AF 15 Opinion Please6196
Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
Howdy- I was wondering if I could get an opinion if the torn corner automatically limits this to a certain grade - and if so, what is it. Otherwise the book is complete, great color, spine is ragged and theres some color breaks up top. Hasn't been pressed or cleaned. I've seen so many 2.5 and 3.0 that look horrible with tape or detached cover and all bleached out...I'm wondering how an otherwise nice looking copy with a specific defect is judged. Love to hear what you guys think .. |
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Joined The Club | Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Great looking book. Any AF is | ||
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Collector | Cowabunga_Kyle private msg quote post Address this user | |
She looks good for 55 | ||
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COLLECTOR | Stu private msg quote post Address this user | |
Is it yours or are you looking to buy? | ||
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Collector | MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user | |
I think 3.5 for the corner. What CBCS or CGC would say, I couldn't guess. Wouldn't be surprised if it got higher, just because it's an AF15 :popcorn: | ||
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Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Stu she's mine. (at what point did she become a "she" :-) |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
2.5. The largest piece allowed missing from the front or back cover is usually 1/2" triangle or a 1/4" square. | ||
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Collector | gman private msg quote post Address this user | |
What a damn shame about the corner....but no chipping which is nice. Slab & sell. | ||
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Collector | GeeWiz private msg quote post Address this user | |
Congrats on your piece of history! Great book no matter what the grade | ||
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Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Hmm...are they talking about the hypotenuse - or is it a volume measurement? Does it matter if its an isosceles or scalene? Do they measure by the shortest or the longest leg? So many geometry-based questions this opens up. |
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Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by MR_SigS Thats what I thought originally, but now I've heard such a range - all the way down to a 1.5. I'm totally in the dark at this point. Thats why I posted.... |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Quoted from the Overstreet Guide to Grading Comics. |
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Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
ok - just so I understand - this would be a 2.5 or less? |
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Collector | Homer private msg quote post Address this user | |
If your book in the first post did not have the missing corner, I would rate it as a 3.5 mainly because the spine is rounding, additional creasing and it looks to be a lower spine split. With the additional defect of missing corner down to the 2.0-2.5 range as a max. | ||
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Collector | Homer private msg quote post Address this user | |
In general small missing corners are factored into the grade depending on severity. There are examples of torn remainder covers which do not go higher than 0.5 poor from CGC. | ||
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Collector | MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ozonetv I've seen an AF15 CGC 4.0 with a larger chunk missing than that. I didn't agree with it. Not sure what CBCS would do. Usually when giving an opinion in thread's like this, I say what I think the label will get, not what I think it actually is. |
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Collector | MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ozonetv This would probably get higher than 4.0 CGC's and CBCS's grading guidelines a largely a mystery. When I grade my books, I use Overstreet's guideline. |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ozonetv THAT book right there, having good eye appeal, a better spine and corners, but still a dust shadow, some chipping, and a "tape pull" corner that book could possibly get a 3.0-3.5 (but without seeing the back, of course.) |
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Collector | BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ozonetvBeing it would have a square corner if it was there, the 1/2" would apply to a right triangle. So the piece missing is well beyond that. |
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I'd say 2.5/3.0 nice book | ||
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Collector | CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ozonetv It is not as static as Mike suggests. I'd say this book is at a minimum, a 2.5 as is. Plenty of benefit to be had via dry cleaning and pressing...up to a 4.0, would not be out of the question. |
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Collector | CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Steverogers11 Agreed. |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
I have revised my guess now to a 3.0-4.0 Edit : never mind. 2.5 |
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Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
Heres another view (btw-its an old label cgc from 1999). I don't want to show the grade 'cause I don't want to influence you guys... just honest opinions here |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
2.5 | ||
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Joined The Club | Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Well missed the part where it's already been graded. Sorry | ||
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Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Steverogers11 old cgc label- so its undergraded (I hope)...also no cleaning or pressing... |
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Collector | Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ozonetv Hi Ozone, If you want grade opinions, you really need big scans like this (Click to Embiggen) |
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Collector | ozonetv private msg quote post Address this user | |
Just messaged you...very cool to see this! | ||
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