Shouldn’t pressing taken care of this????7541

Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944
High Dollar Books..... Maybe


But I see pressing services as nothing more than a waste of time money grab on 90% of the books people send in.

I think many are baited by unrealistic expectations of these services that are nothing more than restoration work that has been accepted by the "Powers that be" to profit from.

Originally Posted by Watcher
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Originally Posted by CFP_Comics
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Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944
High Dollar Books..... Maybe


But I see pressing services as nothing more than a waste of time money grab on 90% of the books people send in.

I think many are baited by unrealistic expectations of these services that are nothing more than restoration work that has been accepted by the "Powers that be" to profit from.

What you say is true, to a certain degree. If an uneducated collector/flipper sends in books and says press them all, that is what the majority of people doing the pressing will do. If you are reputable and care about your customers, you will let them know (a quick email usually does it) that certain books wont benefit from a press or simply do not need it.

For those that concerned with TAT's weight your options and take all the factors into play as to where your books go to be pressed.

I've used you and I like your service...I just think we're losing sight of the discussion here. This isn't necessarily about fine tuning the number of suitable books for press or even who does it better. I think there's a great deal of uneducated collectors (including myself) when it comes to the press and I learn as I go. The only issue I have is that this has turned into a money maker that no one wants to miss out on, so the masses flock to press everything, the TAT's get bogged down and the companies do what all companies do : "yes sir, we can do that" even if they have to sacrifice quality somewhere. Competition is healthy, but it's also a beast and can cause spill over.

Light finger bends should not show up in grading after a press..period. If they do, I can only think of a few reasons why:
1) it wasnt pressed and the owner got porked - especially if he needed a 9.8 to clear profit and the only flaws are still light bends. Very specific example, but still very common.
2) the bends happened after the press (whether from handling in house or out house). It happens...it blows..but hey...plenty of books make 9.8 so it doesn't happen often and there's no real way to manage it.
3) most likely scenario : the books were pressed properly and because everyone's in a rush, they weren't held to assess reversion and 80% of the books are just pushed through the system . The TAT's are so far behind that reversion is inevitable and the press becomes nullified and the owner gets porked. No one is going to slow down ..just not going to happen...so the only viable option is to pick carefully, make sure there is true value in the press and send it to a guy you know for certain will hold on to it long enough to fix the bends (which means suck up the wait time and stop complaining about TATs) or pay extra for the 2 day (in which case, it better be a big book or by the time you're done shipping, pressing, slabbing and re-shipping, you've spent more on the book than you could get selling it "as is" raw)

Originally Posted by Watcher
Light finger bends should not show up in grading after a press..period. If they do, I can only think of a few reasons why:

Originally Posted by SteveRicketts
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Originally Posted by Watcher
Light finger bends should not show up in grading after a press..period. If they do, I can only think of a few reasons why:

Not all bends are created equal. Pressing is not a cure-all that magically makes 9.8s. Sometimes a defect will disappear, others, the same defect will just be improved.

I do have record of the books from the original post being pressed. We allow time for reversion, so it's very rare for it to show up after it leaves out office. If the user wants to send me a PM, I'd be happy to look at the problem further.

Originally Posted by KingNampa
My understanding is that “In-house” pressing is supposed to be more beneficial because it limits the amount of time from pressing to grading. Reversion can take place post grade in some cases, but who cares cause it is already slabbed.

Does CBCS call it in house pressing still? Cause technically it is no longer “in house”. New name suggestion: CBCS Cross State Pressing Service

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Originally Posted by KingNampa
My understanding is that “In-house” pressing is supposed to be more beneficial because it limits the amount of time from pressing to grading. Reversion can take place post grade in some cases, but who cares cause it is already slabbed.

Does CBCS call it in house pressing still? Cause technically it is no longer “in house”. New name suggestion: CBCS Cross State Pressing Service

Lol. Why would it limit the amount of time between pressing and grading if they also have to ship the package? Does in-house pressing reduce books TAT's? I seriously doubt so!

For example you use 3rd party presser. They press and then mail the books to cgc. There is that added 1 week ship time and danger of damage during shipment. Versus in house CGC Pressing and grading. They are in the same building, so no shipping delays or danger of damage during said shipping.