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@KYoung_1974 If there is, in fact, a stain, I wouldn't know. I bought it from a dealer and I actually never took it out of the sleeve EXCEPT to scan it as per buyer's request.

Thought this was worth quoting...

Most definitely worth quoting!

Seller: Is evidently new to the program, and intentional or not, misrepresented the book. Seller mans-up to responsibility. Learning experience.

Buyer: Receives a HOT KEY book, yet waits 20 days to inspect/file complaint, or inspected upon arrival and waits 20 days to file complaint. BULLSHIT!

Anybody who receives a NM98 is going to inspect it upon arrival, and within minutes is going to begin spotting major discrepancies,.. followed by a click of the SEND button.

Both parties are at fault.

PERIOD!

lol

THAT'S an even handed analysis of the situation.

The way some of you gentlemen see things is quite amazing.

Let's break it down:

1. A seller doesn't even bother to take a book out of "the sleeve" before listing it for sale on eBay. That's strike 1, and it's a biggie.

2. The buyer starts a thread here about his experience, but keeps the seller completely anonymous.

3. The seller...because he has a chip on his shoulder...decides to OUT HIMSELF and try to defend himself and his actions, and in the course of the discussion, takes criticism personally, rather than constructively, and lashes out in a petulant, childish manner. A sample quote:

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Originally Posted by Masochism
I won't make the mistake of sharing info on my book sales listings on here ever again. Lesson learned.

This is shit teenagers who are pissed off say. This isn't professionalism. This isn't a commitment to excellence. This is petulant foot stomping.

4. The seller says things like: "Waking up to a negative PayPal balance is not something I'm prepared to deal with with much enthusiasm when I represented my items as best I could", but then acknowledges that he didn't even take the book out of the "sleeve."

But you don't see the contradiction here...?

How can you "represent an item as best you could" when you don't even examine the item?

Did he REALLY represent an item as BEST he could...? Or did he just negligently slap up a few pictures and hope for the best...?

5. drchaos didn't "wait" 20 days...he examined it when he could. eBay's STANDARD PRACTICE is 30 days (it's why top-rated sellers MUST provide a 30 day return policy.) AMAZON'S standard practice is 30 days, which is increased to Jan 31st (92 days at that point!) starting November 1st of each year. But you, Pre-Coder, state that drchaos did something bad by "waiting 20 days" to file a complaint, even saying that that is "BULLSHIT!"

6. Also incredibly, you, Pre-Coder, state that the seller "manned up" to his responsibility...sure, after he was pilloried for his behavior, and rightly so. Is that really "manning up", or is that merely recognizing a no-win situation for him?

No doubt, the seller is going to come and hurl more insults at me for pointing out these clear facts. That's fine, and to be expected. The seller STILL takes no ownership of the situation, and continues to act as if he is the aggrieved party, here. Also to be expected, but some of you are enabling and encouraging this behavior, which means the seller learns nothing valuable from the experience. How is it that this guy gets all sorts of benefit of the doubt from you, but drchaos gets none?

There's such a thing as civil disagreement. There's nothing wrong with challenging something and someone. But there IS something wrong with not being even-handed, rational, and logical, instead reacting emotionally, like several of you have done, with all the "BULLSHITS", false equivalences, disingenuous replies, the serial "likes" of disparaging comments, and so on.

FFS, people.

Had this happened on the CGC board, the seller would be blasted, and rightly so, for not taking ownership and responsibility for this problem. Here, though...FFS.

There aren't enough smhs.

