Storage/Preservation question6003
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I hid some copies under my basement stairs. They all got ruined. They were in bags and boards and slid in manela envelopes. I figured I would stash them away for a fun find in the future. It was not a fun find. I was especially pissed about the 3 copies of Punisher #1 that got ruined. | ||
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
The page saying Cedar is bad suggest you use sealed plastic containers. They will also have off-gassing as the plastic breaks down. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips Ruined how? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogioplease pm detailed images of maps,with landmark details and footnotes.Just cause,you know,I like maps..... |
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Whatever you do DO NOT put mothballs in your comic boxes or storage area. You will NEVER get rid of the chemical smell that clings to your comics. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by JimmersThey were falling apart and almost moldy looking. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips That's a seriously damp basement. |
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Redshade They are also real tiny and difficult to snip off of the moths. I've never actually smelled moth balls, but I'm sure they stink. |
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![]() ![]() Although I would imagine no commercially sold box is ideal, I bought these plastic ones after having a cardboard one break on me. It holds about 20 grades books. Not water proof, but will survive a slight spill or splash. I have a sense of smell problem in that it is severely sensitive. This emits no real smell. Assembly is like a cardboard banker box from Staples. All in all I am very satisfied. Purchased from bags unlimited. Correction. The box has some smell. The lid not as much |
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Plastics break down, so the smell would increase over time and off-gassing might take several years before it affected your comics. | ||
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Cardboard magazine short boxes FTW. They are not archival, but I am pretty sure you could buy/find Archival boxes somewhere. Regular short box mag boxes are not Archival, but certainly would break fown slower than plastic boxes; which I would think would actually emit some kind of off gassing, from the jump. So would cardboard boxes, but it would be much less stronger, and cardboard is a wood product to begin with. As are comics. Keep wood with wood,so to speak, not wood with plastic. Just replace the cardboard boxes every few years or so.At around $3 for a short mag box, that seems doable to me. I would not be concerned about off gassing from cardboard boxes over a relatively short period of time (3 years or so) but with plastic boxes, off gassing could be an issue, in that time frame. As long as the books are stored in Gerber sealed Mylite2's & Full Backs, and stored in the proper temperature/humidity range out of sunlight, in cardboard short boxes...IMO that is all you need for short term (3 or so years) storage. Using archival acid free tape on the flaps would be a move to make IMO. But if you really want to go all out,use Archival tape and Archival boxes. |
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The comics I have in cardboard boxes arent really important to me. Only the graded stuff will be put in these plastic boxes. (The sterilite containers i mentioned earlier in thread got too heavy to move around.) The items mentioned in copperagekids reply seem to only pertain to regular comics. Aside from graded cardboard boxes I didn't see any graded comics supplies. Although I must say, things are significantly different than the 90s. I had no idea the advances they have come up with. I think I'm going to stick with the plastic boxes I just bought. It has handle holes so its defintely not air tight and sealed. I would imagine that will help with offgassing. Also, if X51 is correct, the off gassing shouldn't be a huge issue for a couple of years. |
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Talk about smells. I have these plastic folders that I use to keep my classes organized. They have dividers and I insert manila folders for different assignments, syllabus, tests etc. They smell like plastic ass everytime I open them up. | ||
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
Brian green snips. You know what that means right? Skip school so you dont get exposed to the toxic smells so much. ![]() |
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Speaking of toxic smells. I recently volunteered to collect petitions against fracking in MI.I teach an energy audit class and not too long ago, I was looking for some supplemental material and started doing research on fracking. IMO, It has to be the greatest human destruction that man is doing to this planet since the start of the industrial revolution. One of the most eye opening documentaries that I would recommend is Gas Land by Josh Fox. This is the first event that I have felt strongly enough about to want to collect petitions for. Maybe I will start a thread called "Fracking and Comics". I want to keep it environmental and not political. However, I know they are very much connected. By the way for comic storage, I use short boxes with E. Gerber Mylite2 and M4 with half backs and full backs backing boards. |
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I got some EC Horror books that have awful acidic odors emitting from them. Gross. | ||
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
@kaptainmyke - Do you think alkaline or buffered paper would help? | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmykeI have an old Tarzan comic book from the 1950's that smells nasty. I keep it away from the other books. It does present fairly well probably in 5.5 range.I would like to find a product that will remove the smell. |
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I've heard that putting your books in a closed bag with cat litter in it will remove the odor. I BELIEVE they suggested to leave it closed for 4 weeks. I've never tried it because I haven't had any really obnoxious ones ... yet. | ||
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
Not sure how effective it would be compared to kitty litter, but baking soda is cheap and they have the ones that go in fridge that minimizes the mess.... | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Jesse_O Well we have the new kitten "Kirby" so I will do an experiment with her litter and let you guys know how it went. | ||
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Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips Make sure it isn't used litter!!! LOL And it would be interesting to know if it works. Please let us know if you do it and what the results are. |
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I had a magazine that reeked of moth balls. I put it in a sealed rubber container with cat litter, baking soda, and rice. It took almost a year, to reduce the smell to a tolerable level. You can still smell it, but it used to be so strong it would make your eyes water. | ||
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xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips If you haven't seen it, you should check out Deadpool #40 (from 2012). |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
@xkonk I will do that. Thanks | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRicketts I don't know about odors, but rice absorbs moisture. Edit: Probably a good combination with the other ingredients, and duration of storage time. |
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Regarding odors, some people have reported that 2-3 sheets of MicroChamber paper inserted at intervals inside the comic will help remove odors. I have just started to use this paper on some of my older comics. One thing I definitely noticed is that the Gerber fullbacks will retain/absorb the smell from the comic book with which it is stored. So, I guess it is possible that simply storing a smelly comic in a Mylite with a Gerber fullback will do *something* to cut down on the odor. |
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