What is the purpose of having artist that did not work on a comic sign it?6877
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Ladic private msg quote post Address this user | |
I understand having Stan Lee signing a random SM issue since he created the character, but for example I see a ASM #36 (Vol 2 - WTC issue) signed by Todd McFarlane? and others like that, what is the point? | ||
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
People are stupid. | ||
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CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Some people like to lower the value of the book. | ||
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MedicAR private msg quote post Address this user | |
In general, there is no point. The mystery to me is having an artist sign an homage to their cover. I just saw one that had a John Romita signature on a John Cassaday cover because Cassaday swiped Romita. That's as close as Romita came to working on that book. It's just dumb to me. | ||
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Briten private msg quote post Address this user | |
Agreed. I have seen Stan Lee's signature on everything and anything Marvel and I shake my head. | ||
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MedicAR private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Briten I love seeing him on Batman books. It was a cute throw away joke on Big Bang Theory and now everyone is doing it. Dumb, dumb, dumb... |
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Ny85 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by MedicAR That one I can actually understand I personally would like to have the original artist and the one who swiped it, like Marat Mychaels is doing with his covers |
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drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
Todd McFarlane had a big run on Spider-Man so it is not unreasonable that someone might want him on a Spidey book he didn't do. More often than not when you see a signature on a book from an artist that didn't work on the book it is the result of an error. I have two ASM # 340s signed by Todd McFarlane, Peter David, Bob Wiacek, and Lou Ferrigno. Both books are also signed by Louise Simonson who happened to be at the same show where Bob signed the books. Somehow they ended up in her pile and the rest is history. |
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MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Ladic I see no point at all. I think the only thing dumber than TM signing an ASM 36 is asking him to. |
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Jellery private msg quote post Address this user | |
I got an Amazing Spider-Man #4 (1st Silk) signed by Stacey Lee from a buddy and wondered what that would do to the value of the book since she didn't work on it... | ||
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iggykoopa30 private msg quote post Address this user | |
The one I don't get is seeing Stan Lee's sig on a Deadpool book... or even a Rocket Raccoon book... He had no kind of input on those characters at all. | ||
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
I could see getting a homage cover signed. I thought about having Steranko sign a homage cover or two but in the end they were dollar bin books and at $40 per signature plus grading etc. I just got the original cover signed....should have them back by November?? and since I had a few duplicates (Nick Fury 6 & 7) I'll probably try and sell the lower graded ones... |
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chameleoncolors private msg quote post Address this user | |
I think this is the reason why. It means something to that person. If you want Campbell to sign your ASM 300 because ASM 300 is your favorite book and he's your favorite artist so they get him to sign it. Are they ruining the book for everyone else that would ever own that book. Yes. But if it means the world to someone I don't personally agree but i understand why. Now something like Having Todd McFarland sign a venom book that he has nothing to do with or a spawn books he did not work on having him sign that makes a sort of sense since he created these charchters that's the reason why stan signs books he had nothing to do with. (IMO() | ||
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IronMan private msg quote post Address this user | |
I typically want to have creators that actually worked on the book sign a book. Or celebrities closely associated to the character. That said, autograph collecting is a hobby onto itself. It isn't any "dumber" to have Todd McFarlane or Stan Lee sign a book they didn't have a part in then it is to have them sign a blank piece of paper or your notebook that you have autographs in. When celebrities and creators reach a certain legendary status having their autographs on stuff that "doesn't fit or make sense" is in fact funny and interesting. Just because the joke gets told a lot doesn't mean the joke isn't funny. It's still a funny joke. Just an old, funny joke. Having Stan Lee Batman books, Donald Duck books or posters of Xena, Warrior Princess is in fact something kinda cool that I'd gladly own. So if any of you have such and want to dump it reach out. |
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
I like the fact that people are ruining so many books with signatures and sketches. That makes all my unsigned books more and more rare. ![]() |
