Heroes in Crisis - who dies - please be Jason Todd!!!7366
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| So DC is doing a series about heroes with PTSD and someone dies. Anyone agree that they need to rectify the Jason Todd issue?? I mean people paid money to vote to kill that little so and so and then they brought him back....sure sure, from another universe or what ever and like 20-30 years later..but still...when you kill a character why can't they stay dead or if you are on the fence then don't make it a definitive death. Same goes for Kraven in my books - this guy should be dead |
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| No one of interest (or marketability) stays dead in comic books. Whoever DC "kills" here may well reappear months or years later. Besides, from what I've read someone using an early computer auto-dialer stuffed that ballot. If it had been one vote per person, Jason would have lived. |
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| I don't think death is something we should endorse or encourage. Life is precious. | ||
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| In comics, for main characters, only their parents stay dead (for the most part). Sorry Batman. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan This. And I disagree they need to rectify the issue. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan No way, didn't happen. It wasn't an 800 number, it was a 900 number, and they charged $.50 per call. Using an autodialer would be pretty expensive. For the record I called in and voted to kill him off. The character was terrible, and not popular among anyone I knew. We just hated the brat. He was the Scrappy Doo of Batman comics. I was surprised at the time, actually shocked, that the vote was even close. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo LOL - So True. But as I think about it, a story arc where Batman's parents return from the grave might be kinda interesting..... Quote: Originally Posted by Tedsaid 1-900 numbers were billed at regular long distance rates for callers. If you lived within the calling area, there would have been no charge. If you lived in a nearby area, the charge would have been small. Denny O'Neil stated he was told it was one person. Below from wikipedia, which is directly cited. "Years later, O'Neil said it was possible that hundreds of votes in the "Jason Dies" line came from a single person, adding a large degree of uncertainty to the honesty of results regarding a poll designed to determine the character's popularity. "I heard it was one guy, who programmed his computer to dial the thumbs down number every ninety seconds for eight hours, who made the difference", O'Neil said in a Newsarama interview conducted alongside writer Judd Winick during the "Under The Hood" arc." Actually, further research indicates that by the time of this vote ATT may have indeed been charging .50 cents a call. Maybe someone hated Jason enough to cough up $160 LOL (the estimate is they made 320 calls/votes) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan Reading over that, my post wasn't clear ... I wasn't doubting that you heard that, but it maybe came across badly. Anyway, I'd read that bit from Denny O'Neil before too, so I get where you are coming from. I just don't think it happened the way he says. It's true that 900 numbers can be billed in different ways. They could also (at the time) be set up for a specific charge, no more and no less. This one was set up for a $.50 charge by DC for each call. So there MAY have been a guy with an autodialer, but he would have had to pay out the ass to do it ... $160 for 320 votes, the way he states it. Who would do that? Especially if you don't know how close it is, which we didn't. Anyway, that's why I think O'Neil is wrong about this, and shouldn't pass along (or start) rumors. |
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| I guess it's a question of is it a rumor O'Neil heard or is it fact. If this was a billed call, then there were people at the phone company and at DC that KNEW FOR SURE what phone numbers called into the "thumbs down" number. They had to know who called in order to know who to bill. $160 sounds like a lot of money to some people - and pocket change to others. I believe it entirely possible a fan that 1) hated the Jason Todd character and 2) Had money and 3) could program or find an autodialer for his PC decided to try to tilt the vote. I have some experience with this type of voting - though it was toll free. I participated in the "Vote for the Worst" website with American Idol for years. I had two phone lines, multiple computers and autodialing program. I would cast 600+ votes in the hours voting was open We kept Sanjaya Malakar on way, way longer than he deserved  |
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