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CBCS launches New Logo and Brand756

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I personally love the shield. Strong, bold,trustworthy are the words that come to mind. The whole labei to me looks professional and firm.
In MY opinion, anyone who thinks it takes away from the book is mistaken.


I respect your right to an opinion even if it is only informed by a single book.

The industrialized design just doesn't do it for me. I don't care for the grade font at all. And if there's color coding for restored books (PLOD rivet border) then there's no way I can support it.

The shield alteration is fine. I'm not in opposition to modification of the shield emblem. That's a compromise to which I could easily accede.

It comes down to how well labels fit into a collection of other graded books. That's how I assess the final result. It isn't about the holder or the grading, those services fully trusted.
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I think the 24 hour vacation was a bit harsh. Really disapointed CBCS.
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I think the 24 hour vacation was a bit harsh. Really disapointed CBCS.


?

So you were put on the naughty step for a day?
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@matterus023 Yes, by Steve Rickets, not any of the moderators.
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@matterus023 Yes, by Steve Rickets, not any of the moderators.


If you want to discuss it, feel free to do so through PM.
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@SteveRicketts Served my time, nothing further to discuss. My previous posts speak for themselves. Nothing I posted has been deleted as far as I know.
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It comes down to how well labels fit into a collection of other graded books. That's how I assess the final result. It isn't about the holder or the grading, those services fully trusted.


Very well said, Catman. The Batman #1 shown above is a very "modern" looking book - which matches the style of the label. Even the color schemes match.

But what about a timeless classic such as Peanuts #1 or Cinderella Love #25? Do you want these books framed by dated steel and rivets?
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@DannyBoy I have a few Jungle Comics coming back soon I can post when I get them.
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It comes down to how well labels fit into a collection of other graded books. That's how I assess the final result. It isn't about the holder or the grading, those services fully trusted.


Very well said, Catman. The Batman #1 shown above is a very "modern" looking book - which matches the style of the label. Even the color schemes match.

But what about a timeless classic such as Peanuts #1 or Cinderella Love #25? Do you want these books framed by dated steel and rivets?


Good point
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And if there's color coding for restored books (PLOD rivet border) then there's no way I can support it.



Can anyone at CBCS confirm this? Please don't tell me that we have CBCS PLOD issue here.
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It comes down to how well labels fit into a collection of other graded books. That's how I assess the final result. It isn't about the holder or the grading, those services fully trusted.


Very well said, Catman. The Batman #1 shown above is a very "modern" looking book - which matches the style of the label. Even the color schemes match.

But what about a timeless classic such as Peanuts #1 or Cinderella Love #25? Do you want these books framed by dated steel and rivets?


I'd say it would be down to the owner of those books to make that decision
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And if there's color coding for restored books (PLOD rivet border) then there's no way I can support it.



Can anyone at CBCS confirm this? Please don't tell me that we have CBCS PLOD issue here.


Would that be the last rivet in the coffin?
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Excited to get my 90 books back with new label.
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Excited to get my 90 books back with new label.


Old or new label, I am excited to get my books back.
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can we see more photos of new labels please? anyone who just got some in? I have about 25 waiting in processing.
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And if there's color coding for restored books (PLOD rivet border) then there's no way I can support it.



Can anyone at CBCS confirm this? Please don't tell me that we have CBCS PLOD issue here.


Would that be the last rivet in the coffin?


I see what you did there. Lol
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can we see more photos of new labels please? anyone who just got some in? I have about 25 waiting in processing.


I have seven books coming back three from the 2000's, two from the late 40's, and two from the late 60's. I will post the images when I get them.
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can we see more photos of new labels please? anyone who just got some in? I have about 25 waiting in processing.


I have seven books coming back three from the 2000's, two from the late 40's, and two from the late 60's. I will post the images when I get them.


Thanks for doing this. I would love to see some actual examples up close.
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And if there's color coding for restored books (PLOD rivet border) then there's no way I can support it.



Can anyone at CBCS confirm this? Please don't tell me that we have CBCS PLOD issue here.


