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Quote:Originally Posted by MR_SigS That works in theory. In practice 2 out of 3 buyers don’t leave feedback |
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| Wow - just finished with the thread up to here, I wish I could afford to get a beer but gotta work | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka That's STILL not a very fair assessment of this situation, given the evidence that has been presented. There's nothing stated here that would give anyone the impression that drchaos overbid on the book with the intention of returning it if it wasn't "upgradeable." And we only have the seller's word...who has a vested interest in the situation...that he "hasn't done anything to misrepresent his product." Those are leaps and an assumptions. Some of you folks aren't being very fair, here. And I say that as someone who has said the very same thing to drchaos in the past. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka You guys must not deal with eBay directly very much if you believe these things. Remember...it is ALSO eBay policy that sellers aren't supposed to be able to call in and demand to have negative feedback removed, and yet it happens all the time, completely defeating the purpose of feedback. eBay, following its own rules and policies...? Please. They have money to make. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown The only person who isn't being fair here is you. I agree with the OP more than I do with you. You have gone out of your way to take digs at my integrity. I may be new to selling comics on eBay, but I am not the idiot you have been speaking to me as. The fact that he wants to return the book, although I am not happy about it, is beyond my control. I'm going to have to take this hit. But you, and your arrogant, venerable attitude and the way you talk about how eBay transactions should transpire and what you expect from sellers shows me that you are just an entitled human being and I am so happy right now that I am not associated with you or anyone who thinks like you. The best thing to come out of this whole ordeal is knowing I don't have to ever associate with you. OP, you'll get your refund, you're obviously going on my blocked buyer's list, but no hard feelings man. It's done. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Oh - do - I almost have my own hotline. But happy for you to share the policy which requires buyers to provide pictures Forgot to add. eBay feedback policy actually states that if the feedback violates their policy you can contact them to have it removed. But I am sure you were referring to non-violating feedback |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| @Masochism Fair enough, you will go on my blocked list as well. No hard feelings on this end either. | ||
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| If the book is ungraded, and additional pictures are provided on request and indeed show the same book I don't get how the buyer has any right to ask for a refund in this scenario.. Yes I understand ebay policy, but I don't understand those who believe the buyer should return it after they had the info at hand to make a decision..and sat in it for 20 days. If the seller has to pay for return post and receive a book that is very likely in worse condition then when they sent it that's just wrong imo. |
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| We all have had to take a hit on ebay if you spend enough time selling and buying. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Wait just a minute. I never said that was my assessment of the situation. I simply stated that this is something that 'can' happen. Notice all those 'cans' up there? I don't appreciate anyone putting words in my mouth. It helps to read things as written, not as you wish it was written so you can prove a point, or be argumentative. The fact that something like this can happen is pretty discouraging to the casual seller/collector. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith These guys are sharks, and pro comic dealers. He got the better of me and that's fine. Fool me once... I'm an artist here in Florida and I did pretty well at Collective Con last month so I bought two copies of New Mutants 98 to flip and keep up my winning streak. I paired each comic up with a piece of artwork and one guy was wicked happy and then there's this guy. I won't make the mistake of sharing info on my book sales listings on here ever again. Lesson learned. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wraith The seller will receive the book in the same condition as I did. If the book has flaws that can not be seen in the pictures and the seller fails to disclose those flaws in writing there is no reason a buyer should be forced to keep the book. The book has a stain inside the front cover. It was not in any of the pictures and it was not disclosed in writing by the buyer. Why is it more important to you that I took my time to return the book than the fact that it was sold with undisclosed flaws? |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| The seller has accepted the return. Everything will be packed securely and sent back tomorrow. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown I do not think the seller intentionally misrepresented the book. I see no evidence of that. The seller has a Web site, under the same text as his cbcs and eBay handle. If the seller had intentionally misrepresented the book, he more than likely would not have posted in this thread, bringing negative attention to his name/brand. That said, as the OP noted, there is a small stain on the inside of the FC....so yes, the book was misrepresented. Judging by the scans alone, it appears to be around a 9.0/9.2. Likely a 9.0. Both companies hammer books for stains;it would max out at an 8.0, even if pressed.Maybe an 8.5. Going from a book that may catch a 9.0/9.2, to an 8.0/8.5...that makes the buy in cost of $229 (or $239, whichever it was) wholly untenable, if buying the book for pressing/grading for a blue or gold label. That stain has a big effect on the value of the book. The book is still an easy $239 book...maybe $275-$300; raw listed as an VF 8.0 via BIN...to a collector. That said,the book is being returned for a refund. I do not see any point in discussing the what it's or should have's any further, as it is being returned for a refund. |
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| In summary (in no particular order) DrChaos is too busy to go through his purchases in a timely manner Masochism is an eBay newbie conditionfreak is the Father of this forum who tries to reconcile the kids Ganosoth has no problem going to the line maybe crossing it a bit when making claims against USPS because of how they loose his packages CopperAgeKids has a 2 cents for everything (always appreciated) Shrewbeer thinks that eBay inspects every claim manually Squack is a betting man Darkga is not a man of his own advise Mr_Sigs believes all buyers leave feedback DocBrown is just - DocBrown Jesse_O and all moderators are doing a much better job than across the street And Poka likes to have fun and stir up a little bit Anyone I missed? Honorable Additions: Kaptainmyke’s is the cause of this thread for arbitrarily grading the books in the original thread (tks Marximus) Marximus has humour Watcher has the best matching name among us all Kyoung_1974 - will eat anywhere as long as the food is great |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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It's kaptainmyke's fault for arbitrarily grading the books in the original thread.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Actually my policy JUST changed after that raw Hulk 181 auction that ended last week. The first buyer flaked. The second buyer didn't respond in a timely manner, so I had to sell it to the third buyer. Now (according to this thread) I have to wait and see if the third buyer decides he wants to return it or not before I spend the $1,000.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Marximus Good one  |
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@poka Incredible ! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Marximus Haha. Quote: Originally Posted by Darkga That is reason #1 why I would never sell a $1000 book, without having it slabbed first. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Apologies for missing out but I second Marximus |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Well...as the name states...I just sat and watched quietly. sort of the silent minority...and always forgotten |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Ha Ha....Wait, What? Did you just call me old? |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| @conditionfreak While his quote implied that you are wise, it seems he did call you old. | ||
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Why I otta............! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos No I called you a Father in line with the name of the thread - just the facts  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Just the facts,huh? Are you going on the record with that statement, sir? * This is the only meme I saw under a "LA Confidential just the fact meme" Google search....dunno what is up with that "haz" spelling.Oh well...great movie, anyway.  |
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| And yeah...btw, I think everyone who regularly posts on this board is relatively "old". I'm in my early 40's. And my body is feeling all of the abuse it took in my 20's and 30's through working and weight lifting injuries, accumulated years ago.  |
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