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Collector VaComicsGuy private msg quote post Address this user
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The post master I spoke with said he interprets, ". . .Comic books do not meet this standard." as meaning they do not meet the standard of having advertisements. The friend I asked (see earlier post) said his P.O. told him, they consider older comics to be ok because the ads are no longer valid so they consider them to be part of the media.

I have no idea what the offical answer is which is what prompted the original post. Maybe I'll contact the main office to ask.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
You may be correct, but I have don't recall ever seeing ANY printed media advertising. Including coloring books. They usually advertise their other available books, or they advertise the company that makes them.
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Collector PeteN private msg quote post Address this user
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@PeteN
The post master I spoke with said he interprets, ". . .Comic books do not meet this standard." as meaning they do not meet the standard of having advertisements. The friend I asked (see earlier post) said his P.O. told him, they consider older comics to be ok because the ads are no longer valid so they consider them to be part of the media.

I have no idea what the offical answer is which is what prompted the original post. Maybe I'll contact the main office to ask.


yep that's what I told that one postal workers, but she referred me to that on screen which is from their usps site that states and names comic books don't meet the standard, so I couldn't really say anything to her...Your postmaster's interpretation might be correct. Although it seems odd in that comic books have advertisements, at least all the ones I have read. Although, I never had a problem before with any other postal worker. I rarely ship comics, so if it was me and I was selling comics, I would still take the chance on shipping media mail. Maybe 1 out of 100 comes back? seems worth it to me to take that risk for the low cost.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
"Media Mail packages may not contain advertising. Comic books do not meet this standard."

We have had this discussion before. Zeroing in on this particular phrase.

Does it mean that comic books meet the requirement of media? Or does it mean they do not.

Read it like this: "Media Mail packages may not contain advertising. Comic books don't meet this standard", and see if it means to you: "Comic books are exempted from not being allowed to contain advertising".

Would it not have been much simpler and clearer to say : "Comic books are not allowed to be mailed via Media Mail".
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Personally I think you are a comic book terrorist if you ship books via media mail. Don't be cheap.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
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Personally I think you are a comic book terrorist if you ship books via media mail. Don't be cheap.


Wouldn't it actually mean that the buyer is the comic book terrorist, as they usually are the ones picking the method and paying for shipping?

Matters not to me if the other guy is paying. But seems silly to mail a seven dollar item with a postage cost of $17.00.
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Interesting. Hadn't even thought about media mail until this morning. Seems like they need to standarize what is and isn't allowed. I don't sell a lot of books, but when I do. they are in the $50 and up range so priority is appropiate. Most of the books he is selling are in the $1-$5 dollar range. What would be the best mailing option for that type of book? I don't see many people wanting to spend $7 or more shipping for a $2 book. So far, he has been sending using Gemini mailers.

Any suggestions?


I use gemini mailers as well. 3 books at a time is usually under weight to qualify for first class, which is as good as priority
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Personally I think you are a comic book terrorist if you ship books via media mail. Don't be cheap.


I do wear a blue and white checkered dish towel on my head around the house for fun, but I learned not to wear it through a security gate. (True Boeing story, 1992)
I sold a full set of Rom years ago on EBay, not worth selling if I could not use media mail. I believe each Postmaster has a fair amount of power in the Federal Post Office system, not like private yahoos.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
Feels like Dejavu
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user

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Feels like Dejavu
All over again.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
"Media Mail packages may not contain advertising."

anyone know why? Maybe we should be asking that question...get to the root of the issue. I get its usps's policy, but what is their issue with advertising and it being so frowned upon for media?
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The only difference that I know of in shipping is how fast it gets to the destination, which is more to do with routes and movement.


Could you expand on this please? Are you saying packages shipped MM take a different route than those shipped other ways?


If I order a book from NYC (I'm about 100 miles directly east, in CT) first class/media will go west to NJ to a distribution center, then north east to Hartford (30 miles north of me), then north to Springfield,MA (100 miles north) to a distribution center, then to my local post office and out for delivery. Takes about 4-5 days.

If I order priority it goes directly to Springfield, then to my PO and I get it in 2 days.
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Personally I think you are a comic book terrorist if you ship books via media mail. Don't be cheap.


The funny thing is that regardless if it's media or first class, it's the same journey. I've had more damaged comics arrive in priority mail packages (several) than in Gemini or similar mailers (none) so it's the packaging, not the service purchased is what I've learned.

So I'm not sure what you mean by people whom send media mail are terrorists. Especially if they take the care to protect the contents.