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	Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Quote: Originally Posted by MR_SigS Quote: Originally Posted by Masochism @KYoung_1974 If there is, in fact, a stain, I wouldn't know. I bought it from a dealer and I actually never took it out of the sleeve EXCEPT to scan it as per buyer's request. smh Damn, this could have been a "torn page, popped staple, writing on interior, missing centerfold" situation. And it would have resolved quickly and easily had the buyer provided pictures, as it would have here. Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Just because a person can't and doesn't grade, does not absolve him of all responsibility for the condition of an item. My mom knows nothing about grading, but she would know enough to see that there's a stain on the cover and note it. You’re still assuming there is actually a stain. No evidence has been provided. How is it that I am in the position of defending drchaos, while you are suggesting that he might be lying...? So very odd. I have no reason to doubt drchaos at this time.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos Quote: Originally Posted by doog Not getting the angst here. Most of us are just hobbyists selling for profit on EBay. Occasionally a sale goes bad, and you get the book back. You are out some time, some shipping maybe, but you get the book back. The hobby is so profitable it comes out in the wash long term. Surprised about the blocking talk, the next deal would likely go without a hitch, like 99+% do. And if you are cool about returns, which are mandatory on EBay anyway, there should be no hard feelings. This! Also, it is a two way street. While the buyer is made whole when a book is returned their time is wasted as well. In the end there are a lot of great people involved in this hobby which is why there are hundreds of great transactions for every on where something goes wrong in my experience. And people aren't judged for the mistakes they make, but how they react to them.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by kaptainmyke I can't tell you how many books raw I've bought that didn't end up to be my liking. I just suck it up and say "oh well" and move on. That's me personally. And as a related note, I bought a NM98, NM87, and NM1 in a package deal for $468. The NM98 had a color breaking crease on lower outer front corner. Oh well. also bought NYX 1-3 for $300 and a coupon. I was not happy with the condition of NYX3 due to 3 tiny color flakes on front cover. Moved on. Oh well. I bought a Amazing Spider-man lot of 300 comics, that included a raw newsstand ASM300. Looks fantastic! I pressed it out myself! However, there's one small problem: fingerprints on back cover. None of these books were ever fully disclosed by clearly lit and concise photos. I moved on. What can you do? I dunno...return them? Try to work something out with the seller? Not take crummy eBay transactions on the chin? Call me crazy?
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. 27.13K	27.13K kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Wow I can't believe this but I am in total agreement with DocBrown for once.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Watcher Boys...I think we're losing sight of what's important here. I may despise Corporate America , but we're all just a couple of guys who collect comics (for fun or profit). Corporate America provides jobs for millions of Americans, and allows us to have a standard of living that not even the most powerful man in the 17th century...Louis XIV...had. Why would you despise them...? Have problems with, sure, but despise...?
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	Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos @Pre_Coder I did not wait 20 days to inspect the book. After I received it and looked it over I waited a couple weeks before I got around to asking for the return because I thought it might be a pain in the ass (hint - I was right). It's been my experience in life that you usually find whatever it is you are looking for. What I get from the sellers post, and I very well may be wrong, is that he was more upset over the timing of this. Yes you are well within your rights and eBay policy, but in hindsight it seems like this whole thing would have gone a lot smoother had you reacted in a more timely fashion. Instead you worried about the hassle, procrastinated, and surprise! got a huge hassle. To paraphrase Top Gun, this was a victory for you, but I think we can use this thread as an example of what not to do (on both sides).
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	Quote: Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Wow I can't believe this but I am in total agreement with DocBrown for once. Hey, a concession! I'll effing take it! Hooray!!
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. 30.4K	30.4K drchaos private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by KYoung_1974 Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos @Pre_Coder I did not wait 20 days to inspect the book. After I received it and looked it over I waited a couple weeks before I got around to asking for the return because I thought it might be a pain in the ass (hint - I was right). It's been my experience in life that you usually find whatever it is you are looking for. What I get from the sellers post, and I very well may be wrong, is that he was more upset over the timing of this. Yes you are well within your rights and eBay policy, but in hindsight it seems like this whole thing would have gone a lot smoother had you reacted in a more timely fashion. Instead you worried about the hassle, procrastinated, and surprise! got a huge hassle. To paraphrase Top Gun, this was a victory for you, but I think we can use this thread as an example of what not to do (on both sides). Read the seller responses again. He was not prepared to take returns at any time for any reason. While the timing was important to some of the other participants in this thread (believe me they hit me over the head for it) it was not the primary reason the seller was upset.
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	I'll take it a step further and do what some might call shameless ass-kissing: Do you know why we never see threads about how kaptainmyke effed up an eBay transaction? Because he takes his shit seriously. How about shrewbeer? Anybody see any threads about how sb screwed someone over? No? Why not? Because he takes his shit seriously. I don't remember seeing a "drchaos sold me something and it was shit!" thread...why? Because he takes his shit seriously. These guys take their shit seriously, regardless of their personal opinions, and treat customers how they want to be treated. So, yeah, when it comes to this particular transaction, who am I going to make an impartial judgment in favor of...? The guy who has a proven track record of excellence in customer service and has invested a considerable amount of time and effort here...? Or the noob...literally AND figuratively...with the chip on his shoulder, who hurls insults and accusations at people simply for pointing out the facts, and refuses to take any real responsibility for himself and his actions...? Not hard to guess.
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Getting back to this thread. Us other users suggested the buyer to post up scans of the comic book so we can compare the scans that are already here on the Forums of the comic book that was sold. It seems we never got those scans. Further, upon reading more as the story unfolded it wasnt until page #4 that the buyer said something about the "Stain."

