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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
@BigRedOne1944 I don't think Return of the Jedi was in the normal Star Wars series...it was a 4 part mini issues 1 to 4.
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2001 A Space Odyssey must be the same scenario as what's being discussed here. What does a #1 CGC label and CBCS label say? It may provide a clue to the reasons why.
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Overstreet lists Star Wars 1-6 as the movie adaptation, which is correct. The comics would not exist if they did not make the film. The film was not an adaptation of the comics, like Walking Dead is. Trivia would agree that they would be first comic book appearances, but is it really the primary job of a grading company to answer trivia questions on the label? In todays first appearance driven market, some may say so.


Im not sure I agree that the comics would not exist if the film had not been made.

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The Star Wars #1 comic actually came out before the release of the movie.



Even more so after finding out the comic was release before the movie.


As to your other point..... HELL to the YEA it is the job of ANY legitimate Grading and Authenticating company to include all information and historical data that pertains to the book.
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Marvel Comics Super Special had the majority of film adaptations, you have Blade Runner, Battle Star Galactica, Close Encounter of Third Kind, Raiders of Lost Ark and others. Movie adaptations are essentially reprinted material, not original comic book stories. One of the differences with Batman Adventure #12 is it is first comic book appearance with original material coinciding at the same time.
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@BigRedOne1944 I don't think Return of the Jedi was in the normal Star Wars series...it was a 4 part mini issues 1 to 4.



Kat

Indeed I did find the 4 issues listed on MCS

Odd they didn't continue it through the main title like the other two movies.

I suppose they figure they could get more exposure by having a separate series out there.

I would have been much cooler to have it run through the main title like the others did.

Thanks for the help!

John
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@BigRedOne1944 I don't think Return of the Jedi was in the normal Star Wars series...it was a 4 part mini issues 1 to 4.


Marvel Comics Super Special #27 was the official comic adaptation of Return of Jedi with a release date of September 1983, the four issue comics had a release date beginning October 1983.
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Marvel Comics Super Special had the majority of film adaptations, you have Blade Runner, Battle Star Galactica, Close Encounter of Third Kind, Raiders of Lost Ark and others. Movie adaptations are essentially reprinted material, not original comic book stories. One of the differences with Batman Adventure #12 is it is first comic book appearance with original material coinciding at the same time.


I don't know...I can see the point that the comic was not the original material, but...Star Wars and Galactica comics for instance the adaptations were just a jumping off point for a whole series with new material, characters etc. In those cases I would think 1st comic appearance would be a deserving notation above and beyond the movie adaptation notation yes?
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Marvel Comics Super Special had the majority of film adaptations, you have Blade Runner, Battle Star Galactica, Close Encounter of Third Kind, Raiders of Lost Ark and others. Movie adaptations are essentially reprinted material, not original comic book stories. One of the differences with Batman Adventure #12 is it is first comic book appearance with original material coinciding at the same time.


I guess I would have to disagree and side with Steve Ricketts and CBCS on this one. First comic appearance is First Comic appearance regardless weather or not it's and original comic story.
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Overstreet lists Star Wars 1-6 as the movie adaptation, which is correct. The comics would not exist if they did not make the film. The film was not an adaptation of the comics, like Walking Dead is. Trivia would agree that they would be first comic book appearances, but is it really the primary job of a grading company to answer trivia questions on the label? In todays first appearance driven market, some may say so.


Im not sure I agree that the comics would not exist if the film had not been made.
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I'm going to say the Marvel Comics Super Special issues don't count??? because the books are considered a magazine according to Overstreet and are therefore not comics???
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Originally Posted by Homer
Overstreet lists Star Wars 1-6 as the movie adaptation, which is correct. The comics would not exist if they did not make the film. The film was not an adaptation of the comics, like Walking Dead is. Trivia would agree that they would be first comic book appearances, but is it really the primary job of a grading company to answer trivia questions on the label? In todays first appearance driven market, some may say so.


Im not sure I agree that the comics would not exist if the film had not been made.


Take a look at the cover of Star Wars #1, says "The Greatest Space-Fantasy Film of all"



I think it is important that it be noted for a few reasons

#1 Because it is factually the 1st Comic Book Appearance (unless you can give me another answer)

#2 Because when a Non-Versed Star Wars person like me, who is a comic book collector decides he might like to pick up the first comic book appearances of these Star wars characters, he can avoid this unnecessary confusion. So when I ask which comic book issue(s)I need to obtain to fulfill this quest. There is no other answer other than Star Wars #1 & #2. weather or not it was a movie is irrelevant. Obviously if someone can steer me toward the correct Books I would choose to seek those out instead. Until then..... All roads lead to this two issues, and if they were noted accordingly I could have avoided all this unnecessary detective work.
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Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944
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Originally Posted by Homer
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Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944
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Originally Posted by Homer
Overstreet lists Star Wars 1-6 as the movie adaptation, which is correct. The comics would not exist if they did not make the film. The film was not an adaptation of the comics, like Walking Dead is. Trivia would agree that they would be first comic book appearances, but is it really the primary job of a grading company to answer trivia questions on the label? In todays first appearance driven market, some may say so.


