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Why Do You Slab or Buy Slabbed Books?7312

I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Whats your motivation for slabbing or buying slabbed books?

1- Selling/Resale value purposes?
2- Desire for accurate grades?
3- Preservation/Archival reasons?
4- Cosmetic reasons?
5- Signature Witnessed/Verification?
6- Restoration/Trimmed Check?
7- All of the above?
8- None of the above?
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Collector Pacoma7623 private msg quote post Address this user
Book specifically, all of the above
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Collector Pacoma7623 private msg quote post Address this user
Also gotta add on the signature witness/verification for the older artists for me
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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Also gotta add on the signature witness/verification for the older artists for me


Excellent point on sig verification!!

I'll add that to my list above.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
for me, its reasons 3 and 4 and definitely 5 when the occasion arises.
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Collector vvv private msg quote post Address this user
@Pacoma7623 @GAC

For me is definitely the Signature Verification.
Second is the Grade Value which endorses the Signature.
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Collector michaelekrupp private msg quote post Address this user
The main reason I buy slabbed books is for the restoration check. The other reason is that when the time comes to sell (which may be never) I don’t want there to be any haggling about the grade.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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The main reason I buy slabbed books is for the restoration check. The other reason is that when the time comes to sell (which may be never) I don’t want there to be any haggling about the grade.


Another excellent reason for sure...restoration check! I'll add that to the list.

For me, grade is less important (I'll likely never sell my personal collection) but I recognize its very important when it's time to sell.
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Collector andy49 private msg quote post Address this user
restoration check, especially when buying expensive books
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Collector Cosmic_Shel private msg quote post Address this user
#1: I took some of my raw silver age key books to the 2017 SDCC, and the cash amounts I was offered made me nauseous. The grades the dealers used to formulate their prices ended up being lower than CGC graded 6 of the 7 books I had taken. Now I surely don't fault them, as they need to make a profit, and it's best to error on the side of caution. But when I left there, I knew that I'd have them professionally graded myself, and sell them online. We live in a great age, where everyone can be a part-time dealer of just about anything.

#2 & #6: I faced the grim reality that many of the raw books I bought in the 90's as NM+ and NM/M, from some of the big dealers at the time, came back from CGC many grades lower. Luckily only a couple had amateur color touch restoration on them. Ironically one was Marvel Super-Heroes 12, which is the 1st appearance of Mar-Vell, my favorite character. These days, I only buy certified books, pre-1976.

#5: The signature verification service is really handy, and I hope to use it more once the long grading delays are under control.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
The answer to the original post is....yes.
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Johnny, where are your buccaneers?
Johnny: Under my buccan hat.
Gotlift private msg quote post Address this user
All of the above + signature verification
And of course anything let’s say over 300.00
I find it saves a lot of disappointments buying a nm raw book only to have it come in as a fine. Pictures are great BUT. Camera and lighting angles can be deceptive. Some people don’t show the back or the inside. And the biggest thing is focus and the amount or size of the pixels the camera has. This is seen when you expand or blow up the picture.
So slabbing though subjective kind of answers or locks in the grade. Now this will not stop dishonest people from cracking it and putting in a lower grade book. But that happens in anything used you buy. Cars, appliances etc. I’m just saying in my case the higher the price the better I feel with a slabbed book. ALSO. Buying from a reputable dealer/person is probably the 1st most important thing.
This is just my opinion please.
As always good luck and 🖖
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
I have been adding mostly SA books to my collection, and would rather not pay for books that have been trimmed or had color touch applied to them. So I prefer to buy them slabbed when I can, especially books valued over $100 or more, and will pay a small premium for that sense of security.
I have been slowly slabbing SA, BA, and CA books from my collection for about 4 years, and even included a few moderns in a recent submittal. I do like how they look, but I would say that for older books, the primary reasons are preservation and accurate grades. For newer books I would say accurate grades and resale value. I have used the witnessed signature option on a few books and like that option. I have not yet used the verified signature option, but would if CBCS would include a photo of the signed splash page (or wherever the sigs are) with their free notes for books with sigs inside the book.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
The market has gone to slabbed books as the best possible way to make ridiculous profit so that's why I slab my comics. What other hobby/profession can you purchase something for $5, do something to that purchase for $30 and then sell for $100 (as a typical example).

Quite frankly, with all the subjectivity and other nonsense that folks complain about I would never slab a book for me personally to retain. I'm quite capable as should all others in the hobby of determining grade. I don't even want to get into the insignificance of 0.2 in grade. That's for another discussion.

Admittedly, restoration is a problem and wish there was a service just for that.

In the end, as long as everyone else loves slabbed comics and everyone believes there is a difference, then so do I
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#1 for me. Selling comics is a hobby of mine. I've been slowly selling my collection (from when I was a kid - 70s) and I can usually increase the value of a comic by getting it slabbed.

As far as restoration check - don't really care that much. The market has spoken, and it has said that CT is very bad. GREAT FOR ME! I know I'm in the minority here, but when it comes to my PC, a small amount of CT doesn't bother me in the least. When I buy a book for my PC, my ideal seller is one selling it raw with a small amount of CT on it. I can usually get it dirt cheap. I think the typical comic collector just wants to get said comic gone.

I have no graded comics in my PC, but I only sell comics that have been slabbed.
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Johnny, where are your buccaneers?
Johnny: Under my buccan hat.
Gotlift private msg quote post Address this user
Nuffsaid111. Check out the baseball/football card market or the coin market. They slab there also and the price goes up with slabbing. The authentification and grading market has always demanded higher prices
PSA certification for signatures/autographs on just about anything also demands higher prices. This kind of keeps things on the up & up. I once bought a Frank Sinatra autographed movie script (with a guarantee from the seller). Sent it to PSA for certification and it came back False (signed by his secretary). I did get a refund but it still cost me to have it checked.
Just have fun and 🖖
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Collector DavidM private msg quote post Address this user
The books I get slabbed are mostly for my PC, and some for selling. I haven’t sold any yet but intend to over time. I have numerous books that I will get signature verification on at a later date. I hope to downsize my collection and keep the best or most important to me.

