The Great Comic Crash! What year is it? 1995? 1994?7672
Pages:
1
 Collector
|
DJC_II private msg quote post Address this user | |
  I'm sure like many of you, I read and collected comic books in the 1990s. Now, I loved the 90s. This isn't to say that there weren't, and aren't, good stories and good books being written, but I remember a time when style surpassed substance. It was 1995. At its height, The Age of Apocalypse was rocking The X-Men to their core. Spawn was hitting his peak with superstar Greg Capullo on as full time artist. Batman was recovering from his broken back. Spider-Man shook the world with the Death of Aunt May and Superman now had the Death of Clark. In 1994, the crash had already begun. I pick on 1995 because it was the last great year for comics. In 1996, The Fantastic Four, Captain America, Avengers, and Iron Man get canceled. By 1997, successful storylines were wrapping up (AoA), Spawn movie release and flop, and the Avengers were Reborn in the hands of Rob Liefeld. Oh and not to mention the small detail of Marvel filing chapter 11... What I'm saying is that everything is cyclical. I think we are inevitably entering a new time where things are wobbling, and the influx of variant covers are clear indication of a soft market. Character deaths and returns are now being drawn out over stupidly long story arcs. Death of OLM is a 12 issue maxi series? Return of Wolverine has a glow in the dark cover? Bleeding cool published a few articles highlighting how 1:25 1:50 1:100 variant covers are now available at cover price. So if you believe a crash is coming, and I feel like it is... What year is it? Is this 1992? 1993? |
||
| Post 1 • IP flag post | ||
 past performance is no guarantee of future actions.
|
KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| A new crash may be less impactful? Fewer people to drive away with stupid variants etc. In the 90's you still had kids buying comics, cover prices were $1.25 to $1.75?? and were affordable even for a kid with a paper route. Not sure how many 10-20 yr olds are currently purchasing comics but I feel safe in saying it is much much less with game consoles, phones, youtube etc. competing for their eyes and wallets. Not to mention that comics were still around at corner stores in the 90's although less so as the decade progressed. The people driving the current bubble should either know better having been around for the 90's or will discover what it was like in 90's having just missed out on it  Man...I miss having 4 or 5 new 'Collectible #1' issues on the shelf every few weeks!!!! |
||
| Post 2 • IP flag post | ||
 I'm sure whatever it was you got me was perfect.
|
PhantomEwan private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Are you familiar with the doomsday clock? If you are I would say that we are about 3 minutes to midnight. | ||
| Post 3 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
michaelekrupp private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Feels like about 1992 to me. The variant craze is still going but it is starting to run out of gas. Also the “modern slabs” craze is still gaining steam. I would think that aspect of the hobby feels more like 1990/1991 where it still has room to run before the inevitable crash. There is no doubt that the next crash will be less impactful than the crash of the 90s for the simple reason that the industry has nowhere near as far to fall. And, Kat, I do agree with you that today’s collectors really should know better. The majority of them likely went through the crash of the 90s and the b&w explosion/ glut of the 1980s as well. I guess the moral of the story is that some people never learn. | ||
| Post 4 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
IcantfindwhatIwant private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I don't get the "modern slabs" craze. I see a lot of it, and I am not bashing, I just don't see the value in it. I feel like these books are being slabbed and sold for a profit, so who is buying them and why? Are the prices of these books expected soar in 20 years? | ||
| Post 5 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Imagine having a dream where you learn books that aren't slabbed or haven't been signed by Stan lee are now rarer than their counterparts and you join a secret group of Case crackers, who specialize in removing slabs . | ||
| Post 6 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
michaelekrupp private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by IcantfindwhatIwant I am with you on this. Even in 9.8 these books will never be truly rare. Makes absolutely no sense to me. |
||
| Post 7 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Batman79 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Books are still selling out at print. Key books are key books. 9.8 moderns books CAN be pricey. Is what it is. Embrace it or pay more in the future. | ||
| Post 8 • IP flag post | ||
 COLLECTOR
|
shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It’s 1991. Peak craziness. There’s still a year or two left in the tank | ||
| Post 9 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
DJC_II private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So the feeling is 91 92... hm... so about a 5 year window before the cards fall? Quote: Originally Posted by Batman79 See, my wonder is, who is buying up these books? Because if it's all speculators, what does it matter if they are all selling out? I bring up the argument because, there was a time when comics were written because of stories. Stories kept kids, and then adults, interested. It's the stories that drew you in. I would even stretch the argument why some old covers, for lack of better term, suck. They have word bubbles and huge boxes of text, because they are trying to push people to buy what's on the inside. Now the market is almost entirely focused on the outside. @KatKomics I do agree that I think the market crash would also be less impactful, as I think there are 2 buyers now. Old collectors and Speculators. |
||
| Post 10 • IP flag post | ||
 Beaten by boat oars
|
Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| A few less flippers would be a nice thing. | ||
| Post 11 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
moodswing private msg quote post Address this user | |
| There are far less people collecting now and far less produced. That might prevent a total crash for a while. I think there will almost always be a need for slabbing companies especially with how many comics are sold online and the lack of local comic shops. | ||
| Post 13 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
michaelekrupp private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I agree that slabbing is here to stay. I truly believe that we will eventually reach a point where more golden and silver age keys will be slabbed than not. What will crash is the value of modern age slabbed books. In my opinion we are clearly approaching a bubble situation here and it’s only a matter of time before the bubble bursts. Also, there will always be people buying and reading comics. It is the recent back issue market, particularly variants, that is doomed to implode. Looking back through collecting history, any time comics that are fairly recent rapidly escalate in value, they always come back to down to earth. There are numerous examples of this with very few exceptions. | ||
| Post 14 • IP flag post | ||
 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
|
xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by moodswing I think this is probably right. Things are good now because the economy is doing well. I think the crash will be when the economy turns and people don't have spare money for rare variants and slabbing brand-new books just to see a 9.8. |
||
| Post 15 • IP flag post | ||
Pages:
1This topic is archived. Start new topic?