I can confirm via Steve Ricketts that that there is no color coding for restored books versus unrestored books.
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@Kinzebac no problem!
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It isn't about the holder or the grading, those services fully trusted.
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In the video you can see a regular label with "Married" on it. So same as the old label, restoration gets noted on the label without changing the color of the label.
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@CatmanAmerica, you're quite right Catman. 1 book with the new label is not indicative of how various books done in various styles with various artists will look.
It's essential that we see a wider variety of books from different eras before coming to a proper conclusion. I doubt however that many minds will change. If you already like or dislike the change, your point of view will likely stay the same.
Welcome back @DarthLego !!!
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In the video you can see a regular label with "Married" on it. So same as the old label, restoration gets noted on the label without changing the color of the label.


Well, that's one less concern to address.
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@SilverAgeFan Thanks, I missed you guys.
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What I don't want to happen is a flipping around on labels every few years. Get one and stick with it.


This. A label in this context should be consistent for at least a decade, in my opinion. Perhaps very minor tweaks, but fundamentally the same for a very long time.

The original, beautiful design could have lasted for many years. This new design... well, I think some of those who don't like it are being particularly vocal right now. This is because the corporate response to this sort of this is usually something like: "Let's revisit this in six months, see if the new label is still a problem for anyone by then. I think even the dissenters will grow to love it." And those who don't like (or really hate) the new label? Well, we just don't want to wait six months for a fix (or the chance of a fix). There is, I believe, the feeling that if it doesn't get fixed right away, it will persist for years.

And six months from now, it won't really be a *noticeable* problem anyway. Because CBCS has a fundamentally sound product and has done a great job - by all reports I've seen and read online - grading and protecting comic books. And business is booming. (Hence the longer wait times and "now hiring" posts.) Unfortunately by then, there will be another six months worth of - sorry - ugly labels out there. That fact will make it even less likely the label will be changed.

Part of the problem, too, is: these guys have been working on this rebranding effort for months (I assume). They had certain elements that they wanted the new design to address; they've tweaked it dozens of different ways, internally; and everyone in the loop was satisfied with the final design ... or at least stopped voicing dissent.

My gut tells me CBCS has been quite surprised there is any negative reaction at all. And I also suspect cognitive dissonance will be at play here, in the contrast between expectations and reality, pushing the narrative: "It's just a very vocal, and very small, minority. Most people love the new design. And most of the rest don't care one way or the other."

My judgement is, if CBCS doesn't announce a revisiting of the change, or offer to continue using the old labels for some customers, by the middle of next week, then the decision will be: let it lie, see where we are in six months. And they will probably make a post that says definitively: this is the label going forward, it's not going to change back.

I can already see how such an announcement will start ... "To our customers: Since we unveiled our new corporate brand on Friday we have been overwhelmed by the positive response. There are a lot of folks out there who get what we are trying to do, and support our efforts to redesign our brand and to highlight the best of CBCS - protecting comics for decades to come. To those we say: Thank you. Your support is incredibly important, both to us personally, and for the future success of this company.

"Moving forward, we will continue to solicit feedback from our customers and clients, and we will always strive to provide the best possible product and the best possible service.

"Inevitably, as with any company that changes and grows over time, there will be some who prefer things to stay the way they are..."

[FYI - the utter predictability of such a message should not be interpreted as impinging on, or refuting in any way, it's sincerity.]
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CBCS should be like coca-cola imo
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@matterus023 Thank you. Im not even that mad at cbcs. I understand ill have to wait til tomorrow to sort this out. The peanut gallery chiming in on what i should do with my money or how i should feel is the frustrating part.


Don't let the peanut gallery get to you. Some are just fanboys of this brand. I on the other hand believe those who PAY for a service should get what they PAID for. Its like buying a brand new red car but instead you get a brand new orange car... Sure a car is a car but its not what you paid for.
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@Tedsaid,if you're not already some company's spokesperson,press secretary or Vice President for publi relations, you have missed your calling.
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