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| I really wanted to see THOR AND ROCKET meet up and having a conversation as they knew each other all along and everyone else wondering "WTF..." | ||
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| How was it that Iron Man (Tony) was dying coughing up on his own blood after fighting Thanos when he stabbed him with his own blade weapon, then he lived? Sure Strange offered Thanos the gem to spare Tony's life, but Thanos didn't heal Tony. Then a few scenes later Tony's fine (not hacking up blood looking like hes bout to go into shock and die) but able to heal or close off the wound (freeze?). Thats kinda lame IMO. | ||
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| Remember the scene on Titan where Thanos is battling Dr. Strange and he questions why Dr. Strange hadn't used his best weapon (the Time Stone). Well.....maybe he did, unnoticed to everyone else and this is the key to the one way Dr. Strange saw to defeat Thanos, otherwise, why would he have so easily surrendered it to Thanos??? And then after Thanos leaves, Dr. Strange tells Tony it's the "endgame" now. Something to this or a red herring? Thoughts! | ||
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| At the end of the movie, Strange let Tony know the truth right before he "poofed" into anti-matter that there was no way to defeat Thanos. (He lied to Tony to give false hope before the battle on Titan.?.) I think he surrendered his gem to Thanos because he knew it wouldn't matter one way or another. He probably didn't use it because he was hoping that Thanos wouldn't know where he had it hidden. |
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| I think whatever it is Dr. Strange did, somehow ties in with the Nick Fury scene and the upcoming Capt. Marvel movie and maybe even the Ant-Man movie. I don't think Dr. Strange necessarily lied; he found a way and had a plan that eventually snatches victory from the jaws of defeat, otherwise there's no point to the next movie. | ||
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| If he found a way and had a plan, I believe it died with him when he went poof. He never left (portal) he never told anyone anything different. He told Tony there was a 1 in 14 million+ chance they could defeat Thanos in the battle on Titan (Which he confessed before he died he lied, there was no chance in defeating Thanos.) When he used the gem, he probably seen that it was out of his hands and another hero(s) would be Thanos' downfall. Guess we shall see. |
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| Also, I think a 38 year old mystery has been solved, it was Thanos that erected the Georgia Guidestones. | ||
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| @Foghorn_Sam HAHAHAHA. Thanos and his adopted son, Ted Turner ! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Foghorn_Sam He gave up the stone, it’s not a trick. Without it Thanos wouldn’t have been able to reverse time and take the Mind Stone from vision. That said, I think it’s all a part of Stranges Plan, but no one knows what it is. This is still the 1 in 14+ Million chance they have. Dr Strange is a big picture guy hey probably saw that in the one scenario where they “win” he has to die so he sacrificed himself. |
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| His last words were this was then only way or something to that effect. That by itself supports the fact that this is still following the one scenario Strange saw where they win. | ||
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| Did anyone else notice in the beginning credits, it says "Marvel Stud10s". Instead of "studios". Is it some kind of clue, or just a "funny"? I read it as "Stud 10's" |
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| It’s their 10th year anniversary. Nothing more. iron man came out 10 years ago, 2008 | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak 10 years of the MCU |
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| Wow. How did I miss that? Oh, I know. I have been reading stories from the Marvel Comics Universe since 1963. Not being snarky. Trying to be funny.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by stanley1883 I believe he truly gave up the actual time stone. He used the time stone to see that they lost in every single scenario, but there was one scenario where losing was the key to victory. I believe he set them on that path from that moment on. In a way, I think it's an ironic nod to Robert Downey Jr.'s Sherlock Holmes deductive/precognitive talents as displayed in those movies. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Foghorn_Sam I agree with this. Except I doubt there was an intentional nod to Sherlock Holmes/RDJ. Ironic perhaps fits. But accidental or unintentional probably fits better. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak Still a useful plot device that either by accident or design, I instantly associated with the recent Sherlock Holmes movies, made more compelling by the fact it involved Robert Downey Jr., just with the tables turned a little bit. |
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Well, I think I wasted some money on Strange Tales 179  Doesn't look like buying that issue will pay off. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth Or when Thanos punched Steve Rogers directly in the face, yet Steve comes out from the bushes holding his left side. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Haha, yeah. I think his left side was from him running that long distance to fight since he hasn't been doing his daily workouts. |
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| Best movie box office opening of all time. We are gonna see every marvel character over time. Pretty easy to see how the dead will come back to life, Ditko in a cameo, draws Kirby, who steps off the page. Kirby and Ditko draw the dead heroes, who likewise step off the page. Then Kirby draws a Gauntlet disintegrator, which Howard the Duck uses to save the day Don’t know how you guys missed the clues! |
