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Grading Help Needed

AF 15 Opinion Please6196

COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
2.5
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Collector Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user
Well missed the part where it's already been graded. Sorry
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Collector ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Steverogers11
Well missed the part where it's already been graded. Sorry

old cgc label- so its undergraded (I hope)...also no cleaning or pressing...
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by ozonetv
Howdy-

I was wondering if I could get an opinion if the torn corner automatically limits this to a certain grade - and if so, what is it. Otherwise the book is complete, great color, spine is ragged and theres some color breaks up top. Hasn't been pressed or cleaned.

I've seen so many 2.5 and 3.0 that look horrible with tape or detached cover and all bleached out...I'm wondering how an otherwise nice looking copy with a specific defect is judged.

Love to hear what you guys think ..


Hi Ozone,

If you want grade opinions, you really need big scans like this


(Click to Embiggen)





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Collector ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user
Just messaged you...very cool to see this!
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Well well well...
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Collector ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user
Well well well....what?
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Are you gonna show the grade or what


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Collector Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user
Ditto
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Collector BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
Im in at a 2.0 - 3.0
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
Are you gonna show the grade or what


I've seen it. It's 1.5 CR/OW
Sold for $5,994.12 on 4/12/15
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
Good work, Detective Ditch!
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Collector 50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user
The book looks much better than a 1.5.
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Collector 50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by MR_SigS
Good work, Detective Ditch!


Agreed. Nice work Ditch.
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Collector Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user
Then a nice looking 1.5 it is
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
I'm thinking "spine is ragged" might mean many spits? The bottom looks to be split above and below the staple.
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Collector Jimmers private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by 50AE_DE
The book looks much better than a 1.5.

Yeah,looks nicer than my 1.5.
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Collector ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks guys - a couple more notes to consider:

The high rez photos that Ditch posted are a bit deceiving...it doesn’t appear that way in person. The lighting really exposes all the defects. When you actually see the book it looks much nicer. The one with the hand is really how it looks.

It was slabbed in 2002- I think they recommend reslabbing it at a certain point. Not sure what that point is- I’ll have to look it up.

Anyway- So now you see the problem....estimates between 1.5 - 4.0 / old vs new label / archival case vs non-archival case - it’s really all over the place.

Thanks again for the help...I’ll try to decide what to do and I’ll post the results when I know... it could be weeks or years away. But in any case, I love the book and honored to have it in my collection.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by ozonetv
The lighting really exposes all the defects.


No offense, but, that is the exact point. Photos and lighting are key. I've spotted defects on comics in my storage lighting over a brightly lit sunlit photo under a window on a sunny day.
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Collector Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user
Yeah if u resubmit not likely going to get much more than 1.5 as before certainly not a 4.0. U less maybe PGX
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Collector ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user
I might not do anything - certainly in no rush.
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Collector Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user
Just enjoy it man. Great book
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Collector Homer private msg quote post Address this user
The book was certified in 2002, I would recommend getting graders notes before opening the holder and getting it re certified. There could be hidden flaws like internal page spine splits, margin pieces missing, which can bring a book down below good.
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Collector ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Steverogers11
Just enjoy it man. Great book

best advice in the thread!
I might not end up do anything at all just because I don't want to stop staring at it in disbelief.
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Collector Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user
Yeah man love man also
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Collector Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user
Congrats on owning a AF15! As an owner, I could honestly say I'd part with 90% of my stuff and just keep my AF15...A grail for me and my family for sure..Congrats!
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I get periodic requests from people wanting to buy mine, but it's not for sale.
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