Maybe that person is committing mail fraud on some level....but even that I doubt because all the post office does (IF they catch you and IF they interpret the rule to mean comic books are exempt from media mail services) is charge you or recipient the difference in cost. They're not calling the authorities to haul you in.
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Collector VaComicsGuy private msg quote post Address this user
When I buy, I don't care how the seller ships the books as long as they arrive undamaged and in a reasonable amount of time.
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I’m curious to learn kaptainmyke’s double box shipping method that was mentioned earlier!
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I’m curious to learn kaptainmyke’s double box shipping method that was mentioned earlier!


It might not be legal unless of course he just provides USPS stationary to the buyer
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
Hmmm...USPS gives us free priority mail boxes. Many of us put smaller priority mail boxes inside larger priority mail boxes. Thus causing USPS to provide two boxes for free, for one package of comic books sent.

And some people turn priority mail boxes inside out, to use as a free box NOT sent by priority mail, but by some other method via USPS and other services.

Anyone else think these things are just wrong?

Funny how someone can not have a problem with doing this. But have a problem with only paying what a garage sale asks for an expensive comic book.

Humans crack me up.
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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I’m curious to learn kaptainmyke’s double box shipping method that was mentioned earlier!



At my own website:

HOW TO PROPERLY SUBMIT COMIC BOOKS THROUGH THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE MAIL
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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It might not be legal


Your face isn't legal.
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Collector Cowabunga_Kyle private msg quote post Address this user
@kaptainmyke OMG this is amazing
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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The funny thing is that regardless if it's media or first class, it's the same journey.


If I pay for a book over $50 and expect priority mail shipping, as disclosed as the only option on the item on ebay being bought, I expect it to be at my door in 3 days. Not 2 weeks later via media mail $2.50. That's bull. Also, media mail damages your boxes/packages more often due to the way they are transported vs priority mail boxes. How is it any different than paying 2 day modern or fast track and it's now 3 months because of a move? Oh sorry was that too soon?
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
Mike’s box 🤣


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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user

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I don't mind receiving low value books via media mail. I would only expect 1st class or Priority for more expensive stuff $50+.
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Mike - sorry - came across this one and too good not to use
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The funny thing is that regardless if it's media or first class, it's the same journey.


If I pay for a book over $50 and expect priority mail shipping, as disclosed as the only option on the item on ebay being bought, I expect it to be at my door in 3 days. Not 2 weeks later via media mail $2.50. That's bull. Also, media mail damages your boxes/packages more often due to the way they are transported vs priority mail boxes. How is it any different than paying 2 day modern or fast track and it's now 3 months because of a move? Oh sorry was that too soon?


Back to your original statement that Anyone who ships comics via media mail is terrorizing others.

I deal with books generally in the $20 or less range, I put more care into packaging something with media mail (extra reinforcements) as I don't get whacked for every ounce like first class and can offer more competitive price points than priority. I explain my packaging in the description and offer upgrades if desired. Not to mention if the usps damages it I take full responsibility and except returns or refunds. So if someone buys a comic from me and complains it was sent media mail that's on them. Never had a problem in hundreds of sales.

And yes if it's a higher priced book (e.g. $30 or up) I either add insurance or go priority or both.

So I want to know if you're calling me a man who terrorized and why? I have nothing against you personally, however Because those are strong words and Potentially offensive I request clarification. The above is not clear with respect to you original all encompassing statement.

Also, here is a question for all to ponder....is a graphic novel a comic book? Or should a a comic book with no advertising fall under the medi mail exemptions? No one, including USPS has ever explained to me why Comics get a bad wrap. Still waiting as maybe the answer would change my outlook on the matter.
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
I know why. My brother used to send an insane number of stuffed long boxes media mail, eventually his Post Office got tired of back injuries and told him he could not do it anymore.
Times 1,000 comic book guys just like him.
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Collector VaComicsGuy private msg quote post Address this user
Well, this will probably piss some people off but I'm just passing along the info.:

I called the USPS info line (1-800-ASK-USPS) this morning and asked, "Can comic books be sent via media mail" I was told, "No. Comic books cannot be sent by media mail." I asked "If a media mail package is inspected, where is that done?" I was told, "packages can be examined anywhere along the route by any authorized USPS agent." I asked if movies can be sent via media mail and was told, ". . . not if they contain any advertising and advertising includes previews for other movies."

I was talking to a colleague who has a husband that collects and sells. She said he uses media mail all the time. Things were slow and an hour or so had passed so we decided to call again and see if we got the same answers. ..... We didn't.

She was told, "comics are ok to send via media mail as they don't meet the advertising standard." Packages are generally inspected only at the originating P.O. (but they can be inspected at other locations). Movies are ok to send. She asked about the previews on movies and the rep said they aren't considered ads because they aren't selling anything, just informing the viewer of other movies that are available.



I'm not usually a "WTF?" person, but "Seriously, WTF??"
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