Grading help/creasing/fold6249
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I just bought this off ebay at a reasonable price. It has one major flaw, a crease on the back. Can you guys help me figure out a grade, im going to submit and press, but im curious what it would grade as is too   |
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| From the pictures you have provided, I would say 9.2 to 9.4 I see rounded edges on the corners; front cover. There is bends (from someone flipping through the comic) on the front cover beside Gideon's arm in the black areas. Uneven staple's because the spine is not aligned. Then there is the big crease (as you stated) on the back cover; breaking color. I'd say even with a pressing and the spine correction, it would be in the 9.4 range. I could be wrong, wont be the first time or the last.  Great comic! Thanks for sharing with us! |
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Enelson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @GanaSoth thanks for the help | ||
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dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Crease like that will bring it doooooown. I need to check something I submitted like that. | ||
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| That's going to be lower than a 9.0. 7.5/8.0 | ||
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| 7.0 | ||
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Enelson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @kaptainmyke will any of that improve with a press? | ||
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Enelson How much did ya pay for it, if you dont mind us knowing. I mean, if its too personal thats cool. | ||
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| Most of that will press out but the color break will drop it to an 8.0 at least. Color breaks are the enemy. | ||
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Damn I was way off on my grading evaluation. I was thinking 9.2 But then again, it is a more modern era comic, graded more harshly than a Silver or Golden. |
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Homer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The heavy crease down to 7.0, pressing won’t help, it will only make it a flat crease. | ||
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Enelson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @GanaSoth i paid 140, with free ship, seller had it listed at 225 or best offer. I knew it was a gamble because of the crease, but the cover looks great...but, boy this threads all over the place for grades. I'll submit and press and report back. My amateur guessing was in the 8 to 8.5 but I've never submitted a comic with a crease like that, so we'll see. Maybe I'll fast pass everything and see if I can make my money back when movies out. Oh well, womp womp |
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Enelson Yeah, I have never submitted a comic with any creases before either. $140 wasn't too bad, I'm sure you can get that back and a little profit. | ||
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dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user | |
This book had a fold over crease like yours. |
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| I wouldn't spend the money to have it pressed. The color breaking crease is going to put a ceiling on the grade. It won't matter if it's flat or not. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Enelson Looks to be a 7.0. You did alright. With a press, likely an 8.0. That said, there isn't much room for profit. And GPA is virtually the same in 90 day average between 7.0 to 8.0....about $225, across the board. Pressin and slabbing will run you about $50, not including invoice and shipping ccosts. 2 day modern is $32, quick stream bump on pressing is $8, pressing is $12, IIRC. Subtract 14% for eBay and PayPal fees when you list it, and you'll make $20 or so, if sold at GPA. So it's a bit of a lower if you go that route. I'd say to just list it at $200-225 and wait, it'll sell eventually. I'd give you $250 in trade for the book, as is.I'll ship first, LMK what you're looking for, if interested. I'm setting up at the VA Comic Con,Seinfeld will be there both days and I am sure I can get $225 for it, off my wall. I have 3 other copies, but mine are all in the 9.4-9.8 range, so they are worth slabbing. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Homer Yes. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dpiercy Well that's somewhat encouraging. @CopperAgeKids I think I might just slab it and keep it, which was my original plan. I sold off all my deadpool and new mutants about 8 years ago like an idiot so I've been slowly been replacing keys. But I will definitely consider offer, trying to think of what I'd want |
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Homer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If your in for the flip just put right back on eBay with pictures of the crease. Should get around $200.00 as is condition. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Enelson By all means, if you want the book for your collection, just keep it. I would not suggest pressing/slabbing it, though.Unless you simply want to have the book in a slab,in your collection.In that case, I would have it pressed. I believe that all books,which do not have brittle pages or heavy tanning, should be pressed to conserve structural integrity. Of course that is cost prohibitive, it's a matter of picking your battles. Far as trading, I'd raise the bounty to $300. When it comes to trading, I don't mind giving the other guy a higher dollar value, if he is taking more books. IOW, I like giving up 10 books that are worth $30 a pop, for 1 book that is worth $200. I picked up a raw 8.0 Batman Adventures 12 in a Facebook trade, in a stack of books, similar fashion a while back. Also got a Spider-Gwen #1 CGC SS 9.8 Hughes 1:100 Mary Jane variant, for around $500 worth of raws, off another Facebook trade. That guy lived about half an hour from me so I asked him about meeting up for another trade...He ended up bring a few short boxes over my house and we did another trade; raws for raws.Like $400 or so. He got a few of my wall books, $50 or so books, and he ransacked my $5 and $10 convention boxes, made up a big stack. My convention boxes are priced around half of Overstreet/FMV so it works out for both parties. I'll do those kind of trades, all day long. Btw, this applies to anyone else (who is reputable) reading this thread, as well.  |
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Enelson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Follow up: @CopperAgeKids @kaptainmyke and a couple others called it...a 7.0...a super glossy, white pages with only one real defect 7.0 *womp womp  |
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| I wouldn't grade it. Keep it raw or press and sell as raw later on if the value keeps going up | ||
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Keep it as is for the time being. This is a book worth sitting on at the moment. | ||
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Homer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Enelson how much additional did you invest to get it shipped to cbcs optional pressing, graded and return shipped. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Enelson Still better than a kick in the face :/ Cover itself is still very nice. I've actually kept books with half the back cover missing etc just b/c it looks so good from the front that I figure I'll frame it and admire it for awhile at least  |
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Enelson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Hmmmmmm. What are the ROE? |
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Enelson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Homer let's just day I wasted money. I'll sell in 2030 and recoup my costs | ||
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