Best UV flash light to spot color touch7866
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| Time for me to invest in s new one. I have been looking at this one https://www.amazon.com/Blacklight-Flashlight-100-LED-Ultraviolet/dp/B078J9XS67/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_tr_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GH8V1SGH4VGBEJ68YS6Q However, before buying would like to learn what others are using with great results. |
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| Wow..that looks impressive! | ||
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| Borock uses no UV light. Doesnt need it. Or so I’ve been told. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Correct. Rumor has it that he was once blind-folded and was able to smell the color touches in 9 out of 10 books. Impressive. He's like a blood hound. |
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| @shrewbeer PS, I made that up. @poka If you find a good one let me know, I have always used a generic one. Aren't all UV lights the same? I suppose scientifically one could have "more waves" but does that help with detection? |
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I bought that one. When it arrived, I played around with it for a little bit. I shined it in the bathroom & it lit up like a Christmas tree around the toilet.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Not quite true, Steve is actually so "in tune" after so many interactions with comics that he just places his palms over the book, hums a Grateful Dead tune and feels the markings. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by RROQuote: Originally Posted by comic_book_man Lol those are some good ones I wasn’t joking though, I don’t think any of the graders here use black lights anymore |
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RRO private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Shrewbeer ~ it may or may not be true regarding the non-use of UV but just by eye can only be used properly after years of experience, as I am sure you agree. | ||
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| @poka I was serious in my 2nd post. I think other than intensity & brightness you will basically have the same result from all UV lights. The more intensity you have the more concentrated the UV rays. Any high rated UV flashlights from Amazon should all essentially be the same. Other than the spectrum of visible light(which we already see), small forms of UV would be your best bet...as infrared, microwaves, radiowaves, gamma rays, and x-rays would provide no visual indicators and/or damage your books. Magnifying glass is your next bet. Beyond that, I can't say. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka I am of the belief that using UV detectors ostensibly only works for certain colours. I stand to be corrected. |
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 This is what I use after I inject florescent dye into an AC system. It picks up the dye really well. I tried it on comic books and used a sharpie marker on the corner of a beater copy. I was not overly impressed. This one is about $50 for the light and polarized glasses. |
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comic_book_man private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @BrianGreensnips is that a color touch finder or a stun baton? Stun those restorations into submission. Bbbbbbbzzzzzzzzzzzz | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips I had a long period where I had to do 100% inspections on all circuit boards from a new supplier. The boards had a conformal coating on them. Here's an illustration of conformal coating from the web:  I had to make sure the circuit board was coated where it needed to be and free of the coating where it shouldn't be. The black light made it easy. I'd shine the light on a plug-in connector where wires are attached. With the naked eye it'd look fine. With the black light you'd see that the manufacturer was sloppy and got the coating all in the connectors and that it would interfere with a good electrical connection. Many substances that you can't see with the visible eye become very obvious with a black light. I seem to recall that paper fills are much more obvious with a black light. I recall fingerprints showing up much more clearly. You could have a NM comic looking beautiful and shine a black light on it. You'd think Col. Sanders had just eaten fried chicken and handled the comic after viewing with a black light. Sharpie would probably not show up under black light. Sharpie normally bleeds through the cover and it gets a green tint as it dries and gets old. A black light is just one inspection tool. It happens to be a good one, but it's only going to help with certain defects. When it works, the difference is as big as night and day. |
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| @X51 I should try other materials too. I just figured a black sharpie marker would be a good start. I might have to try some Frito debris or something. | ||
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| I think lighter colors and translucent substances show up better. | ||
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| Here is a good UV / Black light video..and some humor..;-) [/youtube] | ||
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Johnnylray Exactly. | ||
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| UV lights are unreliable because you can't catch all color touch, and many times it triggers on things that are not color touch. Borock doesn't use a UV light to check for color touch, nor does anyone trained by him in the office. That said, Borock is a bit of a bloodhound. He can see it most of the time before he pulls a book out of the bag. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRicketts I wouldn't call them unreliable. They are a tool. They can quickly and definitively lead your eye to some defects. Not all, but the ones it does reveal jump out at you. They become obvious. A phillips head screwdriver isn't unreliable because you tried to use it on a flat head screw. You have to utilize a UV light source for what it can find. I would not send in a book assuming that Borock was the person grading it. If he's personally looking at every book, that might explain the TAT's being lengthy. |
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| I call them unreliable because they can't catch everything. They can't even catch most things. They just catch some things. Out of all color touch, let's say 80% of it is black color touch. UV can't see 99% of black color touch. Of the remaining 20% of color touch in colors other than black, UV can catch 50% of that at best, and I'm being VERY generous. That means UV can catch, at best, 10% of color touch. That's pretty unreliable. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRicketts It was more reliable on the suspicious books I've looked at, but obviously my sampling is very small in comparison to what CBCS evaluates. Again though, it's a tool and the things you CAN see are VERY obvious. Things you'd be squinting at with the naked eye literally glow in the dark with the black light. |
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| No doubt. What it catches shines like a spotlight. It's a useful tool for confirmation in some situations, but a well trained eye is still the best defense. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRickettsSo that explains why I could not see the black sharpie on the book. I was kind of surprised that it did not pick it up. It does wonders on the fluorescent dye in the AC systems. We inject it into systems when we want to find a refrigerant leak. In this application it is awesome. I have had 100% success rate finding leaks this way. It is too bad that it was not that cut and dry with comic books. |
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SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yeah, you won't see black sharpie with UV. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRicketts SEE! SEE! Quote: Originally Posted by comic_book_man |
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poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Well 10% is better than 0% But it does highlight how subjective the process for identifying restored books is. |
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| Spotting color touch isn't subjective at all. It's there or it's not. | ||
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Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user | |
| How about simply shining a light under the cover,(upwards ,backwards I mean) etc, as light shines through will "pop" the touch ups..? | ||
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