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Originally Posted by drchaos
Additionally on the interior cover (under the black of domino's costume) there is what appears to be a slight water stain.

My question now is.... Why wait till page #4 to finally tell us all it had a stain on the inside of the cover? If it was me, I would have told the seller right from the start about the water spot on page #1.

It seems you didn't even think of that "Stain" until KYoung_1974 purposed that question which was before your stain response on page #4.
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(Were pages ripped out, big spills on the inside).

This in itself looks suspicious.

EDIT: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm looking too deep into it. Wont be the first time.

7 years ago

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	We all know there is no stain, the stain is fabricated to solidify his stunt. It wasn't mentioned in the opened case on eBay and wasn't mentioned on here until he was pressed about it.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Masochism We all know there is no stain, the stain is fabricated to solidify his stunt. It wasn't mentioned in the opened case on eBay and wasn't mentioned on here until he was pressed about it. Sincere question: How would you know if you never bothered to inspect the book out of the bag?
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. 30.4K	30.4K drchaos private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Masochism We all know there is no stain, the stain is fabricated to solidify his stunt. It wasn't mentioned in the opened case on eBay and wasn't mentioned on here until he was pressed about it. Why are you still beating this dear horse? When you get the book back you can look inside the front cover (for the first time) and see it for yourself instead of making assumptions and posting falsehoods that will serve you make you look foolish.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. 30.4K	30.4K drchaos private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@GanaSoth Now it seems you are the one headbutting me. What don't you quit while you are behind?
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	anyway..i was deflecting since this forum is so heated...dislike is fine since despise is a bit harsh.
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	I was stating the obvious. You didn't claim stains until after another user brought it up. If one the main reasons for the return was the "Stain," then you should have told him about it from the start. Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos When you get the book back you can look inside the front cover (for the first time) and see it for yourself instead of making assumptions and posting falsehoods that will serve you make you look foolish. Now who is to say this stain wasn't placed there after the fact to justify the return or what seller says "buyers remorse"? This can go on and on. While I'm behind? Behind in what way? The fact that I bring up key evidence now that its come to light? I'm not trying to fight or headbutt with anyone, my question was obvious & clear. Why wait till page #4 to bring up the stain if it was the major concern for the return? Why wait till another user asked if there was water damage inside the book before actually saying it had water damage?
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Masochism We all know there is no stain, the stain is fabricated to solidify his stunt. It wasn't mentioned in the opened case on eBay and wasn't mentioned on here until he was pressed about it.
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	250+ posts in two days, for this thread. 158 posts in the "WTB thread", in 6 months. Me thinks many of us are here for the butthurt and not the comics. Just sayin'.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. 30.4K	30.4K drchaos private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	@GanaSoth You advocated mail fraud because you "hate those guys". Not the best thing for your reputation. I started the thread by saying I was returning the book because I had looked it over and it was not as good as it looked in the pictures. I did not specify what was wrong with the book because I did not feel it was necessary at the start of the thread. It had also been about a week since I looked at the book. After many posts by the seller and others I pulled the book out to look it over so I could remember exactly what was wrong with it. It was then that I posted about the stain (as well as the corners, edges, and spine ticks) because I had the book in hand at that time. The book is all the evidence anyone needs. Once the seller gets it back you will not hear him denying its faults any longer. Those of us who have sold many books on ebay went through the same learning curve the seller is going through now. He has learned a valuable lesson and if he is lucky he will get more for the book than I paid for it and will have gotten this lesson for free.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Quote: Originally Posted by MR_SigS Quote: Originally Posted by Masochism @KYoung_1974 If there is, in fact, a stain, I wouldn't know. I bought it from a dealer and I actually never took it out of the sleeve EXCEPT to scan it as per buyer's request. smh Damn, this could have been a "torn page, popped staple, writing on interior, missing centerfold" situation. And it would have resolved quickly and easily had the buyer provided pictures, as it would have here. Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Just because a person can't and doesn't grade, does not absolve him of all responsibility for the condition of an item. My mom knows nothing about grading, but she would know enough to see that there's a stain on the cover and note it. You’re still assuming there is actually a stain. No evidence has been provided. How is it that I am in the position of defending drchaos, while you are suggesting that he might be lying...? So very odd. I have no reason to doubt drchaos at this time. To my knowledge, DrChaos is a good guy; he is even recommended here by other users I have much respect for. The reason I doubt, is just as others have said. Pulling the trigger on a not as described claim before contacting the seller, not stating what was wrong until pressed for pages of text about it, and not posting pics.... after starting this thread in the first place. As the saying goes... pics or it didnt happen.
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Originally Posted by Masochism
We all know there is no stain, the stain is fabricated to solidify his stunt. It wasn't mentioned in the opened case on eBay and wasn't mentioned on here until he was pressed about it.

