Action Comics #1 - 35g Pure Silver Foil6137
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I'm not quite sure how to feel about this. Is CGC just cashing in on a gimmick or is this a legitimate piece of comic book... art (I guess you can call it)? |
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| I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. But if CBCS ever tries a gimmick like this ... I'll blow up. | ||
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| it's all about the $$ | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O That's how I was leaning. |
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| Once these get bought up, watch out for gold and platinum to follow, forcing collectors to try and keep up. | ||
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| Hey guys, I'm legitimately curious as to what you guys dislike about this offering? I actually think its pretty unique and kind of a cool collectible. Sure, its a little on the gimmicky side but I still think this is a pretty unique collectible and fits especially well into a slab-collectors collection. Seriously interested in why you guys feel poorly about CGC trying something like this? EDIT: Here are the links for those that don't know exactly what this is: CGC Press Release: https://www.cgccomics.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=6548 NZ Mint Product: https://www.nzmint.com/coin-collections/action-comics-number-1-35g-pure-silver-foil?nav=5931 |
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| if it's a replica of a cover-only shouldn't it get a "CVR" instead of a 10? | ||
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| As I am also a coin collector it’s hysterical to to NGC’s sister company use “coin language” on their comic label. Early releases and .999 fine silver should be for coins only. It’s definitely a money grab. Is it difficult to see the future of comic grading carrying an early releases label in the future? And early releases label in the coin world is garnered by submitting your coin for grading within the first 30 days of the release of the coin by the mint. If this happens to comics, I’m out. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite Its a piece of actual silver and it is getting graded on a comic book grading scale that translates into coin grading scale (70pt grading scale converting to 0-10.0 grading scale) |
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| I don't know what you guys are so upset about. This offering is based on two very solid economic principles: 1) A fool and his money are soon parted 2) A sucker is born every minute. |
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| I'd rather have a chunk of solid silver without a picture and without it being "foil". Definitely without a CGC case around it. | ||
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| oh god we have to buy 10 of them and stick them under our mattresses! | ||
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| It stops being a "cool collectible" and becomes a money grabbing gimmick when they treat it like a comic book. According to the NZ Mint site, this already comes in a holder. Quote: Originally Posted by NZ Mint ad To "grade" a sheet of silver foil with printing on it is ludicrous!!! I hope someone tears a corner of one and submits it to CGC just to see if they actually knock the grade down!!! This whole concept is messed up!! There are no interior pages, no back cover, and it comes in an acrylic holder!!! This is just a money grab catered to CGC fanboys who have more money then sense!!! There. I said it. I guess I lied when I said I'd keep quiet. But this is a new low for CGC. At least their previous gimmicks involved real comics!!! And honestly, I have to wonder why they are doing this. Is CBCS making such an impact on them that they have to resort to gimmicks now? I can remember a couple of years ago how CGC newsletters were full of "new number of submissions at XX con" reports. It's been a while since I've seen them say that. And they are PROS at blowing their own horn! 'nuff said. I need to go listen to some meditation music and drink some hot green tea before my blood pressure gets too high!!! j/k LOL And I mean no disrespect if you consider yourself a "CGC fanboy". It's just that I don't see anyone else being remotely interested in this besides huge CGC fans. |
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| My understanding is that they were grading it based on a common coin grading scale (70pt scale) converted to comic grading (10pt scale) for the sake of being similar to slabbed comic grades: https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading/grading-scale/ So my guess is that the majority of them will be in the 9.8-10.0 range since they are coming directly from the mint and most coins coming directly from the mint earn a 68-70 |
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Quote:Originally Posted by RyanHicks So they aren't even using comic grading guidelines? Then who the heck are grading these???? So, let's see if I got this straight. 1) NZ Mint makes a collectible with silver foil to celebrate Superman's 80th anniversary. 2) It comes in an acrylic holder. 3) You can have this foil commemorative graded by a sister company of CGC's. Because obviously CGC graders aren't qualified for grading coins and such. At least I hope they aren't) Or, perhaps they have an "in-house coin expert. Regardless, it is NOT graded by comic book standards. 4) CGC, for a special price, will slab this foil sheet with a silver label. In summary, a gimmick for the diehard CGC fan. |
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| They could have at least put the art credits on the label. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by TimBildhauser LOL!!!! |
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| Well, here are my thoughts. I probably won't buy one. But if I do, it will have to already be "graded" and encapsulated. I WOULD probably buy one in gold. I think it is a cool collectible. much like the same thing as the .999 silver and colored paper currency that are around. There is a market for these. And that is what commerce is all about. I think the more "choices" the better, when it applies to just about anything. Yes, it is a gimmick item. But so are foil covers, variants, die-cut, etc. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditiofreak They are still comics. THIS is not a comic, and that is my issue with it. And I know, I'm the one with the problem. I would never buy one, but that's just me. I would consider the regular NZ Mint one, but not one in a CGC (or even in a CBCS) slab. And yes, I'd be even MORE upset if it was CBCS doing this. I've come to expect this type of stuff from CGC. |
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| Single pages or parts of covers are also encapsulated by both companies. That has always irked me. They are not comic books. They are pieces or parts of comic books. I'm betting both companies would encapsulate a two inch square with ".10 cents" printed on it, from a golden age comic book. I GUESS you could read it. |
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@Jesse_O what do you think of collectibles like these (I'm legitimately curious, not trying to egg you on or anything):  I definitely think there are pretty serious collectors that would be into this kind of thing. And since CGC is a sister company to a coin grading company, it makes perfect sense to me. I think most people who know me know I am definitely not a CGC fanboy; however, one of the greatest things about CBCS coming onto the scene is that it disrupted CGC's monopoly and forces both companies to innovate and compete which is always beneficial to the end consumer. While these foils are a little on the gimmicky side, I do think its kind of a unique collectible that may appeal to more than just comic fans (coin/money collectors as well) and I can't blame them for trying new things (that's what we all wanted isn't it?) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by RyanHicks According to the press release, they are being graded on CGC's 10-point scale, not grading it by the NGC standard and converting Quote: Originally Posted by CGC Press Release |
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| @RyanHicks I think those are cool!!! I've got some silver commemorative coins myself. None of them are graded or comic related, but I like them. That coin is graded by NGC, as it should be. If NGC starts slabbing comics, then I'll have an issue with them!! Stick to what you know. Dance with the woman you brought to the party. Sleep in your own bed. etc, etc.... @conditionfreak single pages, covers, etc all started out as comics. When they get slabbed, it's more about preservation and authenticating (yes value plays a part in there as well). But again, this Action #1 tribute was NEVER, in any sense, shape, way or form, a comic book!!! @dielinfinite That's what I thought. I'm still hoping someone tears a corner of one and sends it in just to see what grade they get. |
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| Just wait until they get SS in blood. By Stan Lee even. Then we will really have a thread to sink our teeth into. As or right now, it is simple. Don't buy into it if you don't like it. Next problem please.  |
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| @RyanHicks That Black Panther coin looks cool. | ||
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| Not just Action #1 2018 STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE - PREMIUM SILVER FOIL - CGC 10 GEM MINT FIRST RELEASE https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F152947966822 | ||
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| I don’t get it. An incomplete “comic” should not be graded as a comic and getting a 10. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by RyanHicks It's not incomplete. Because it is NOT a comic book. Plain and simple. |
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