Im not sure I agree that the comics would not exist if the film had not been made.


Take a look at the cover of Star Wars #1, says "The Greatest Space-Fantasy Film of all"



I think it is important that it be noted for a few reasons

#1 Because it is factually the 1st Comic Book Appearance (unless you can give me another answer)

#2 Because when a Non-Versed Star Wars person like me, who is a comic book collector decides he might like to pick up the first comic book appearances of these Star wars characters, he can avoid this unnecessary confusion. So when I ask which comic book issue(s)I need to obtain to fulfill this quest. There is no other answer other than Star Wars #1 & #2. weather or not it was a movie is irrelevant. Obviously if someone can steer me toward the correct Books I would choose to seek those out instead. Until then..... All roads lead to this two issues, and if they were noted accordingly I could have avoided all this unnecessary detective work.


Correct first comic book appearance would be Star Wars #1.
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Yep - CBCS is correct with regard to Star Wars.

Never noticed or looked before but even as far in as issue #42 CBCS notes it as 1st Boba Fete...CGC....nothing..just "part 4 of Empire Strikes Back"


We do not designate this as the first appearance of Boba Fett. The story was first printed in the ESB Super Special. Here is our label for #42. Our comments are carefully worded to be both relevant and accurate.


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Yep - CBCS is correct with regard to Star Wars.

Never noticed or looked before but even as far in as issue #42 CBCS notes it as 1st Boba Fete...CGC....nothing..just "part 4 of Empire Strikes Back"


We do not designate this as the first appearance of Boba Fett. The story was first printed in the RotJ Super Special. Here is our label for #42. Our comments are carefully worded to be both relevant and accurate.


I'm confused...Star Wars #42 has Bobba Fett on the cover and inside on pages 1 (as a inner cover) and 14 (as part of the story).
The ROTJ Super Special came out a few years after #42...
The ROTJ 4 Part Mini Series was a reprint off the ROTJ: Super Special

So doesn't that makes #42 the first appearance (or is it considered a cameo?)
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The contents of #42 are a reprint, thus cannot be considered a first appearance. His first appearance is in the ESB Super Special. Sorry I noted RotJ, which was what happens to me before I drink coffee. I'll go back and change it.

Boba Fett's first appearance is in the ESB Super Special. SW #42 is his first cover appearance, since that part was not reprinted.
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The contents of #42 are a reprint, thus cannot be considered a first appearance. His first appearance is in the ESB Super Special. Sorry I noted RotJ, which was what happens to me before I drink coffee. I'll go back and change it.

Boba Fett's first appearance is in the ESB Super Special. SW #42 is his first cover appearance, since that part was not reprinted.


Ahhhh...ok that makes sense (coffee always helps!). I didn't realize that the main run was reprinting the Super Specials. Guess I'm going to have to keep my eyes open for the Super Specials now. Thanks Steve.
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Yep - CBCS is correct with regard to Star Wars.

Never noticed or looked before but even as far in as issue #42 CBCS notes it as 1st Boba Fete...CGC....nothing..just "part 4 of Empire Strikes Back"


We do not designate this as the first appearance of Boba Fett. The story was first printed in the ESB Super Special. Here is our label for #42. Our comments are carefully worded to be both relevant and accurate.




Must have been blurry eyed last night!!
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And just to throw a foreign monkey wrench into the mix, Marvel Comics UK came out with a Boba Fett cover in August, 1980, which predates SW #42. The comic was The Empire Strikes Back Weekly #129. I'm not sure if it is regular comic book size or magazine size, but if you're a Bob Fett fan, you might want to add it. And here is an interesting article on Boba Fett's first comic appearance.


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Star Wars #1 (1977) - 1st comic book appearance of Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Princess Leia, R2D2, C3PO, Stormtroopers.

(cover only for Obi Wan Kenobi and Han Solo)



Star Wars #2 (1977) - 1st comic book appearance of Obi Wan Kenobi, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Millenium Falcon, Death Star.

(old design 1st comic book appearance of Jabba the Hutt)
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Star Wars #3 - First appearance Death Star.


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Star Wars #3 - First appearance Death Star.





The Death Star was in issue #1 (and on the cover too).
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Interestingly, the Overstreet Price Guide doesn’t designate any first appearances for SW #1 or #2.
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Here is a scan of my CBCS #2:




It does state it is the first appearance of Han, Chewie, Jabba, and the Millenium Falcon.



No Obi-Wan Kenobi? Weird.
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