Storage/Preservation question6003
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JMR private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Hello. Most of my books are raw, stored in Gerber Mylites with Gerber fullbacks, in a Gerber acid-free box. As for my slabbed comics, I have about ten of the most valuable stored in Gerber Golden Age Mylite sleeves, then placed horizontally in Post Office priority mail boxes with a layer of bubble wrap between them, then placed in a plastic storage tote with locking cover. My other graded comics are stored in Gerber sleeves, then placed upright in the standard CGC cardboard box for graded comics. I am looking for opinions as to which is the better method. Should I rotate them? Is it bad to store them horizontally in a plastic tote? Suggestions welcome. Thanks | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by JMR Interested in everyones thoughts too. Maybe even displays and shelving for short/long boxes? |
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| I have my graded books in a plastic totes that has handle locks to seal the totes. One thing I do because I'm paranoid is put in those silica packs. My thoughts are, if air doesn't circulate, there's a possibility of humidity build up. I don't know if that is logical, but for 10 bux at Amazon it buys a huge amount of silica packs. I figure better safe than sorry... |
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| I used to store them in my gun safe but after reading an article about the fireproofing possibly reacting with the staples, I stopped doing that and now just store them in cardboard boxes by hot flips. I store the boxes in a dark closet, that I only go into a few times per year. And every time I visit I feel like Indiana Jones discovering some lost treasure 🤩 | ||
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Do not place comics in mylites and fullbacks and then stack horizontally. You will get press lines imprinted deep onto the front covers of all your books over time from the piece of tape used to close the flap, and the flap will cause a line across front cover as well. | ||
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tonnage71 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I store all my slabbed books vertically, in sleeves, and in those specially made CGC sized storage boxes (essentially a bit more heavy duty short box). Seems to work fine. | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @kaptainmyke +1. | ||
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Wraith private msg quote post Address this user | |
| i store vertically in short boxes, bagged and boarded and recently put my key issues into top loaders for extra protection (hopefully prevent any bottom corner wear when i flip through the boxes as i do from time to time) used to have a few bagged and boarded in a couple of shoeboxes - the ones at the bottom showed stress in the spine after 10-15 years in that state. |
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| Thanks for all the responses so far. Just to clarify, the topic for horizontal storage is for graded books only. My thought is that it will reduce possibility of damage due to movement of comic in the slab, and also the downward stress on the spine and bottom edge if stored flat. I have no proof of this; it's just a theory. I would never store my other comics that way. Other than that, I guess my main concern is whether standing them vertically in a cardboard cgc box in my closet is the "safer" environment than inside a layer of bubble wrap in a closed plastic container (tote). | ||
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| I keep them upright on a table in cardboard graded boxes without lids so I can easily flip through them when I want to feel smug about my (probably fairly average) pile of 200 graded so far. I put the best 50 or so covers on the wall of my comic book room and house as art, along with a bunch of ungraded covers. That way I can be even more smug, and why hide coolness? The Louvre doesn’t hide what they consider cool either. | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by doogBe careful of that light. |
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Do not stack slabs either horizontally. They could crack. | ||
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doog private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips I have wondered if slabbed books have been around long enough for a sunlight faded 9.8 to hit the market? Uncracked it would still be a 9.8, kinda? So far the older slabs have all looked normal to me, those I have seen. |
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Wraith private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by doog Stick some uv film on the and keep them out of direct sunlight |
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doog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Thanks. I’ll do the U V. Already in poor natural light rooms in constantly raining NW. an ounce of prevention is worthy | ||
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CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I do not think it is a good idea to put slabs inside of a sealed Tupper ware container, desiccant or not. Paper is an organic substance, it should be exposed to some actual air. That is why CBCS and CGC slabs are not waterproof; the lack of being waterproof is not a flaw . It is a needed benefit for long term paper health. Put them vertically in magazine short boxes, make or buy cedar shelves and store them away from sunlight. Paper needs to breathe to minimize oxidation & off gassing, as much as is possible. If you look this up, in archival research journals, that is basically what paper archivists say. Edit: Do not use cedar. I was going by memory. Refer to the thread Mr.Sigs linked to a few posts under this one. |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @CopperAgeKids Tell me more about the cedar shelving. I can't remember the benefits of cedar. | ||
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Here's what I know, but I'm pasting this from Google. "Both cedar and cypress wood contain natural oils and chemicals such as thujone that deter bugs. Cedar chips repel, kill or can inhibit insects such as termites, cockroaches, cloth-eating moths, carpet beetles and certain ants, such as ordorous and Argentine." |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by X51That's what I thought. Thanks @X51 |
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Has anyone ever tried a Kallax shelf from ikea for graded books? I know the measurements are incredibly tight. clickable text |
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MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips Some research- Last post, click the spoiler content. |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @MR_SigS Pretty good read. | ||
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CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yeah, good stuff @MrSigs. | ||
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| I sprinkle cedar shavings for hamsters and rats all over my comic book room.Smells nice,but hides the little brown pellets and gets stuck in my socks.I think the cats have started peeing in the corner as well. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jimmers I bury mine in the ground in a chest, minimum depth below the frost line. I have a map to each one that I've buried, locations marked with a big X. |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I hid some copies under my basement stairs. They all got ruined. They were in bags and boards and slid in manela envelopes. I figured I would stash them away for a fun find in the future. It was not a fun find. I was especially pissed about the 3 copies of Punisher #1 that got ruined. | ||
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X51 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The page saying Cedar is bad suggest you use sealed plastic containers. They will also have off-gassing as the plastic breaks down. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnips Ruined how? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Drogioplease pm detailed images of maps,with landmark details and footnotes.Just cause,you know,I like maps..... |
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| Whatever you do DO NOT put mothballs in your comic boxes or storage area. You will NEVER get rid of the chemical smell that clings to your comics. | ||
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