
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And tomorrow Steve adds a new rule to the terms that threads will not be derailed with talk about Star Wars.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by roarzola I've always felt that, ultimately, it was The Force that killed his aunt and uncle. They were the one remaining obstacle keeping Luke from his destiny. The moment Luke told Ben he couldn't go with him to Alderaan sealed their fate. Yoda himself suggested such a cold fate is acceptable if it serves The Force (when he told Luke that he should sacrifice his friends on Bespin). While I didn't click the link, I find the idea of Boba Fett killing them to not make much sense. I was always under the impression it wasn't until Vader learned of Luke's existence that he brought the bounty hunters into the story. It seems odd The Empire would hire Boba Fett to find 2 droids even though he was on Tatooine at the time. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego The trilogy was awesome, and I wish they kept going with Bane. But I feel Sidious was the one Sith Lord who cheated. He brought in an apprentice (Maul) BEFORE killing Plagueis, and passed the idea along to Vader who tried to do the same with Luke. Bane was all about patience, and TOTALLY devoted to the Rule of Two. I think he would has disapproved of Sidious. |
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| BTW CBCS, it would be really nice if we had spoiler tag function on the forum. | ||
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| The link basically explains on that part that Vader was already aware of the uncle and aunt. He met them as Anakin. He didn't know about Luke but he still considered them family. So when Boba killed them, that is why Vader said that this time, no disintegration. It also said that the empire was already ruling the galaxy so why bother hiding their crimes as sandpeople. Unless you were a bounty hunter trying to cover your tracks. |
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| Yep spoiler tags are needed. Yeah Sidious totally abandoned the rule of two, because he was selfish and knew he could not kill Plagueis alone. I feel that if Bane actually did achieve the body jump he died as Plagueis. That is if Plagueis is really dead. Because that brings us to who the heck is Supreme Leader Snoke? | ||
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| I always thought the cover of Darth Plagueis and Snoke in the film were very similar. But does Snoke have to be someone other than Snoke? |
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