I’m not worried about restoration because most were bought new, and the back issues bought were fillers. I’ll only buy slabbed when I get keys.
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
I first used CGC to slab some comics to authenticate the signature of creators signing them. Then in 2009 I started down the path of collecting OA so I thought I would slab my comics to resell at a higher value adding signatures to them. Once they came back I loved how they looked and couldn't bare to sell them. I sell some of my slabs occasionally specially when I don't like a book but it has value. So in order of preference this is why I slab my comics.

1. Signature Witnessed/Verification
2. Selling/Resale value purposes
3. Desire for accurate grades (This only applies to CBCS services as I find CGC is highly erratic in their grades and also of value because it is performed by a neutral third party that SHOULD have no vested interest in grading the book either higher or lower depending if its for sale or purchase purposes)
4. I also like all the information placed on the label as you have everything necessary from that comic (Fingers crossed if they could add grader's notes to the back of the book and eliminate additinal cost to purchase them or to have to do an internet search for them!)
5. Restoration/Trimmed Check (this one comes in last because I don't have many SA or GA books that are more prone to being restored)
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Collector BabaLament private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC For half of the books I put on slab, its #1 (Selling/Resale value purposes); as having a slab/grade takes most of the subjectivity (arguments on the subject are over in another thread, this is purely my perspective; I could be wrong) out of making a sale. The flaws/defects have been taken into consideration by a professional, so there are fewer things to haggle about w/ prospective buyers. I think it makes things easier.

For the other half, those books go under #3 (Preservation/Archival reasons). My personal collection books are not, for the most part, the most valuable comics ever printed. They are books that mean something to me. Aliens/Predator - Deadliest of the Species, aside from being an awesome read, could be located on the Periodic Table of Comics right next to Power Pack #1 & the 90's X-Men as one of the most common/easy to find comics ever printed. Its also the first book my dad & I bought on the first time we walked into a comic shop. My mom bought me a gold foil copy of Lethal Protector #1 for my 16th birthday. Sentimental value, for me, makes it work putting on a slab. My Aliens mini-comics, I think they are awesome because I love the Aliens story/lore, and over both companies (CBCS & CGC), I'm the first guy to have the idea (or be crazy enough) to put them on slab. In this hobby/business, how many people can honestly say they have a truly unique item that doesn't involve remark or signatures? I can! Was it worth it? Financially, probably not; but they're a great conversation starter, and most people think its pretty cool on display w/ the toys.
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Collector IcantfindwhatIwant private msg quote post Address this user
Great question. For me it’s always originally #3, I never have intentions of selling the books I grade. That being said, I have sold many of them for profit in order to upgrade. So my reasons are #3, and #1.
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Collector Drbearsec private msg quote post Address this user
1,2,3,5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GAC
Whats your motivation for slabbing or buying slabbed books?

1- Selling/Resale value purposes?
2- Desire for accurate grades?
3- Preservation/Archival reasons?
4- Cosmetic reasons?
5- Signature Witnessed/Verification
6- Restoration/Trimmed Check
7- All of the above?
8- None of the above?


Each reason is preferential to raw for older, more fragile books, which is what I collect and occasionally barter. Essentially, all of the above (7).

My order of personal motivation is probably 3, 4, 6, 2, 1 and finally 5.

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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
I purchase them for reason 6. I don't slab my books because I trust my grading, and it saves a ton of cash for comics I want.
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
I buy raw almost exclusively and slab for the fun of seeing how good my skills are. Some go in my retirement fund boxes, 15 or so will be on the walls of my nursing home, for awhile, anyway. I also do 3 sometimes 5 sometimes. And I will slab my losers, helps get the stink out of the house.
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Collector SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by doog
I buy raw almost exclusively and slab for the fun of seeing how good my skills are. Some go in my retirement fund boxes, 15 or so will be on the walls of my nursing home, for awhile, anyway. I also do 3 sometimes 5 sometimes. And I will slab my losers, helps get the stink out of the house.


So no pressing before slabbing?
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
3 & 4

I like the way books look when encapsulated - and I like how well they are protected.
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by SpiderTim
Quote:
Originally Posted by doog
I buy raw almost exclusively and slab for the fun of seeing how good my skills are. Some go in my retirement fund boxes, 15 or so will be on the walls of my nursing home, for awhile, anyway. I also do 3 sometimes 5 sometimes. And I will slab my losers, helps get the stink out of the house.


So no pressing before slabbing?

Part of the skills package is pressing, I find it fun, only do it for me though
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Collector JustABitEvil private msg quote post Address this user
For my personal collection its mostly for signature witness/verification.

If Im buying a book online I will try to get the slab because if I cant inspect it myself I like that I can get a reliable idea of the books actual condition.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
Primarily 5 and 6..maybe someday 1

I have books that I got signed before any grading companies existed and send in for verification once in a while and less and less I get witnessed books.

I have been bitten once or twice with colour touch and for anything above about $100 it is nice to have had it "cleared" already.


I almost never sell/trade my books but maybe someday I will....
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COLLECTOR Foghorn_Sam private msg quote post Address this user
I'm a "all the above" person. There are just too many positives to a slabbed book now. The only downsides are you can't actually read it and it takes up more space-has more weight, but in most cases you can get a reasonably priced mid or lower grade reader copy to pair with your nice slabbed copy.
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