Why Do You Slab or Buy Slabbed Books?7312
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| 3 & 4 I like the way books look when encapsulated - and I like how well they are protected. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim Part of the skills package is pressing, I find it fun, only do it for me though |
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| For my personal collection its mostly for signature witness/verification. If Im buying a book online I will try to get the slab because if I cant inspect it myself I like that I can get a reliable idea of the books actual condition. |
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| Primarily 5 and 6..maybe someday 1 I have books that I got signed before any grading companies existed and send in for verification once in a while and less and less I get witnessed books. I have been bitten once or twice with colour touch and for anything above about $100 it is nice to have had it "cleared" already. I almost never sell/trade my books but maybe someday I will.... |
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| I'm a "all the above" person. There are just too many positives to a slabbed book now. The only downsides are you can't actually read it and it takes up more space-has more weight, but in most cases you can get a reasonably priced mid or lower grade reader copy to pair with your nice slabbed copy. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I guess #3-5...I don't really plan on selling anything I've submitted..at least not in the near future. Being fairly new to this game, with my first two orders still being in CBCS possession and a third order going in next month these are the reasons to date that I've submitted books. Books I've had since childhood that I could go out and buy a new version fairly cheaply for grading, but I want to preserve the memories associated with the books. I know for a fact I submitted a book that has a $20 value at a 9.4, but mine will probably be an 8.0...It's a memorably cover from my childhood, but those ticks and rough corners have memories attached to them (I want to preserve those ticks and corners..if that makes sense! LOL)...it'll never be sold for profit in any way at all and probably only means something to me. I imagine someday someone will say "Why the hell did this get graded?"...that person probably wouldn't understand the motivation. Signature verification, these are for the personal collection...I plan on only submitting one book per autograph unless it's from one of the Star Wars runs and then I'll probably do multiples signatures of different books. These are for the Personal Collection...so I don't really need more than one (unless it's someone I REALLY like). Books I wanted as a kid and couldn't stretch my allowance far enough to buy...I'm searching out decent copies for collection and for grading...(G.I. Joe, certain X-Books, Spider-Man, Lots of Hobgoblin stuff) Variants...if I like the cover a lot I'll submit it. Again, usually Star Wars or Marvel stuff...I've been treading lightly with variants because while the value is by demand on these, I know the demand drops the later the book is out so I better like the cover!!! When you look at book value and cost associated with grading some of the books above don't make sense financially, but that's not why I'm doing it...all that aside if I scoop up a book that Purchase Price + Grading Costs = Less than Current Market Value then it goes in automatically (this has happened a few times), those books may get sold one day... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC 2 - Grading is subjective and there can be a wide range of opinions about what constitutes a grade. I know that there are guidelines that you can follow, but so much of the grading is experience. You may have a slab that you disagree with the grade on, but for the most part a third party grade is absolute. You can depend on it (depending on company). There is a degree of confidence that a slab provides that isn't there in a raw book. 3 - If I have a 9.8 or a 5.5 in a slab, it is always going to stay in that condition. It is like freezing the book in time. There isn't a fear that the book will interact with the environment and suffer from the effects of time. We all take care of our raw books, but the atmosphere, moisture, and acidity of storage materials could eventually affect the condition. 5 - Unless you witnessed the signature yourself, you can't be truly sure that it is authentic in a raw condition. COA's are worthless. The only way to be certain that the signature is authentic is through verification or witness services. Even in the event that you did witness a signature yourself, if you eventually end up selling the book, the buyer doesn't have the same confidence that they would with a slab. 9 - because they are freaking awesome and I am an addict. |
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| I find #2 intriguing. I am in mechanical engineering and am fascinated in my business by Marketing, Program Management, and other departments who use the word "accuracy" to be definitive and absolute without data or even when they have conflicting data! They just toss around "accuracy" in sentences as if it is a reality because it is inferred in the sentence. I am just expected to believe it. For those that picked #2 I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on: 1. the perceived differences between very old CGC cases and newer ones. Why would age matter? Isn't a 9.2 in 2005 a 9.2 in 2018? If not, how can 9.2 for your book be considered an "accurate" grade? 2. Cracking cases and getting different grades 2nd time around without doing anything to the comic. How can round 1 be "accurate"? Or maybe it's round #2 that's "accurate". Or is your own subjectivity more "accurate" than round 1 and round 2? 3. the need to still "buy the comic" not the slab that pervades the slabbing community. Why not buy the grade if all (example) 9.6 comics are exactly what they are stated as being.... 