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@KYoung_1974 If there is, in fact, a stain, I wouldn't know. I bought it from a dealer and I actually never took it out of the sleeve EXCEPT to scan it as per buyer's request.

I'm not sure how much more clear this needs to get.

If the seller didn't inspect the book before listing it...in fact, readily admits that he didn't...then how can the seller possibly, under any circumstance, make any claims about the book's condition, outside of what he could see of the front cover?

And if that's the case...how can he possibly make the claim that "we all know there is no stain" (wonder who the "we" he's referring to is)...?

The buyer can literally make up anything he wants at this point, and since the seller admits he didn't even bother to examine the item, he's SOL.

Toldja so. Given enough rope, they'll hang themselves. If you people would consider what I say, and not just dismiss it because you don't like the way it's said, this thread would have been a whole lot shorter.

7 years ago

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	@shrewbeer I sent the seller a PM here before filing the claim. He ignored my PM and deliberately chose not to contact me.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos @GanaSoth You advocated mail fraud because you "hate those guys". Not the best thing for your reputation. AND? Screw my Post Office! Another thing. DONT THROW ME IN THE SPOTLIGHT HERE! IM NOT THE ONE THATS WINDOW SHOPPING AND STEPPING ALL OVER SELLERS ON EBAY! Here is a story I just wrote and your the main character: Hey, let me buy a comic book from a seller on eBay. Once it arrives, I'll check to see if I can press and dry clean it, or hey, lets get a copy I already own since mines in VF/NM condition and swap it for one thats in NM condition and return mine in the place of the better conditioned one. I'll say it must have gotten damaged in shipping or even better.... it wasn't as described! HA HA. Oh yeeeeeaaaahhhhh.... rubs hands together greedily while hunched over laptop on eBay Then I will wait for a bout a month then hit the seller with a return! Maybe during that time the seller was down on his luck and had to use his money reserves on lets say a medical emergency. GREAT! Now hes zero negative amount in PayPal and if I'm lucky the medical need would have been dire, and hes got no cash in the bank to cover the PayPal charge back so it then becomes NEGATIVE with more over draft charges! BWHAHAHAHAHA! All I gotta do it play the victim to eBay, those bleeding heart-tards will give me what I want and I come out on top! -The End PS: I just gotta be sneaky!
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Originally Posted by Masochism

The laughable notion that I am to sit on transaction payments until a buyer decides to say "thank you" is so asinine that I can barely believe I'm addressing it.

Says the guy who sells hot keys without looking at them.

Is this why you can't see it from the buyer's POV? You haven't found problems with your raw purchases because you don't look?

