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@OGJackster I couldn't agree more. 9-1-1 was tolerable in its Wokeness. Sheriff comes to TV with a bait and switch and trys to straddle both sides of the viewing audience, and now, 9-1-1 is just plain silly overboard on the woke meter.

Much of Hollywood continues its quest to push agendas instead of what most of the viewing audience desires...that being escapism. Unless one is viewing News or things like documentaries, we watch tv and movies for enjoyment/escapism. Not political indoctrination.

Bring on Mandalorian season 2 already.
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I wish these threads could avoid agendas and political indoctrination. We should go back to the old threads, where you guys.... still just complained about CW at any opportunity. Or really any show with too many non-white people, or gays, or lesbians (unless the lesbians were HAWT, then it was sort of ok), or white people who talked too much about non-white people, or gays, or lesbians.

Are we allowed to watch the Mandalorian? They would never have let the star of a series come from Chile in the good old days. It's ok because he wears a helmet, right?
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Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere?
The latest CBS All Access spin-off fails to launch.
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Sounds like another disappointment
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Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere?
The latest CBS All Access spin-off fails to launch.
clickable text

Sounds like another disappointment


Guess I'm lucky this isn't available on any of the streaming services i have access to

On a side note...i have been really enjoying DS9. When it came out i would watch an episode here or there if i was home or even if i had a tv(some university days when i did not). Now as a mid 40s father i am much more engaged in the family based story lines of DS9.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I couldn't make it all the way through the first episode I watched of Nancy Drew the other night. I'm not their demographic any way.
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@xkonk - maybe I am misinterpreting your comment, but since you used "agendas" and "political indoctrination" I get the sense it was somewhat directed at me. Maybe not, as I was not around this forum to complain about CW and probably whould not have as I enjoyed as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Star Trek: Voyager, original Charmed, Smallville, Vampire Diaries, the Originals, and Arrow.

Personally, I could care less about ethnicities, genders, orientations, etc. I just don't appreciate nor desire to be slammed over the head with it. Didn't like it in the 80's with the Moral Majority, then Tipper Gore's War on Rock, and now Hollywoods antics on the other end of the spectrum.

Take Star Trek for instance I have been a solid fan since late 60's. Hard to think of any entertainment franchise that has been more inclusive. Never an issue for me.

Anyway, my apologies to any I have offended.
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Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere?
The latest CBS All Access spin-off fails to launch.
clickable text

Sounds like another disappointment


I did not click the link, but guessing the opinion may be professional critics based. Since I don't trust critics who gushed over The Last Jedi and panned The Rise of Skywalker, I will watch and see if I like it. Here's hoping.
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I couldn't make it all the way through the first episode I watched of Nancy Drew the other night. I'm not their demographic any way.


Nancy Drew isn't great but grew on me as I kept watching.
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Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere?
The latest CBS All Access spin-off fails to launch.
clickable text

Sounds like another disappointment


I did not click the link, but guessing the opinion may be professional critics based. Since I don't trust critics who gushed over The Last Jedi and panned The Rise of Skywalker, I will watch and see if I like it. Here's hoping.

I'd be interested in hearing what you think so please let us know your critique.
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Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere?
The latest CBS All Access spin-off fails to launch.
clickable text

Sounds like another disappointment


I did not click the link, but guessing the opinion may be professional critics based. Since I don't trust critics who gushed over The Last Jedi and panned The Rise of Skywalker, I will watch and see if I like it. Here's hoping.

I'd be interested in hearing what you think so please let us know your critique.


I will queue my inner Q.

Wait, I just had a brilliant idea. Two of my all time favorite tv characters do a crossover series...Lucifer & Q...Now that would be entertaining.
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I couldn't make it all the way through the first episode I watched of Nancy Drew the other night. I'm not their demographic any way.

