Witnessing Your Own Books?730
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cjbehr948 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Apologies if this has already been asked; didn't see the thread. I've got a chance to meet WWE Hall of Famer Sting in September in Philadelphia. In my collection is a copy of "The Walking Dead" #109 with a custom cover featuring Sting holding Negan's weapon of choice, Lucille. It's been graded as a 9.8 by CGC with their Yellow Label. Needless to say, I want to add Sting to the book & keep the Yellow Label. Would it be possible for me to get approved as a witness for the event, witness my own book, & send it down with the CGC label for regrading? Any information would be greatly appreciated. If anyone's interested in seeing the art, here it is. Artwork is by Scott Blair. Stock image used for reference.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by cjbehr948 This is a CBCS forum. Why are you talking about wanting to send it to the other group? smh Trolling at it's dumbest. |
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gabriel85301 It's really not a tough question to understand. You'd be better directed to ask Steve Paulus about it. Because you would be witnessing your own book, that's where an issue could arise. Cool cover by the way. My dad took me to see Sting wrestle Ric Flair way back in the day when it was still the NWA. |
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Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by cjbehr948 I sure hope not. |
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Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gabriel85301 Read it again, he never said he was sending it to CGC. Why would he ask to become a CBCS witness if he was sending it to CGC? |
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lightsmith private msg quote post Address this user | |
| No way should this guy ever be a witness. You can authenticate your own anything ever it's just not right. | ||
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JWKyle private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Stelbert_StyltonIs this how some of the CGC guys do it ? I don't know if they travel in packs or not to witness each other. |
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SilverAgeFan private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @JWKyle, check the "upcoming "events" tab. Most shows, CBCS has AW's onsite. | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| You can't be your own witness, that defeats the whole point of a witness. A witness by definition is an uninterested third party that CBCS has put trust into excepting their word. | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Was that question for real? Come on now. | ||
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cjbehr948 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Stelbert_Stylton & @Studley_Dudley: Good to know some folks here can read, unlike @Gabriel85301. It wasn't trolling; it was a legitimate question. Thank you both for the info! @DarthLego: Thank you for the info! You've been really helpful here. @BrianGreensnips: Yeah...how dare I ask a question! |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If CBCS is at the event, you shouldn't have a problem finding an AW. If CBCS is not attending the event, well you were already out of luck, they have to be there to receive it from the AW so there is an unbroken chain of custody. | ||
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cjbehr948 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DarthLego: Thanks for clarifying. It's a wrestling convention, so I wouldn't expect any presence from comic grading companies. So basically, if I get it signed, it's coming back red. Noted! | ||
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The_Curmudgeon private msg quote post Address this user | |
| You could find an AW nearby who also likes wrestling & take them with you. | ||
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cjbehr948 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @The_Curmudgeon: Thanks! I'll look into that option as well. | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If it makes you feel better, that book would look awesome in a red label, matches the artwork. | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Ok. | ||
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Gabriel85301 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Ok, going to that, Those Midtown COAs aren't really valid are they, I mean they are but, RED Label Correct? | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| As far as I know COA books will get red labels, because CBCS has no way to verify that you did not swap in a different book. There's nothing wrong with a red label, it means the sig is legit. If a books fails certification it won't be slabbed. | ||
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QuantumTunnelRat private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego This is correct. A COA is not sufficient for the ASP (yellow) label. You must have a Witness Authorized by CBCS to get a yellow label, no exceptions. |
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dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DarthLego While I'm glad the red label is an option and have and will continue to use it, it technically doesn't mean that the signature is authentic. It means that someone that we put trust in (CSA) believes the signature is consistent with other, authentic examples. Despite our trust in them, they're not infallable. An extreme example would be if an artist's signs a book significantly different (like writing with their off-hand for whatevwr reason) and CSA has no record of a them using that signature then it will likely fail, despite having been signed by the person. This is an extreme example but I used it to highlight the limitation of the red label and why yellow, witnessed signatures are still preferred by most. | ||
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DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I hope I'm not excepted. That would be the suck. | ||
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kingdone private msg quote post Address this user | |
| i know more then one person who witnesses their own books to send to cbcs, one even post openly about it and sells the books with that option as part of an "elite group",so its gotta be kinda legit to do. | ||
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VaComicsGuy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @kingdone are you saying an artist signs and sends them to CBCS or a collector? | ||
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| This thread should be locked. just saying | ||
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VaComicsGuy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Why? I can't speak for anyone else but I'm not trying to start any trouble, just clarify what Kingdone was saying. If an artist is sending in his own work saying he signed it, i'm ok with that but if a collector is sending in books, saying he witnessed his books getting signed, i'm not so ok. |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Oh nah I wasn't referring to you @VAComicsGuy I hope it didn't seem that way. I'm just saying the original topics have been addressed and I forsee this turning slideways. | ||
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| To the OP that is a gorgeous cover though, how unique and weird. It kinda fits in the same category as that weird zombie ninja turtle walking dead sketch cover though. I'm not a fan of random sketch covers. I say that ironically as I have a shredder sketch by a no-name artist cover for a IDW TMNT comic book. | ||
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VaComicsGuy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke No issues with you at all. I just try to make sure I'm not seen as trying to cause any drama or problems. Rumor has it that there are people who frequent forums and they like to argue, be difficult and cause problems. |
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SilverAgeFan private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Oh yes! Definitely there are those that attempt to create mayhem and dissension. They disappear rather quickly when confronted with facts and truths. | ||
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