Not sure how drchaos waiting 20 days (of a 30 day return policy) is seen as worse than that.

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Originally Posted by Masochism

If you want a chuckle, picture this scene: I get the book back, and I take it back to the dealer I bought it from at the convention a month ago and me telling him "There's a stain behind the cover that I couldn't see when I bought the book. I'd like a refund" and the bewildered, yet amused grin on his face as he politely told me to go &*#@ myself

LOL That is funny. Then he says, "What do you think this is? eBay?" And he'd be right.

It's the policy of the place you decided to sell- Their house, their rules. If you don't like the rules (assuming you looked), don't use them. Find a place that ends the transaction the day the item is delivered.

7 years ago

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The reason I doubt, is just as others have said. Pulling the trigger on a not as described claim before contacting the seller,

He didn't "pull the trigger on a not as described claim before contacting the seller." He did it after he hadn't heard back from him by the next day.

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Originally Posted by shrewbeer
not stating what was wrong until pressed for pages of text about it, and not posting pics.... after starting this thread in the first place.

As the saying goes... pics or it didnt happen.

In other words, you're suggesting that drchaos could have made it up.

Maybe he is. But that's what "benefit of the doubt" is for. I give you more benefit of the doubt because I have dealt with you for the past two years, and vice versa.

As far as "not stating what was wrong until pressed for pages of text about it"...that's not what I see at all. That's like the question "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" Just because someone doesn't lay out the entire case in the first post doesn't therefore mean they had to be pressed for it. Just because he didn't respond to you...and Lord knows, I've not responded to you purposely before...doesn't mean he's hiding anything.

You guys routinely bitch and moan about posts that are "walls of texts", anyways.

But the clincher is that the seller gave up any and all right to challenge drchaos' claim by readily confessing that he never inspected the book in the first place.

7 years ago

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	Quote: Originally Posted by GanaSoth Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos @GanaSoth You advocated mail fraud because you "hate those guys". Not the best thing for your reputation. AND? Screw my Post Office! Another thing. DONT THROW ME IN THE SPOTLIGHT HERE! IM NOT THE ONE THATS WINDOW SHOPPING AND STEPPING ALL OVER SELLERS ON EBAY! Here is a story I just wrote and your the main character: Hey, let me buy a comic book from a seller on eBay. Once it arrives, I'll check to see if I can press and dry clean it, or hey, lets get a copy I already own since mines in VF/NM condition and swap it for one thats in NM condition and return mine in the place of the better conditioned one. I'll say it must have gotten damaged in shipping or even better.... it wasn't as described! HA HA. Oh yeeeeeaaaahhhhh.... rubs hands together greedily while hunched over laptop on eBay Then I will wait for a bout a month then hit the seller with a return! Maybe during that time the seller was down on his luck and had to use his money reserves on lets say a medical emergency. GREAT! Now hes zero negative amount in PayPal and if I'm lucky the medical need would have been dire, and hes got no cash in the bank to cover the PayPal charge back so it then becomes NEGATIVE with more over draft charges! BWHAHAHAHAHA! All I gotta do it play the victim to eBay, those bleeding heart-tards will give me what I want and I come out on top! -The End This has just jumped the shark into super-awesome territory.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by MR_SigS Quote: Originally Posted by Masochism If you want a chuckle, picture this scene: I get the book back, and I take it back to the dealer I bought it from at the convention a month ago and me telling him "There's a stain behind the cover that I couldn't see when I bought the book. I'd like a refund" and the bewildered, yet amused grin on his face as he politely told me to go LOL That is funny. Then he says, "What do you think this is? eBay?" And he'd be right. ZZZZING!
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	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by MR_SigS Quote: Originally Posted by Masochism If you want a chuckle, picture this scene: I get the book back, and I take it back to the dealer I bought it from at the convention a month ago and me telling him "There's a stain behind the cover that I couldn't see when I bought the book. I'd like a refund" and the bewildered, yet amused grin on his face as he politely told me to go LOL That is funny. Then he says, "What do you think this is? eBay?" And he'd be right. ZZZZING! HAHAHA actually, that is funny.
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