I hope they don't do a Hardy Boys.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
@Scifinator not directed solely at you. If you read around the forums enough (probably even just this thread) you'll find out who doesn't like to have "agendas" even presented to them, let alone hit over the head.
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Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere?
The latest CBS All Access spin-off fails to launch.
clickable text

Sounds like another disappointment


I don't have CBS streaming to weigh in, but the review I read on a different site was positive. IMDB rating looks pretty solid.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I always thought, and still think, Murder, She Wrote was/is a great show and Jessica Fletcher never slept with any body.
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The Magicians is one of the best shows on TV. It checks every box while at the same time being character and story driven.
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There are times when it's scary how accurate and forward-thinking some writers have been in the past. It also seems that 1984 is quickly approaching.


Nineteen Eighty-four
NOVEL BY ORWELL

Nineteen Eighty-four, also published as 1984, novel by English author George Orwell published in 1949 as a warning against totalitarianism. The chilling dystopia made a deep impression on readers, and his ideas entered mainstream culture in a way achieved by very few books. The book’s title and many of its concepts, such as Big Brother and the Thought Police, are instantly recognized and understood, often as bywords for modern social and political abuses.

Summary:

The book is set in 1984 in Oceania, one of three perpetually warring totalitarian states (the other two are Eurasia and Eastasia). Oceania is governed by the all-controlling Party, which has brainwashed the population into unthinking obedience to its leader, Big Brother. The Party has created a propagandistic language known as Newspeak, which is designed to limit free thought and promote the Party’s doctrines. Its words include doublethink (belief in contradictory ideas simultaneously), which is reflected in the Party’s slogans: “War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.” The Party maintains control through the Thought Police and continual surveillance.

The book’s hero, Winston Smith, is a minor party functionary living in a London that is still shattered by a nuclear war that took place not long after World War II. He belongs to the Outer Party, and his job is to rewrite history in the Ministry of Truth, bringing it in line with current political thinking. However, Winston’s longing for truth and decency leads him to secretly rebel against the government. He embarks on a forbidden affair with Julia, a like-minded woman, and they rent a room in a neighbourhood populated by Proles (short for proletariats). Winston also becomes increasingly interested in the Brotherhood, a group of dissenters. Unbeknownst to Winston and Julia, however, they are being watched closely (ubiquitous posters throughout the city warn residents that “Big Brother is watching you.”).

When Winston is approached by O’Brien—an official of the Inner Party who appears to be a secret member of the Brotherhood—the trap is set. O’Brien is actually a spy for the Party, on the lookout for “thought-criminals,” and Winston and Julia are eventually caught and sent to the Ministry of Love for a violent reeducation. The ensuing imprisonment, torture, and reeducation of Winston are intended not merely to break him physically or make him submit but to root out his independence and destroy his dignity and humanity. In Room 101, where prisoners are forced into submission by exposure to their worst nightmares, Winston panics as a cage of rats is attached to his head. He yells out for his tormentors to “Do it to Julia!” and states that he does not care what happens to her. With this betrayal, Winston is released. He later encounters Julia, and neither is interested in the other. Instead Winston loves Big Brother.



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The Magicians is one of the best shows on TV. It checks every box while at the same time being character and story driven.


I really liked The Magicians. I had forgotten about it at some point due to the long period between seasons. I really should try to catch up sometime.
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@Scifinator not directed solely at you. If you read around the forums enough (probably even just this thread) you'll find out who doesn't like to have "agendas" even presented to them, let alone hit over the head.
Precisely this...merely displaying anything that differs from some peoples version of the "default" way they feel things should be is often labeled an agenda. Meantime ask yourself which is a true agenda and which is simply offering a sampling of how things are or have become in the actual world out there we live in...….
Hollywood did it the "default" way for the last 60-80 years ...when they dare to differ from that AGENDA they are then accused of having one themselves
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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The Magicians is one of the best shows on TV. It checks every box while at the same time being character and story driven.


I really liked The Magicians. I had forgotten about it at some point due to the long period between seasons. I really should try to catch up sometime.

Season 5 just started and is two episodes in at this point.
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I loved the first episode of Picard.
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I loved the first episode of Picard.


That's good to hear. I would hate not liking it.
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Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere?
The latest CBS All Access spin-off fails to launch.
clickable text

Sounds like another disappointment


Guess I'm lucky this isn't available on any of the streaming services i have access to

On a side note...i have been really enjoying DS9. When it came out i would watch an episode here or there if i was home or even if i had a tv(some university days when i did not). Now as a mid 40s father i am much more engaged in the family based story lines of DS9.