9.6. Is it because we all really know... wink wink .... "well that's not really the situation necessarily that it is a 9.6, unless I think it too". 4. Perceived differences in grading BETWEEN the companies. Isn't a 9.4 the same regardless of company? If not, how can a 9.4 in one company be assumed to be accurate if it would be graded as 9.2 by another after regrade? And Is 0.2 delta truly discernible? Is 0.4? I know we're lead to believe it; but I've seen enough evidence to question it. 5. Differences in age. Why are Silver /Bronze allowed more leeway in grading than Moderns? (Rhetorical - I know the answer). It may be appropriate and justified, but is it "accurate"? I do not understand the tremendous $$$ premium on already slabbed books for accuracy based on one or more of the points made above. I'm quite happy to hear those that drink the accuracy kool-aid; and I guess it's one of the major reasons for some paying premiums on my books I've sold for wonderful profit. However, I would not and could not select #2 as a reason. Sorry, but accuracy and subjectivity do not belong in the same sentence except on opposite ends of the spectrum. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 You do make valid points! I am also an engineer but the civil kind and find that the grading subjectivity of CBCS aligns more properly with my perception of grade and how it is determined but both companies might differ in grading standards as neither has ever divulged what their standards are. Whatever the answer is I would rather purchase a high value comic within a slab as the option of trusting the grade a seller gives has proved to be bad buys as once sent for grading they have always come in lower than stated in auctions. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim Wouldn't it be nice (I know, I know... it'd never happen) if grades were given a range. Example 8.5 - 9.0. Yea yea... the industry would go bananas and pissed off and etc etc etc. But it'd be the right thing to do and would allow for "Tolerances" in subjectivity. Even piece parts that have dimensions that a manufacturer is to build to, have tolerances. And that's with Measuring equipment!! |
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| The few I have cracked and resubmitted got the exact same grade, across companies. I won’t bother anymore | ||
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SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I would just say have the industry revert to previous standards which were NM, VF, F, VG, G, F, P, I |
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Quote:Originally Posted by doog And others (like myself) have not. That's a problem ... a big one |
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| Typically, I would get slabbed to make the selling process easier and cleaner. If I slab for myself, it has to obviously be a comic that I never want to open again. It's either a nice copy and I have a lower grade duplicate, or it's one that has nothing interesting in it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Well, getting a crappier grade would indeed, suck |
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| Let us not forget only a slabbed graded book can easily be insured (past victim of Hurricane Sandy). I prefer buying raw keys (Always ask seller for additional photos if unsure of condition)and if I feel 8.0 or higher will get slabbed. Good discussion. Nuff said ... | ||
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| I slabbed my keys for protection and my wife knows if a book is graded to pay extra attention when attempting to sell it over the rest of the drek. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 @Nuffsaid111, I've been curious about this, on a book that the guide says is $50 are you routinely getting the cost of encapsulation over the $50 in your sales? I ask because I've seen others on here say they don't usually slab unless the value of the book is over $100-150 as there's no upside. I would assume they are not getting the cost of grading/slabbing in their sale price. I'd like to hear your experience as I have a few $40-50 keys that I would like to sell. But have been hesitant to take the hit of selling them raw. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by michaelekrupp A slab is not any guaranatee of the grade...and many well versed collectors can distinguish a badly graded slabbed book from one that is more accurate...that aside from and nevermind that CGC posts no definitive grading standards they follow which means their grades vs another companies could be arbitrary. While in general a slabbed graded book is suggestive of a fairly accurate idea where the book is...it is by no means the final word, nor should it be. For lack of better words, buy the book, not the slab. |
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| Good point. The two slabs I did sell were because I thought the grade was weak. Still, there is some security in third party grading. Much less chance of a dealer trying to tell you your NM comic is actually a restored FN plus. | ||
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| Slabs are a nice step in the proper direction ....I remember a LCS that is now defunct however the operator would always sale price books by CVM and purchase by Overstreet annual....once Overstreet began publishing a quarterly update, we busted the guy using an older copy stapled inside the cover of a new edition. Nowdays collectors are more well informed, use graded slabs and they have a far better idea what they are buying and selling..... | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town So by doing that you are accepting that you were ripping him off? |
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KYoung_1974 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SpiderTim Maybe I read it wrong, but I think he was saying the LCS owner was the one using the older guide and ripping folks off. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KYoung_1974 My bad @Darkseid_of_town , sorry I read it wrong too early in the morning! |
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