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chameleoncolors private msg quote post Address this user | |
@KingNampa here's the thing wrong with that. I don't think there will ever be a ratio of more signed books than unsigned books out there. There is no key issue that would be worth grading with or with out a signature. There is only about 450,000 sigend books in the cgc census and they have graded over 3 million, I don't know about cbcs. Even someone like stan who has signed probably more than Anyone. I don't believe there is any more than maybe 100,000 graded comics which he has signed maybe less maybe more but not. Now raw may be a bigger number bye not upward and surlynot enough to sign more copies of one book then there were printed. There will always be unsigned books there will not always be sigend books that's my philosophy | ||
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IronMan private msg quote post Address this user | |
@KingNampa Made me laugh. But.... @Aliens probably has the more accurate assessment of signed Vs unsigned. |
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KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Aliens @IronMan well gents think about older stuff. Like Stan lee signing Silver Surfer #4, which already had a low print run. That would be a case where you will see unsigned books being harder and harder to find as this signing trend continues. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Ladic Money. Cabbage. Clams. Milk. Dosh. Loot. Dough. Cheddar. Pesos. Shillings. Frogskins. Bacon. Benjamins. Greenbacks. Duckets. Loot. Bones. Coin. Franklins. Sawbucks. Bread. Dinero. Folding paper. Honk. Lolly. Moola. Filthy Lucre. Scratch. |
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MedicAR private msg quote post Address this user | |
I always retell this story when the subject of signed vs unsigned and rarity comes up. I can't find the original story now but it was another writer making the comment to Ray Bradbury that Mr. Bradbury had signed so many books that only his unsigned copies would ever have any value. I feel like it was Harlan Ellison but I may have him stuck in my head due to his recent passing. I seriously doubt that the number of signed copies of a particular issue will ever exceed the number of unsigned copies of the same issue. Look at Walking Dead #1, arguably one of the most popular books of the modern age and there are 2404 blue labels in the CGC database but only 439 signed copies. Hulk #181 is another book that has tons of graded copies, 8223 blues and 1267 signed. The unsigned will always outweigh the signed. |
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chameleoncolors private msg quote post Address this user | |
@MedicAR could not have said it better | ||
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chameleoncolors private msg quote post Address this user | |
Personally I don't mind a signature if it looks good on the book. I am a fan of signatures on comics but I don't like it that a random person would sign it. I personally like getting my signatures on the first page. Like this weekend I am getting my ASM 361 signed by bagley on the first page in ball point pen. But in stans case What can you do | ||
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chameleoncolors private msg quote post Address this user | |
This is what ruining a book looks like. An AF 15... even better ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that. However, I do have an Astonishing X-Men #22 Wolverine variant cover signed by Hugh Jackman. | ||
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Paulbg2000 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Isn't this the same thing as getting actors to sign comic books? I mean, if they were on the cover as a likeness or photo then I get it...but isn't getting someone like Lou Ferrigno to sign a Hulk comic book the same as getting Todd McFarlane to sign a Spider-Man book he had nothing to do with? | ||
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chameleoncolors private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Paulbg2000 yes. But on an AF 15!!!!! | ||
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chameleoncolors private msg quote post Address this user | |
The only people who should even touch or should have touched their names on an AF 15 were jack kirby (RIP) for the cover Steve ditko (RIP) and stan lee that's it. | ||
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JustThatGuy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Tom holland’s on AF15? I know it’s their book and they have money, but whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? I mean why? And I’ve witnessed first hand someone got Sam del la Rosa to sign ASM 300. I think people should have a certain respect on certain property they did not work on and not sign it. But hey, to each his own. |
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Paulbg2000 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Aliens Agreed...My post was a bit vague...I personally don't see why they would get actors or other artists to sign the books. Stan Lee, I get... That being said, Tom Holland on an AF 15 is probably the only one in existence (hopefully...) |
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Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
...... and yet ..... people buy them. Go figure | ||
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