DS9 is like a fine wine.

I blew through the first 2 seasons a few months back. Loved every minute of it. I need to get back to it.
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I wish these threads could avoid agendas and political indoctrination. We should go back to the old threads, where you guys.... still just complained about CW at any opportunity. Or really any show with too many non-white people, or gays, or lesbians (unless the lesbians were HAWT, then it was sort of ok), or white people who talked too much about non-white people, or gays, or lesbians.

Are we allowed to watch the Mandalorian? They would never have let the star of a series come from Chile in the good old days. It's ok because he wears a helmet, right?


Although I think you are overstating what the complaints are about some of the shows being discussed, I do apologize if any feelings were hurt.
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@Scifinator not directed solely at you. If you read around the forums enough (probably even just this thread) you'll find out who doesn't like to have "agendas" even presented to them, let alone hit over the head.
Precisely this...merely displaying anything that differs from some peoples version of the "default" way they feel things should be is often labeled an agenda. Meantime ask yourself which is a true agenda and which is simply offering a sampling of how things are or have become in the actual world out there we live in...….
Hollywood did it the "default" way for the last 60-80 years ...when they dare to differ from that AGENDA they are then accused of having one themselves


Everybody has an agenda, everybody is pushing their own point of view. It's just a matter of how they are presented. Somebody mentioned Star Trek up in the thread, and it was probably one of the most agenda driven shows I've ever watched (in re-runs, not quite that old). There was commentary on most of the social issues of the day. However, it was done organically with the focus on the story and characters.

My issue is when the agendas detract from the overall story and characters.
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@Scifinator not directed solely at you. If you read around the forums enough (probably even just this thread) you'll find out who doesn't like to have "agendas" even presented to them, let alone hit over the head.
Precisely this...merely displaying anything that differs from some peoples version of the "default" way they feel things should be is often labeled an agenda. Meantime ask yourself which is a true agenda and which is simply offering a sampling of how things are or have become in the actual world out there we live in...….
Hollywood did it the "default" way for the last 60-80 years ...when they dare to differ from that AGENDA they are then accused of having one themselves


Everybody has an agenda, everybody is pushing their own point of view. It's just a matter of how they are presented. Somebody mentioned Star Trek up in the thread, and it was probably one of the most agenda driven shows I've ever watched (in re-runs, not quite that old). There was commentary on most of the social issues of the day. However, it was done organically with the focus on the story and characters.

My issue is when the agendas detract from the overall story and characters.


Kinda my point, but more you elaborated better.
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@OGJackster my fav character is Margot. I love it even more when she is with her bestie, Elliot.



Has anyone seen October Faction on Netflix? Saw 20 mins of it before I fell sleep due to fatigue.
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@OGJackster my fav character is Margot. I love it even more when she is with her bestie, Elliot.

She has some of the best dialogue on the show.
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I'm looking forward to this!

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@Scifinator not directed solely at you. If you read around the forums enough (probably even just this thread) you'll find out who doesn't like to have "agendas" even presented to them, let alone hit over the head.
Precisely this...merely displaying anything that differs from some peoples version of the "default" way they feel things should be is often labeled an agenda. Meantime ask yourself which is a true agenda and which is simply offering a sampling of how things are or have become in the actual world out there we live in...….
Hollywood did it the "default" way for the last 60-80 years ...when they dare to differ from that AGENDA they are then accused of having one themselves


Everybody has an agenda, everybody is pushing their own point of view. It's just a matter of how they are presented. Somebody mentioned Star Trek up in the thread, and it was probably one of the most agenda driven shows I've ever watched (in re-runs, not quite that old). There was commentary on most of the social issues of the day. However, it was done organically with the focus on the story and characters.

My issue is when the agendas detract from the overall story and characters.
I agree completely especially with the Star trek observations. My only other comment is that for so long the "agenda" was done by default, with many movies even having all male casts etc. Now that other viewpoints are getting their day in the sunlight its considered agenda, regardless how its presented or handled. I do agree that if it is done in such a way to detract from the overall story it then becomes too heavy-handed and obvious
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