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| I think it's safe to say that Dr. Strange was the most important character in the movie. He saw a way to defeat Thanos and it required him to bargain for or save Tony Stark. Also, the heroes that survived are the ones that are most likely the biggest box office draw for the upcoming sequel. I bet that Black Panther's fate would have been altered if they'd been able to predict the success of his movie. It's interesting that Wong took an early detour as his assistance could have been critical and altered the outcome of the battle. I think the narration in the movie trailer reveals a lot. "In time, you will know what it's like to lose..." Check. "to feel that you are so desperately right, but fail just the same." Check "Dread it, run from it, but destiny still arrives. " Check. "... but this does put a smile on my face." Check. Hulk and the heroes running towards battle... utter BS. |
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| Don't overthink it fellas. Someone else will get the gauntlet one way or another, and that someone will reverse everything back. Whether it's Nebula like the Infinity Gauntlet series or someone else, and whether it goes back exactly the way it was or not (e.g., if they take the occasion to start changing out actors), those are the questions. | ||
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| Thought it was just ok. A lot of it was awesome, yes, but I’ve never been a big fan of Thanos. Everyone at the theatre I saw it at was either bummed out or perplexed. | ||
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| The scenes with Thanos really dragged after starting with an amped up beginning. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth No, I think he said there was only one way to defeat Thanos, period. Not "defeat Thanos in the battle on Titan." And I don't know what lie you are referring to ... what Dr. Strange did WAS "the only way" to defeat Thanos. Remember, it's not one CHANCE in 14 million. It's one SOLUTION out of 14 million possible combinations to try. And Strange saw that solution. I was going back and forth, on whether the 50% cull will be undone in Avengers 4. Morales could replace Parker in Homecoming 2; Shuri could be the next Black Panther (which would be awesome); Dr. Strange can be replaced with the next Sorcerer Supreme. The Guardians of the Galaxy is a little problematic, with only two of them left and Starlord gone. Not sure what the next movie could be, unless Starlord's genetic heritage somehow allows him to come back. But its a bold choice, to end 10 years of a single arc like that, with so many key characters dead and the Avengers defeated. But in the end, that won't stick. They WILL reverse it somehow. Foghorn_Sam said it: if they don't, then what's the point? Thanos did what he wanted to do, killed half the universe. He's done. Retired. The heroes dont have anything to stop in the next movie, without Thanos. But they do have one thing to undo. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Tedsaid Chadwick Boseman and Benedict Cumberbatch are too large of a draw to be replaced so soon. So I doubt that they will remain dead, as for Guardians, only Rockets left I thought, Gamora was obviously taken out and Starlord, Mantis, Drax and Groot dissolved. Though I’m assuming you are referring to Nebula as the second, which makes sense. Holland’s no going anywhere either, they’d set up an Ultimate universe or some transitions for Miles Morales. Marvel always sets up the next move, so any of the aforementioned characters have no heir apparent. One of the big 3 is gonna be the big sacrifice, Cap has the most “replacements” as Bucky or Falcon could succeed him, Iron Man doesn’t really have someone set up but I think he will “retire” rather than be killed and Thor could go, but again, I don’t know who would “replace” him. Ultimately, my opinion is Cap will likely die, and of the current dead, I’m really only concerned with Gamora, Scarlett Witch and Vision not coming back. Nebula could replace Gamora while Vision and Scarlett Witches story line seems to be at the end. Falcon, War Machine and Bucky are likely to come back. Though as I type, I realize War Machine could replace Iron Man, but marvel might want to retire Downey so they could conceivably call him back if they need a ratings boost? |
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| @Tedsaid If we gotta get technical: Dr. Strange: I went forward in time, to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict. Tony Stark: How many did you see? Dr. Strange: 14,000,605. Tony Stark: How many did we win? Dr. Strange: One... Dr. Strange says "Coming Conflict." They were on Titan at that moment and they knew Thanos was coming. This was the coming conflict he was running through his mind with his gem to see if they had a chance. One out of 14,000,605. But then again, he could have been talking about the entire conflict... But he never told anyone that he would be dead nor all the other super-heroes that would go poof. If he knew he was going to go poof, he also would have seen that Tony would have been left alive, therefore he would have told Tony about the ONE possible win and what he needed to do in order to make it happen. Just my opinion. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth I’m gonna play devils advocate here. He couldn’t tell Stark. If he told Stark, Stark might have tried to make it happen, where the one scenario where they win, has to happen organically. It’s like being told your future, if you know where you are going to end up, you will go out of your way to try and get there, and during that process you may make a wrong decision thinking that it’s the right one. That make sense or is that too out there? |
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